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Dumb question of the week time

  • 07-01-2011 3:09pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭


    Its that time again, dumb question of the week time :)

    I'm pretty sure the answer to this question is No but I said I better ask.

    Is it legal/possible to purchase a new barrel set for a shotgun? The reason I ask is that I want to be able to fire cartridges that need a barrel to be magnum treated. I know its legal in other country's....but this is Ireland :)

    Cheers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭ormondprop


    i'm not sure but if its the same as a rifle you'll need a seperate license for the new barrel

    i'm sure somebody else will know for certain what the answer is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭deerhunter1


    Arcto wrote: »
    Its that time again, dumb question of the week time :)

    I'm pretty sure the answer to this question is No but I said I better ask.

    Is it legal/possible to purchase a new barrel set for a shotgun? The reason I ask is that I want to be able to fire cartridges that need a barrel to be magnum treated. I know its legal in other country's....but this is Ireland :)

    Cheers.

    I dont think it is illegal to own 2nd barrel, you can buy shotguns that comes with extra set of barrels no prob.

    Remember;) no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid answer.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,072 ✭✭✭clivej


    I stand to be corrected but for a rifle you do not need a license for another barrel if the calibre is the same as is on the license o
    For the rifle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭ormondprop


    clivej wrote: »
    I stand to be corrected but for a rifle you do not need a license for another barrel if the calibre is the same as is on the license o
    For the rifle
    thanks for that, would both barrels have to have the same serial number aswell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭mayfly36


    not sure about the regulations in the south, but here in the north you need to hand the old barrel in if your replacing with a new one, and the new serial "which will be different from the original barrel serial" has to registered on your permit. It would be like a 1 on 1 off scenario


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    Your certificate covers you to have parts and components for a particular firearm ( the one on the cert ) so I dare say that a barrel fitting your gun with an identical serial number stamped or engraved into it will be fine. Just to be sure check with your Garda station. Or even better, ring the Phoenix Park folks.

    And if it's a repair/replacement job and the serial nr on the new barrels is different I suppose a modification on the cert could be a possibilty, again, check first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Arcto


    Cheers for the answers. Im going down to my local gun smith later today to buy more ammo so Ill ask him what he thinks as well.

    Ta!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭FISMA


    mayfly36 wrote: »
    not sure about the regulations in the south, but here in the north you need to hand the old barrel in if your replacing with a new one, and the new serial "which will be different from the original barrel serial" has to registered on your permit. It would be like a 1 on 1 off scenario

    Mayfly,
    I don't think I have ever seen a serial number on a barrel. Who does this? In my experience the serial number has always gone on the receiver.

    Buying a receiver is the restricted part - same as buying a gun. All the rest are just parts.

    But, I'm no solicitor, thank God!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭mayfly36


    serial munber is put on by the manufacturer, i have a benelli and the serial number of the firearm is on the barrel, the original barrel rusted after afew weeks, this was a new gun. I got a replacement from benelli italy, but i had to give the old barrel back when i got the new one, the serials were different so i had to send my permit for variation because the numbers were different, as far as i know you cant get s replacement barrel with the same serial number AS THE OLD according to bennelli and GMK. But i think you can get an ammendment on your permit for an extra barrel but you need the serial of the new to be put on your permit as well, now dont quote me on this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭FISMA


    mayfly36 wrote: »
    serial munber is put on by the manufacturer, i have a benelli and the serial number of the firearm is on the barrel, the original barrel rusted after afew weeks, this was a new gun. I got a replacement from benelli italy, but i had to give the old barrel back when i got the new one, the serials were different so i had to send my permit for variation because the numbers were different, as far as i know you cant get s replacement barrel with the same serial number AS THE OLD according to bennelli and GMK. But i think you can get an ammendment on your permit for an extra barrel but you need the serial of the new to be put on your permit as well, now dont quote me on this.

    Is this true of all firearms in the North?

    Has anyone in the south numbers on their barrel?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,134 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    For shotguns you CAN buy replacement barrells in the same calibre no problem,and are over the minimum length of 61 cms [24ins].

    HOWEVER it is recommedable to put the reciver number on them.As I was orderd to do this once by AGS,however read instructions carefuly/milage may vary/type of advice here,it will depend what your local lads might want.Just do it anyway,and be belt and braces.

    Any gunsmith worth their name will have a set of punches to do this job for you.If you are handy enough with a Dremel tool you can do this yourself.Just use a very fine inscribing bit.

    For rifles it is pretty much the same.PROVIDED it is the same calibre and of legal minimum length.
    If it is a different calibre,you must have a liscense for that calibre.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Arcto


    Cheers guys, gunsmith told me pretty much the same.

    I had actually mistaken what he said on the phone. Even though my barrel was not magnum treated I could use 42 gram 70mm shells, which I just got back from doing. First shot hit a rabbit at just over 40 odd yards! Extra recoil was a bit of a shock!

    Price wasn't bad to for 10 @ €7 Remington Sure Fire size 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭ormondprop


    FISMA wrote: »
    Is this true of all firearms in the North?

    Has anyone in the south numbers on their barrel?
    my shotgun has seriel number on barrels, on the forestock (only visible when its taken off) and action
    think my fathers beretta is similar, i can check later


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭johnner1


    FISMA wrote: »
    Is this true of all firearms in the North?

    Has anyone in the south numbers on their barrel?

    i have an ou by baikal made in ussr and it has a sn. on all parts including forend.


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