Quality of Physio's

PDCAT

Hi Folks

Just have a question for all you experienced guys out there.

Due to injury, i have started to go to a physio. So far i have two sessions with her and one more scheduled for tomorrow.
She has diagnosed the issue as a muscle issue due to lack of stretches, way i run possibly. So far she has been performing massage (sore i may add) but my leg has not improved at all.

Seems very business orientated and very interested in getting me to make more appointments.

I have my own doubts whether it is muscular issue or not. Anyway this is my first foray into visiting physio's.

Do people who use them more than i find that there are good ones and bad ones out there?

Or are they generally correct in their diagnosis?

Thanks

Cartman78

Finding a good physio isn't easy. It's worth shopping around and checking out recommendations from any runners that you know.

I've also found that it helps if your physio is a runner themselves....as well as the obvious physical side of things they will also have a greater appreciation for the 'mental' approach of a runner

Condo131

Cartman78 wrote: »

It's worth shopping around and checking out recommendations from any runners that you know.

I agree 100%. As in any occupation, there are good ones, not so good ones and bad ones. Word of mouth is best.

If you're not getting any improvement after two or three sessions, there's something wrong. A few physios remind me of the insurance ad on telly - gypsy curse etc. :mad:

BornToRun88

PDCAT wrote: »

Hi Folks

Just have a question for all you experienced guys out there.

Due to injury, i have started to go to a physio. So far i have two sessions with her and one more scheduled for tomorrow.
She has diagnosed the issue as a muscle issue due to lack of stretches, way i run possibly. So far she has been performing massage (sore i may add) but my leg has not improved at all.

Seems very business orientated and very interested in getting me to make more appointments.

I have my own doubts whether it is muscular issue or not. Anyway this is my first foray into visiting physio's.

Do people who use them more than i find that there are good ones and bad ones out there?

Or are they generally correct in their diagnosis?

Thanks

Im not a mod but asking for injury advice or what physio to see is against the forum rules. This thread will be locked when a mod sets eyes on it.

The Bad Pawn

BornToRun88 wrote: »

Im not a mod .

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The OP is not asking for medical advice or for a 'good' Physio to be named and bad one shamed. He's just asking for peoples experiences and insights - thats what this forum is about.

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OP - Personally I agree with the others there are some great Physios out there and some not so great ones. Word of mouth is usually your best friend and i'd make sure you see a sports specific physio for sports injuries.

Good luck with your search!

griffin100

Physio's are keen to get you to make repeat visits. I know this as a user and through my job. They will often find other things that you / they will need to 'work on'.

There should be progression through the visits, hopefully towards a resolution of the injury. If each session is exactly the same as the last one and there is no improvement then perhaps that physio is not for you. There are good and bad ones, but someone who understands your sport is important (my current physion had never heard of IM but runs so understands my running injury:)).

I have a foot inujury that sounds similar to yours and have had two visits with one more schedueled. I however have seen a big improvement and in fact my physio is pushing me harder with regard to my running than I would have done myself. Perhaps you need a more sports orientated physio.

BornToRun88

The Bad Pawn wrote: »

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The OP is not asking for medical advice or for a 'good' Physio to be named and bad one shamed. He's just asking for peoples experiences and insights - thats what this forum is about.

Im just reaffirming the forum rules. A mod happens to be online and so far hasn't locked it so maybe the chosen words of the OP aren't against the forum rules.

The Bad Pawn wrote: »

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I'll take my horse and head back to politics.ie. Why deal with the angry type like yourself.

The Bad Pawn

Maybe I was a bit harsh with the 'horse thing'
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"Im just reaffirming the forum rules. A mod happens to be online and so far hasn't locked it so maybe the chosen words of the OP aren't against the forum rules."

But your post did sound distinctly kill-joy like;)

ecoli

BornToRun88 wrote: »

Im just reaffirming the forum rules. A mod happens to be online and so far hasn't locked it so maybe the chosen words of the OP aren't against the forum rules.



I'll take my horse and head back to politics.ie. Why deal with the angry type with yourself.

MOD: The medical advice part of the charter is to prevent people from diagnosing injuries and suggesting treatment. This is to make sure that people are not taking the word of someone (even if it is well intentioned) and ending up worse. From a boards point of view this could create legal difficulties

The OP here is looking for feedback regarding to physios as a whole which i do not feel is in breach of the charter

Hope that clears things up a bit

poconnor16

Cartman78 wrote: »

Finding a good physio isn't easy. It's worth shopping around and checking out recommendations from any runners that you know.

I've also found that it helps if your physio is a runner themselves....as well as the obvious physical side of things they will also have a greater appreciation for the 'mental' approach of a runner

+1 on this. I had an injury that was caused and aggravated by martial arts. First physio didn't do much to help as I dont think they understood the cause of the injury. Went to a guy that practiced martial arts and had more experience in treating the injury - 3 visits, done.

I saw improvement from my first visit; not a huge amount but some relief at best. Also, the treatment I received was very sore so I think that is nothing to worry about. So long as it helps obviously.

PDCAT

Thanks guys for the feedback.

I wasn't actually asking for medical advice.

Basically as it's my first visit to a physio i was unsure whether to take their diagnosis as gospel as the injury i have to me doesn't seem to be muscular related as the physio has suggested.

It has been niggling at me since beginning of December, i have reduced my running to handful of attempts since then and have pulled out of Waterford Half, Dungarvan 10, not entered other races due to this.
Getting a bit frustrated by lack of progress and have not seen any improvement in the first two sessions i have been there.

My intention was to find out, if standard of physio service you get varies as in most other professions. Thats all.

Again guys, thanks for the feedback.

I have another appointment with physio tomorrow. If i see no improvement after this, i know the name of a good physio that runners in my locality use and i have seen his name on boards.ie before.
Rang him and he'll give me appointment in a couple of days. if i want.

poconnor16

Best of luck with it, nothing worse I know...

RacoonQueen

OP where do you live? If we knew where you lived we might be able to give you tips for where to go.

Some physio's will go straight into private practice upon graduation and will have little experience. That doesn't mean they're no good though. The guys in Sports Med Ireland on Kildare Street come highly recommended as do the folk at Functional Training I've used a few different physios in private practice and have never found them overly impressive. I prefer to go for a sports massage.

Edit: in private practice physio's don't tend to get a basic wage they get paid a % of the clients they see. So they want you to keep coming back.

BornToRun88

The Bad Pawn wrote: »

Maybe I was a bit harsh with the 'horse thing'
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"Im just reaffirming the forum rules. A mod happens to be online and so far hasn't locked it so maybe the chosen words of the OP aren't against the forum rules."

But your post did sound distinctly kill-joy like;)

Glad we got that cleared up.

PDCAT

RacoonQueen wrote: »

OP where do you live? If we knew where you lived we might be able to give you tips for where to go.

Some physio's will go straight into private practice upon graduation and will have little experience. That doesn't mean they're no good though. The guys in Sports Med Ireland on Kildare Street come highly recommended as do the folk at Functional Training I've used a few different physios in private practice and have never found them overly impressive. I prefer to go for a sports massage.

Edit: in private practice physio's don't tend to get a basic wage they get paid a % of the clients they see. So they want you to keep coming back.

Hi Raccoon Queen

I'm from Kilkenny and have been seeing a private clinic in the locality past couple of weeks.

Heard of a very good physio, named previously here on boards and i know a lot of runners use him. He's from Carlow (Andy Geoghegan). Phoned him and he'll meet within a couple of days if required.
Will go to current physio today, outline my concerns and take it from there.

Ar Strae

A little confused as to whether we can name Physios or not but assuming we can I'd really recommend Aidan Woods @ Pearse St Physio for any Dubs out there.

http://www.pearsestreetphysio.com/about_us.asp

Similarly to what someone had said before I really recommend going to a physio who runs. In my case I was coming from an injury incurred fell running and Aidan is a fell runner, ex-National Duathlon Champion. and according to his bio which I'm just looking through now, captain of the Under 23 Cross COuntry Team (a long time ago ;-)) etc etc..

He's a really good guy..but of course the usual caveats apply, ya don't do the exercises, ya don't get better ;-)

And obviously I don't get any cash for recommending him. Just because I'd looked for a good physio for a while makes me feel like when I FIND one I should shout about it!

Hope ya get sorted soon

Ronan

tunguska

I think the best bet to go see a Physio who is also a runner. Mark Keneally out in Cellbridge is a top guy.

Roddy23

A little confused as to whether we can name Physios or not but assuming we can I'd really recommend Aidan Woods @ Pearse St Physio for any Dubs out there.

http://www.pearsestreetphysio.com/about_us.asp

Similarly to what someone had said before I really recommend going to a physio who runs. In my case I was coming from an injury incurred fell running and Aidan is a fell runner, ex-National Duathlon Champion. and according to his bio which I'm just looking through now, captain of the Under 23 Cross COuntry Team (a long time ago ;-)) etc etc..

He's a really good guy..but of course the usual caveats apply, ya don't do the exercises, ya don't get better ;-)

And obviously I don't get any cash for recommending him. Just because I'd looked for a good physio for a while makes me feel like when I FIND one I should shout about it!

Hope ya get sorted soon

Ronan

Been to Aidan on and off the last year due to injuries. He's a top man and I'd recommend him to anyone.

Hard Worker

PDCAT wrote: »

I'm from Kilkenny and have been seeing a private clinic in the locality past couple of weeks.

Heard of a very good physio, named previously here on boards and i know a lot of runners use him. He's from Carlow (Andy Geoghegan). Phoned him and he'll meet within a couple of days if required.
Will go to current physio today, outline my concerns and take it from there.

As you live in Kilkenny, Anthony Geoghegan is definitely your best bet. I have sent a lot of athletes to him with excellent results. He is a top class master athlete, martial arts expert and former county hurler.

asimonov

Hard Worker wrote: »

As you live in Kilkenny, Anthony Geoghegan is definitely your best bet. I have sent a lot of athletes to him with excellent results. He is a top class master athlete, martial arts expert and former county hurler.

+1 on this. He will have you back running quickly, a genuinely gifted guy. Go early if you can, there is often a queue.

myflipflops

I don't think you necessarily have to go and see a physio who is a runner himself (although I would lean towards it) but it is a must to go to one with lots of experience in treating sports people in general.

The last guy i saw was the physio for the West Indies cricket team and he was different class. Diagnosed me, treated me and gave me effective back up exercises all at a bar! He has been treating actual sports peolpe for 10 years so has pretty much seen it all. That experience is key. The average phyios working lacks that experience and knowledge.

I've heard good things about Mark Kenneally and that place on Kildare street which I believe a number of our elite distance runners go to.