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Are there lots of black people in Ireland and is there generally a lot of racism?

  • 06-01-2011 4:43am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 20 Themanbear


    How does Irish society deal with race issues? Is there alot of racism? Are there alot of ethnic minorities living in the country?

    I'm curious about this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭Cook my sock


    they took our jobs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭CrazyBiscuit


    and our women.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    It's the same as in every other country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭mawk


    The largest immigrant population in Ireland by a country mile are British people. more than all the other immigrant populations totaled ive heard.

    they have traditionally been treated with an awful lot of goodwill and are never the butt of a single joke, as I understand it. We are very nice people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,366 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    and our socks.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 Themanbear


    Well aren't you guys just a riot >_<


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Keno 92 wrote: »
    and our socks.
    So that's where they've all gone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    You know there's a lot more to racism that just black people getting offended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    I dpn't care how many black people there are, as long as i can have a go at them feckin greeks.

    They invented gayness!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,202 ✭✭✭amacca


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    You know there's a lot more to racism that just black people getting offended.

    Indeed, its not being done properly if that is the only end result:eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 Themanbear


    Either all of you guys are trolling me or Ireland is a scary place o.O


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,202 ✭✭✭amacca


    Themanbear wrote: »
    Either all of you guys are trolling me or Ireland is a scary place o.O

    You mistakenly assume the two are mutually exclusive.


    to answer you're question...I personally don't think people in Ireland are any more racist or intolerant than any other country I've visited.

    the usual mix of malcontents, tolerant people, psychopaths, activists etc you find everywhere.


    And I don't know if there are more ethnic minorities living in Ireland compared to other countries.....I suspect there are less per head of population than somewhere like the UK, France countries like that with colonies etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    and our women.

    Naturally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,222 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    My own experience as a white British person is that I occasionally hear Irish people slagging "immigrants", in conversation with me, with no obvious irony.

    On the rare occasion I bother challenging the contradiction directly, I'm told that they're not talking about me because "you're one of us/the same as us".

    I'd half a mind to get some business cards printed out for an Oliver Cromwell Appreciation Society Of The British Isles And Former Colonic Territories, with a link to a website (ciníochtuilli.ie ?) explaining in detail how fúcking stupid they are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 Themanbear


    So a black guy walking down the street isnt going to get stared at like he's an alien or expected to burst out into a freestyle rap?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    I'm assuming your not Irish , are possibly black and you are possibly going to be visiting / moving here soon.


    1st of all, after hours is where everyone takes the piss , its completely standard for a lot of replies to be troll like.

    2nd of all, no there is not very many black people in Ireland, in Dublin however there is and black people are quite common.

    There are very few Irish black people though but that's changing. The majority of black people around Dublin tend to come from various African countries.

    As for racism , you may get different reports but I generally think you would be hard pressed to find people who are out right racist, ie have a pure hatred and look down apon another person due to the colour of their skin.

    What's more common however is some small minded peoples general dislike of foriengers in general, be they eastern european, african or asian. Less to do with the colour of their skin and more to do with the fact that they are not irish but working here etc etc.

    And then theres national stereotypes for example. Nigerians and indeed Nigeria itself tends to have a bit of a bad rep, and it is likley some people will presume you are nigerian and make presumptions about you before talking to you. Most of the time that presumption will be as harmless as expecting a nigerian accent from you but of course theres always eejits out there that buy into stereotypes 100%.

    But anyway no, there is generally not a lot of racism in ireland and apart from dublin black people are not that common here.

    Don't worry about it and I hope you have a good time over here.

    I personally get very disapointed and disgusted when I do hear about the odd case of racism, and I imagine the vast majority of Irish people are the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭pulpfictionost


    I never saw anything differant about black people, I still dont.
    The people I watch out for are Nigerians.

    I went out with a beautiful nigerian girl for 3 years, and what I learned was horrible. In her family they were all about the 'show' even thought they had no money, her brothers would show off their new expenisve clothes and watches to me. They were highly superficial.

    They would regularly beat the living sh1te out of thier sisters, which im told is normal in nigerian culture. She told me she was abused for years when she was a child and raped as a teenager, which is supposedly common enough for her.

    They would say ridiculus things that they think are wise, and misquote great authors and poets.

    Sometimes they I could hardly stop myself from laughing at the things they would say and do, but beneath it all they were violent as **** to everybody and oppurtunistic thieves.

    Also the girl turned out to be a right kunt aswell, which was weird because I always thought she broke the stereotype of loud obnoxious africans.
    One day I caught her ****ing another guy.

    So I'm pretty sick to the stomach to say it but when someone tells me they are nigerian alarm bells go off in my head. It aint nice but that just me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    I dpn't care how many black people there are, as long as i can have a go at them feckin greeks.

    They invented gayness!
    Memo to self: send the Greeks a gift basket!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,202 ✭✭✭amacca


    Themanbear wrote: »
    So a black guy walking down the street isnt going to get stared at like he's an alien or expected to burst out into a freestyle rap?

    Eh no, this isn't 1980.

    Unless you're asking for it.....does this hypothetical "black person" dress like MC Hammer and carry a Ghetto Blaster on his shoulder.

    has he/she got a cool 20ft high sculpted fro!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,202 ✭✭✭amacca


    efb wrote: »
    Memo to self: send the Greeks a gift basket!

    Quite - less competition.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 Themanbear


    I never saw anything differant about black people, I still dont.
    The people I watch out for are Nigerians.

    I went out with a beautiful nigerian girl for 3 years, and what I learned was horrible. In her family they were all about the 'show' even thought they had no money, her brothers would show off their new expenisve clothes and watches to me. They were highly superficial.

    They would regularly beat the living sh1te out of thier sisters, which im told is normal in nigerian culture. She told me she was abused for years when she was a child and raped as a teenager, which is supposedly common enough for her.

    They would say ridiculus things that they think are wise, and misquote great authors and poets.

    Sometimes they I could hardly stop myself from laughing at the things they would say and do, but beneath it all they were violent as **** to everybody and oppurtunistic thieves.

    Also the girl turned out to be a right kunt aswell, which was weird because I always thought she broke the stereotype of loud obnoxious africans.
    One day I caught her ****ing another guy.

    So I'm pretty sick to the stomach to say it but when someone tells me they are nigerian alarm bells go off in my head. It aint nice but that just me.

    This made me LOL so hard. I don't think anyone anywhere likes Nigerians, not even in Nigeria.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,222 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    I never saw anything differant about black people, I still dont.

    The people I watch out for are Nigerians.

    I passed out with drink in a Dublin taxi a few weeks ago, and in my semi-conscious state left my wallet behind when I got out. The Nigerian driver popped round a few days later to return it.

    I was pleased to have two stereotypes overturned in one go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭Svetti Arss


    Lumen wrote: »
    I passed out with drink in a Dublin taxi a few weeks ago, and in my semi-conscious state left my wallet behind when I got out. The Nigerian driver popped round a few days later to return it.

    I was pleased to have two stereotypes overturned in one go.
    Yeah, but was there anything in it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    OP was my assumption correct or what? As otherwise this would be a strange thread :P

    Where are you from anyway?

    And lets not have this thread turn into a Nigerian bashing thread ffs

    lol I mean I know your only joking but to start a thread such as this then make a comment such as that, its just a bit .. yeah


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 Themanbear


    Sisko wrote: »
    OP was my assumption correct or what? As otherwise this would be a strange thread :P

    Where are you from anyway?

    I'm Half African American and Half Swedish. It's hard to say exactly where I'm from since I've moved between NY and Stockholm my whole life. And yes, I'm coming to Ireland soon for Med School :P

    You have a way of figuring people out don't you! Sneaky bugger lol

    Yeah, I guess it is pretty ironic to bash Nigerians in an anti-racism thread, my apologies lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    I'm a regular Sherlock Holmes :pac:

    I had also guessed you were probably American.

    You'll be grand here man, you'd more likely get abuse for being American then anything else tbh :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Themanbear wrote: »
    I'm Half African American and Half Swedish.

    So which half is African, which half is American and which half is Swedish?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    Your really askin for a rollyeyed smiley there man tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    I have never seen any racism TBH, I never once saw an Irish man called a black man a "nigg3r" or anything like that.

    Speaking for Cork City, there are a fair amount of black people around. Cork is a multi-cultural place, so there are many nationalities.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Sisko wrote: »
    Your really askin for a rollyeyed smiley there man tbh.

    Me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,222 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Yeah, but was there anything in it?

    Yes. Cash, cards, drivers licence, everything.

    He looked a bit surprised when I hugged him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Me?

    Yeah and you've now failed twice by not replying to my post with a rollyeyed smiley. How could you miss such a brilliant set up? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    Lumen wrote: »
    My own experience as a white British person is that I occasionally hear Irish people slagging "immigrants", in conversation with me, with no obvious irony.

    On the rare occasion I bother challenging the contradiction directly, I'm told that they're not talking about me because "you're one of us/the same as us".

    I'd half a mind to get some business cards printed out for an Oliver Cromwell Appreciation Society Of The British Isles And Former Colonic Territories, with a link to a website (ciníochtuilli.ie ?) explaining in detail how fúcking stupid they are.

    you should live in the UK and listen to the Irish give out about them immigrants.


    Most annoying blood thing is they can't get the name right for a black person in Irish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    CorkMan wrote: »
    I have never seen any racism TBH, I never once saw an Irish man called a black man a "nigg3r" or anything like that.

    Speaking for Cork City, there are a fair amount of black people around. Cork is a multi-cultural place, so there are many nationalities.


    Multi Cultural

    We tolerate non Cork people :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Sisko wrote: »
    Yeah and you've now failed twice by not replying to my post with a rollyeyed smiley. How could you miss such a brilliant set up? :pac:

    I was just pointing out the ludicrousness of being half African American and half Swedish.

    Makes no sense to me


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    I was just pointing out the ludicrousness of being half African American and half Swedish.

    Makes no sense to me



    Wait your telling me you never heard of African Americans?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Sisko wrote: »
    Wait your telling me you never heard of African Americans?

    I have indeed.

    But "African American" is not a Nationality like Swedish is. You're either from America (american) or from a particular African country (e.g. Nigerian).

    it would be like me saying "I'm half Scottish and half Muslim".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    Yeah but I had asked the guy if he was black earlier in the thread and where he was from, he was just answering my question man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 Themanbear


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    I have indeed.

    But "African American" is not a Nationality like Swedish is. You're either from America (american) or from a particular African country (e.g. Nigerian).

    it would be like me saying "I'm half Scottish and half Muslim".


    Don't be a tool bro. If you had taken the time out to read what I wrote I stated that I move frequently between the two places and therefore have no single particular national identity. I'm African American because one of my parents was born in America and I'm Swedish because one of my parents was born there too.

    Get back under the bridge from whence you came troll :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Sisko wrote: »
    Yeah but I had asked the guy if he was black earlier in the thread and where he was from, he was just answering my question man.

    They prefer African American!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    lol, only if indeed they are African American.

    Although that does make me think of a really good 'PC gone mad' style joke to write in for an imaginary sitcom.

    Where the overly PC person refers to the guy from Somalia as African American, and awkwardness ensues (followed by laughing from the fake audience)

    genius.

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Sisko wrote: »
    lol, only if indeed they are African American.

    Although that does make me think of a really good 'PC gone mad' style joke to write in for my imaginary sitcom.

    Where the overly PC person refers to the guy from Somalia as African American, genius.

    :pac:

    "It's The New Odd Couple, where one is hungry to please... and the other is just hungry!"

    What if the Somalian guy was actually Swedish?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    Then thats when the shit really hits the fan.


    Seinfeld eat your heart out!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Sisko wrote: »
    Then thats when the shit really hits the fan.


    Seinfeld eat your heart out!

    Is the Somalian named Seinfeld?

    Man, he really IS hungry!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    No the Swedish guy is!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Sisko wrote: »
    No the Swedish guy is!

    Oh, the African American Swedish guy?

    This is gonna be the best sitcom ever!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Sisko


    No he's the Somalian!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Themanbear wrote: »
    How does Irish society deal with race issues? Is there alot of racism? Are there alot of ethnic minorities living in the country?

    I'm curious about this.

    I once say a chink, they really are yellow, I was shocked!

    We have too many gingers though, I think something needs to be done quick about those gingers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    well best of luck with the medical degree. i hope you enjoy yourself. i dont think youll encounter much racism to be honest, as someone said already, youll probably get more stick for being american ;)

    I hope you enjoy the place anyway


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Brayson Glamorous Umpire


    they took our jobs

    They turned alot into one word


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