Crappy Car!!!

niamhsiobhan

I recently bought a peugeot 206 (1999) from a guy I work with. He assured me it was fine, and never had any trouble with it. His partner used it to nip around town in. Being a total girl about it, I trusted the guy and never had anyone else look at the car.
Since I've had it (maybe about 3months now), I've had to get the master cylinder repaired, gear linkage repaired, a new wing mirror for one side and new brake bulbs. Recently my windshield wipers have stopped working and the water pump also. The car is due for NCT the end of this month, and I'm certain there's going to be a million other things wrong with it under the hood.
People I've spoken to who have owned this type of car have all had similar problems with them. Some people tell me to just sell it on, others say put in the extra money and fix it and it will be grand. The thing is I already paid 950 for the car, not including the repairs I've had to carry out on it. Plus the three months tax which was partially wasted because the car was out of order for a while.
Anybody have any suggestions as to what I should do, or anybody in a similar situation? Sell it on or NCT it ??????

Thanks guys

dingding

Any 11 year old car will have problems. If you are not buying a newer car it might be better just to put it through the NCT and see how you go.

Might not need much more to be done.

hairyman

Wipers and water jets are more than likely down to simply a blown fuse.

A 99 206 with no NCT is worthless, get the wipers and washer pump sorted.
Chuck it through the NCT, who knows, it may not be as bad as you may think.

Ah crap.
Dingdong beet me to it,,:D

bmw535d

you bought a car for less than a grand and expect it to be trouble free?:p

bazz26

Pricy lesson to learn here. Always get a car checked out by a mechanic prior to buying it, no matter how well you do or don't know the seller.

VinnyTGM

Did you get the water pump replaced, I wouldn't be driving the car with a non working water pump.
What if you buy another car and that has problems as well?

Anan1

VinnyTGM wrote: »

Did you get the water pump replaced, I wouldn't be driving the car with a non working water pump.

I presume the OP means the screenwash pump. I'm going to take a further punt and ask whether the wipers & washers stopped working after an attempt to use them while frozen?;)

kazul

bmw535d wrote: »

you bought a car for less than a grand and expect it to be trouble free?:p

I bought my car for €900 2 years ago, no major issues yet *touches wood*

bmw535d

kazul wrote: »

I bought my car for €900 2 years ago, no major issues yet *touches wood*

nice 1. the op hasn't had any major issue's either, im guessing he/she is new to the motoring world and expect cars to be like buying a fridge.

Gitb1

bmw535d wrote: »

nice 1. the op hasn't had any major issue's either, im guessing he/she is new to the motoring world and expect cars to be like buying a fridge.

Do people buy second hand fridges?

brendansmith

bmw535d wrote: »

nice 1. the op hasn't had any major issue's either, im guessing he/she is new to the motoring world and expect cars to be like buying a fridge.

Or perhaps her whole life dosnt revolve around cars, perhaps she is not so obsessed with her car that she feels the need to make her username 'peugot206d'.
Grow up buddy.

OP get the nct done, get what ever needs doing fixed on the cheap if possible and sell that car.
You have learned an important lesson, never trust anyone who is trying to sell you a peugot. If your own mother tries to sell you a peugot, immediately disown her and cut contact. If someone tries to give you a brand new peugot, say no, walk away, find an adult.

brendansmith

Gitb1 wrote: »

Do people buy second hand fridges?

Sigh.

This recession is a very necessary event. Someday you will eat those words.

bmw535d

brendansmith wrote: »

Or perhaps her whole life dosnt revolve around cars, perhaps she is not so obsessed with her car that she feels the need to make her username 'peugot206d'.
Grow up buddy.

OP get the nct done, get what ever needs doing fixed on the cheap if possible and sell that car.
You have learned an important lesson, never trust anyone who is trying to sell you a peugot. If your own mother tries to sell you a peugot, immediately disown her and cut contact. If someone tries to give you a brand new peugot, say no, walk away, find an adult.

some one got up on the wrong side of the bed:rolleyes: and thats terrible advise about Peugeot's as a whole, they are not all bad, just the ones for under a grand.

Zubeneschamali

brendansmith wrote: »

If someone tries to give you a brand new peugot, say no, walk away, find an adult.

I'll have an RCZ, please.

keithclancy

Gitb1 wrote: »

Do people buy second hand fridges?

I have a second hand washing machine and fridge, bought them both for 120 euros, better to have one second hand that does the job, save money and then buy a new one when that packs in.

If you have the money in your pocket and its not from a mortgage or a loan then by all means buy a new fridge.

Raskolnikov

niamhsiobhan wrote: »

Recently my windshield wipers have stopped working and the water pump also.

I own a Peugeot and had the exact same problem. Like someone else has pointed out, this is more likely than not just a blown fuse as the water pump and wipers run off the same fuse. The fuse can blow if you try to use your wipers while they're frozen to the windscreen, or have a lot of snow on them. To fix it is simple and costs €2, as opposed to going to a garage and being charged more like €100-€200. Firstly, you need the car manual (the manual might be online if it's not in the car), towards the back there should be a few pages about the fuse box, with a diagram that will tell you which fuse is for the wipers, and what Ampage is needed for the fuse (I think wipers/washers requires 30A from memory). Once you have that, open the glove box, look behind it and you should find a panel where the fuse box is located. All you have to do then is pull out the old fuse (if you look at it closely, you'll see the connection between the fuse has melted) and replace it with a fuse of the same Ampage. By the way, you can buy the fuse in the likes of Halfords or any other garage for about €2. Oh, obviously turn off the engine while you're attempting this.

I don't have the foggiest about cars and I was able to do this in 5 minutes, so don't be afraid, the worst that can happen is the fuse blows again and you're €2 out of pocket.

L-M

They live up to their name, the older 206's are horrible for reliability. In fairness it doesn't sound like a massive list and you wouldn't have gotten much more for 950.

Throw it through the nct and see what it fails on, decide then whether it's worth fixing or cutting your losses.

niamhsiobhan

Thanks guys ( I presume most of ye are! ). In regards too the wipers and water pump, I did check the fuse. Having said that the pump stopped working first and then the wipers a couple of days later. I didn't turn them on in frozen weather because I wasn't driving in it as I'm only starting out. There was no snow or anything I just poured some water on the windscreen to clean it off and the wipers just weren't working. To the remarks that I shouldn't expect a car that actually basically functions for less than a grand is a bit irritating, some of us can't afford anything more, let alone a bmw... On the random topic of the second hand fridges, I have one and it's working just fine!:)

Yawns

A €950 Peugeot 206 is about the same as spending €95 on McDonald's food. It's gonna be shít, terrible and then give you trouble very shortly...

No point complaining about seller when you buy a cheap car. I know too many people that are only willing to buy a 2nd hand car for around 1k and they want it to be fcking perfect in every single little way.

Like the oh's mother. There was a scratch on a bumper and she asked the guy will he get it repaired for her? Car was a Peugeot 206 99 and she spent about 1k buying it lol.....

niamhsiobhan

I gladly take the 95euro worth of mcdonald's food in exchange for the car. Sounds like a better deal to me!

Halfshaft

Where in the country are you based? I may be able to help.

Yawns

She doesn't want it burnt.











yet....

Halfshaft

Yet another helpful tip on this thread, how many of the posts actually belong to mechanics? Your running down a car you've never even seen or know the exact condition of.

kazul

Limerick man wrote: »

They live up to their name, the older 206's are horrible for reliability.

I'm missing something here
Are they called the Peugeot Sh!t?
or Crap 206?

What name do they live up to?

johnos1984

I've had to get the master cylinder repaired

I would consider that as wear and tear, regardless of the mileage. Did they replace the clutch as well?

gear linkage repaired

again wear and tear

a new wing mirror for one side

Why? Did you or someone else knock it off?

and new brake bulbs

Wear and tear, this could happen a brank new top end car

Recently my windshield wipers have stopped working and the water pump also.

Does the rear wiper still work? Is there any noise from the wipers when you turn on the switch? Do the stalks work fine in the car? Try fiddling with them as they could be broken, a common issue. Again it could be the wiper motor, fuse, stalks.

The car is due for NCT the end of this month

Put it in a put some holy water on it

I'm certain there's going to be a million other things wrong with it under the hood.

Your not a mechanic so stop worrying. Neither am I but most of those things seem like wear and tear items more to do with age and how its been driven. None seem like big issues.

OP stop worrying and sort the wipers then put it in for the NCT and go form there. Most people who buy cheap cars have some skills to fix them as they generally have some small issues. Find a good mechanic, not the cheapest one who will sort one issue at a time and charge you twice as much in the end.

Where are you based? Someone here may be able to help

niamhsiobhan

Halfshaft wrote: »

Where in the country are you based? I may be able to help.

I'm in lovely laois... I don't need help burning it out though. Evidently I'm more than capable of wrecking it all by myself in the impressive time of less than three months!;)

Halfshaft

niamhsiobhan wrote: »

I'm in lovely laois... I don't need help burning it out though. Evidently I'm more than capable of wrecking it all by myself in the impressive time of less than three months!;)

I'm just on the Tipp side of our border, If you need a mechanic to look at it let me know.

RoundyMooney

You may well be worried over nothing.

Pay little heed to the badge snobs on here, it's a cheap motor, and at that price, reliability and condition counts for far more than the badge on the bonnet.

A minor electrical issue and a couple of wear and tear items does not a scrapper make.

Yawns

RoundyMooney wrote: »

and at that price, reliability and condition counts

€950 will get you a car with wear n tear and a few things other besides. A 206 will give you the reliability of a horse in space

johnos1984

Yawns wrote: »

€950 will get you a car with wear n tear and a few things other besides. A 206 will give you the reliability of a horse in space

I'm not a fan but none of the issues above are a cause to worry

L-M

kazul wrote: »

I'm missing something here
Are they called the Peugeot Sh!t?
or Crap 206?

What name do they live up to?

They're ****e, and I couldn't be bothered getting into a petty argument with you.

Eoin

Can we shut up about fridges and the stupid sweeping generalisations please; neither of them help the OP.

colm1234

sure the pug 206 is not the most reliable car that goes for a lot of older french cars, but to say that you cant get a reliable car for under 950 is rubbish theres plenty of great older cars out there eg 97 toyota carina, 93 to 97 toyota corolla, civic aint too bad either. trick is if you dont have piles of cash for a car then stick to the older jap cars for their reliability, and before we all start with the oh they look ****e comments id rather have somthing that runs, than somthing that looks good and sits broken down in the drive.


now Il sit back and wait for all the thats a load of crap comments cas everyone an expert here :P

JustLen

Well said Colm beat me too it. there is piles of cars on donedeal these days for under 1k that would be reliable.
Sure you would have to inspect a car to be sure but from looking through whats on offer i bet you could find a dozen at the very least

niamhsiobhan

Anybody have any idea how much I'd get for the car if i let it go to some of those companies that take cars for cash? You know like N4cars.ie or a crowd like that. I know I'd get less than what I paid for it obviously. I think I just want to be rid of it now to be honest. I'm having serious problems with my wages in work ( There's another post relating to that under Work Problems! ) and I have to get quite a few bits for the car before the NCT on the 22nd of this month, as well as more tax due at the end of the month and the insurance crowd hounding me for money that I'm late with all due to my s**t job and pay.....Grrrrrrrrrrr. And to be honest I don't think I can come up with the all the money I need literally within the next two weeks. Maybe I'd be better just taking the loss, and saving up for a better car from a garage that i can have a little more reassurance with and come back. Either way it's safe to say I've def learnt a lesson here.

This post has sparked a mild bit of controversy me thinks, but thanks to a lot everyone who has taken the time to reply to it.

Nonoperational

You'd get very very very little for it. If anything.

galwaytt

niamhsiobhan wrote: »

Anybody have any idea how much I'd get for the car if i let it go to some of those companies that take cars for cash? You know like N4cars.ie or a crowd like that. I know I'd get less than what I paid for it obviously. I think I just want to be rid of it now to be honest. I'm having serious problems with my wages in work ( There's another post relating to that under Work Problems! ) and I have to get quite a few bits for the car before the NCT on the 22nd of this month, as well as more tax due at the end of the month and the insurance crowd hounding me for money that I'm late with all due to my s**t job and pay.....Grrrrrrrrrrr. And to be honest I don't think I can come up with the all the money I need literally within the next two weeks. Maybe I'd be better just taking the loss, and saving up for a better car from a garage that i can have a little more reassurance with and come back. Either way it's safe to say I've def learnt a lesson here.

This post has sparked a mild bit of controversy me thinks, but thanks to a lot everyone who has taken the time to reply to it.

Look, until such time as your car actually fails the NCT, all this is just conjecture. If it passes, this thread is for nought. If it fails, you can quantify exactly what has to be fixed, and we can help on how much that might cost.

Now, if it passes, even with some modest cost repairs, why change it then ? It's fixed, isn't it ? Buying another car for same or similar money is just.......another gamble....no matter what badge it wears.

If it fails, then, again, you now have something to quantify.

Then if you sell, at whatever price, the cost-to-change may well exceed the price of any repairs.

Get it nct-able - at least that way if it passes, and you want to sell, you'll have some kind of market for it.