FA CUP 3rd Round: Manchester Utd v Liverpool (Match Thread) Mod Warning #214 - READ!

tommyhaas

Trilla wrote: »

Who got man of the match on UTV?

Berbatov got it. Should have been either Giggs or Kelly tho IMO, maybe Reina

stumpypeeps

lordgoat wrote: »

What kind of brothel do you go to that they throw condoms around?

That's just nasty.


Also puzzled by how berb got man of the match, should have been Raf i think.

Very odd decision.

What on earth has happened to Fletcher?

stumpypeeps

flahavaj wrote: »

I have a lot to be thankful for. I support United.

Amen to that.

The Muppet

BERBA wrote: »

since 1999 i reckon:pac:

How's the accountancy going?

BERBA

The Muppet wrote: »

How's the accountancy going?

il let you know as soon as robbie keane has left the building for 7m;)

Pro. F

The Muppet wrote: »

Well done.;)

Those two posts support each other.

It's actually kind of complicated because I fully believe that the laws would have to be changed (tightened up) if video refs came in.

d22ontour

tommyhaas wrote: »

Berbatov got it. Should have been either Giggs or Kelly tho IMO, maybe Reina

I thought the two right fulls had great games, Kenny should be looking to play him a bit more.

The Muppet

Pro. F wrote: »

Those two posts support each other.

It's actually kind of complicated because I fully believe that the laws would have to be changed (tightened up) if video refs came in.

I read your earlier post as saying the decision was wrong and would have been reversed if video evidence was in play. You indicated Berba was dishonest.

Pro. F

The Muppet wrote: »

I read your earlier post as saying the decision was wrong and would have been reversed if video evidence was in play.

I think these are my two posts on the subject: 1 and 2

I do think it would have been not a penalty if there was video reffing. But I also strongly believe that video reffing could not be brought in without a change to the letter of the law.

I think that by the spirit of the law it wasn't a penalty but by the letter of the law it was. Video technology could bring the two closer together imo. And also take all the crazy impossible pressure off the referees.

The Muppet

Pro. F wrote: »

I think these are my two posts on the subject: 1 and 2

I do think it would have been not a penalty if there was video reffing. But I also strongly believe that video reffing could not be brought in without a change to the letter of the law.

I think that by the spirit of the law it wasn't a penalty but by the letter of the law it was. Video technology could bring the two closer together imo. And also take all the crazy impossible pressure off the referees.

Too bizarre for me mate, I understand what you are saying but it will never be implemeted nor should it.

srfc19

What about the laws against simulation?? No matter what way you look at it, it was never ever a pen.

Pro. F

srfc19 wrote: »

What about the laws against simulation?? No matter what way you look at it, it was never ever a pen.

The law against simulation doesn't say that it's not a penalty. I've checked.

No matter what way you look at it, if you read the laws it was a penalty.

RasTa

Just back from this game, 17 pages in and I've had enough. Please show me what contact Agger made with the ball. Anyone who thinks it wasn't a red needs their head examined. I'm very surprised we didn't win by more tbh.

citytillidie

IvySlayer wrote: »

Skrtel held back Evans I think. I'll watch it on MOTD.

Yea and it happens lots in games everywhere with out been punished by the refs.

They should start punishing it with pens to get it out of the game

Jazzy

happened to read this without my ignore fliter on retarded.

anyone got a gif of the foul for the penalty?

RasTa

Just watched the highlights on ITV, stonewall peno on Giggs as well from Jonjo.

citytillidie

RasTa wrote: »

Just watched the highlights on ITV, stonewall peno on Giggs as well from Jonjo.

How when Jonjo won the ball 1st

Revolution9

RasTa wrote: »

Just watched the highlights on ITV, stonewall peno on Giggs as well from Jonjo.

Not a chance.
Challenge on Evans perhaps, never Giggs

Nalz

Revolution9 wrote: »

Not a chance.
Challenge on Evans perhaps, never Giggs

Don't mean to be a scald, but has anyone got a link/vid to this Evans challenge?

I remember looking at the Giggs tackle in the replay and thinking it wasn't a pen. in realtime I was screaming for one. But after pen & Stevie G getting the marching orders it would have taking a lot to get another pen (queue the smart comments!).

Dave!

Revolution9 wrote: »

Not a chance.
Challenge on Evans perhaps, never Giggs

A-HA! You walked into that one!

Finally a concession, we can move on now

Revolution9

Trilla wrote: »

Don't mean to be a scald, but has anyone got a link/vid to this Evans challenge?

I remember looking at the Giggs tackle in the replay and thinking it wasn't a pen. in realtime I was screaming for one. But after pen & Stevie G getting the marching orders it would have taking a lot to get another pen (queue the smart comments!).

Sorry I don't have a link but my reaction was much the same to the Giggs-Shelvey incident. In real-time it looked a foul but the replay was conclusive, it wasn't.

citytillidie

Trilla wrote: »

Don't mean to be a scald, but has anyone got a link/vid to this Evans challenge?

I remember looking at the Giggs tackle in the replay and thinking it wasn't a pen. in realtime I was screaming for one. But after pen & Stevie G getting the marching orders it would have taking a lot to get another pen (queue the smart comments!).

Have you tried ITV.com or U.TV they might have highlights up on their sights if you can access them

Can you access this http://www.itv.com/sport/football/facup/matchhighlights/

Nalz

citytillidie wrote: »

Have you tried ITV.com or U.TV they might have highlights up on their sights if you can access them

Can you access this http://www.itv.com/sport/football/facup/matchhighlights/

Nope, but thanks anyways

monkey9

RasTa wrote: »

Just watched the highlights on ITV, stonewall peno on Giggs as well from Jonjo.

Never a peno. Shelvey won the ball.

LuckyLloyd

spockety wrote: »

Nothing any united fan says will take away from my happiness with that display from Liverpool, delighted with the performance.

Well done on your win, but as far as Liverpool and our fans go, you just don't get it. But that's ok.

The only Liverpool player I was disappointed with today was Torres. The rest dug in despite the added artificial challenges placed before them and gave it a go.

I would disagree with Dalglish taking off Meireiles, but he was spot on to sub Torres when he did. I thought we set up well and played some good stuff between the penalty and sending off. Solid.

Also, our fans were immense. Great belt of YNWA towards the end.

dfx-

Pro. F wrote: »

Whether contact was made or not is not important.
Whether Berb dived or not does not change it from being a penalty.

if a player commits any
of the following seven offences in a manner considered by the referee to be
careless, reckless or using excessive force

• kicks or attempts to kick an opponent
• trips or attempts to trip an opponent
• jumps at an opponent
• charges an opponent
• strikes or attempts to strike an opponent
• pushes an opponent
• tackles an opponent
• holds an opponent
• spits at an opponent
• handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own
penalty area)

Note considered by the referee, not considered by the laws. Webb thinks there is an offence there. There isn't. There is no use in quoting the laws of the game, it doesn't change a thing. It is still open to the interpretation of the individual. Webb gets it wrong.

Life would be so much easier if United fans just admitted they got lucky.

Boskowski

Just looking in here by chance...

Lads get it over with.
It was a penalty and he didn't dive.
I imagine no one denies the red card was 100% justified?

jank

Soft Peno but a definite red. Gerrard has been doing that **** for years but he gets a red card for once! United should have pressed on and won by a handy margin. The united of old would have but this team isnt as good..

jank

No fan of Untied fans in general but this **** belongs to the last millennium.

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/disgraceful-liverpool-fans-chanting-munich-during-manchester-united-loss-8114291/

Jazzy

jank wrote: »

No fan of Untied fans in general but this **** belongs to the last millennium.

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/disgraceful-liverpool-fans-chanting-munich-during-manchester-united-loss-8114291/

they should get videos of idiots mouthing "hillsborough" or whatever at anfield to even the score. then both sets of supporters will be able to laugh in a fair and equal way at idiots