Could anyone lend me forty grand?

VolvoMan

I have to say, I really like this: http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volvo/S60/D3-%28163-/201049200460507/advert?channel=CARS

Midnight_EG

It looks like a fish from the front

bmw535d

i would lend you 80 grand if you used it to buy rockets to destroy that ugly volvo.

hairyman

Take the badges off and I would struggle to tell its a Volvo at all, very pretty car all the same.

I can Loan you 40,000.
But I'l need it back at the end of the week, ex wife is due maintenance and needs money for laser hair removal,,,:D

Hotwheels

Ya can buy a 159 Ti for less money...better looking car too...:)

Absurdum

it looks like the back end is on axle stands

I wouldn't lend you €40 for that

rugbyman

i have driven one al this week, quite fast, brilliant when overtaking.
have not yet found the handbrake.

regards rugbyman

robtri

jesus its ugly..
the shoes on that thing are the worst....

40k..... and all u get is a miserable 163 horses... for 40 grand i would buy something older .... bigger, better equipped, more powerfull, way better looking (i know looks are individual) and still have change for a couple year tax &insurance and a bit of petrol

-Corkie-

It looks like a IS 220 after an arguement with a Articulated truck..

homer90

Now that's a mess !

Bleed'in stay'ra it...

VolvoMan

bmw535d wrote: »

i would lend you 80 grand if you used it to buy rockets to destroy that ugly volvo.

Oh I'm sorry, would a blue and white propeller badge make it better looking?

Hotwheels wrote: »

Ya can buy a 159 Ti for less money...better looking car too...:)

The 159 is a nice car, but I never saw it as the stunner people think it is. From some angles it can look quite ungainly and I think overall it lacks the design purity of the 156 that went before it..

Also, the 159 should be replaced in a year or two and it is no longer really competitive in the segment it competes in. It's far too bloated and overweight, making it a pretty poor handler.

Absurdum wrote: »

it looks like the back end is on axle stands

That's one personal criticism I have of the design myself. Overall though I think it is a very pretty car and the reactions to it on this thread so far can only be put down to the convervative tastes of people on here in general.

Hotwheels

Also, the 159 should be replaced in a year or two and it is no longer really competitive in the segment it competes in. It's far too bloated and overweight, making it a pretty poor handler.

I'm on me third and Never had a problem with handling, I got the opportunity of a few laps of Tynagh. And found I had to do something really stupid to upset the 159...

Each to their own....:)

diamondtooth

I actually like this Volvo. The interior looks lovely. Also like the Alfa 159 and even the Honda Accord.

Basically I like anything with a bit more imagination that just buying another 3 Series.

peasant

Midnight_EG wrote: »

It looks like a fish from the front

and like a clown face from the back

messymess

I'll loan you 40k but on condition that you get your head checked with it !


40k .... on a volvo? Are you mad?


People think I'm mad for wanting to spend that type of money on an NSX. But a volvo takes it to a whole different level

TCP/IP

What a pile of garbage. Nothing to do with it been a volvo but its ugly, slow and is horrible inside. What could possibly make you want to buy this. As much as it pains me to say it buy a Skoda another pile of rubbish and save yourself a packet.

coolbeans

I think it should be noted that those dealer pics are terrible...really bad. In real life it's actually a fine looking motor and miles prettier than the lazy (rear like a mark II Primera) E90 3 series.
The price IS steep although I really can't fathom why people are so aghast when all half of ever ye do is drool over spending similar money on cars like the aforementioned and frankly hugely overrated E90 and the oh so predictable and ugly, in standard form at least (yawn) 520d. Not to mention bloody Skodas. Gimme a break! And this is coming from a long time, if increasingly disillusioned, BMW and Audi fan

J77

Pitty the banks aren't on boards, they might have a genuine reply for you:D

I really like the look of it, although it's a pity there's no D5s around yet. That would be some fun.

Would consider it for a future buy if not for numerous reliability issues with my current volvo!

VolvoMan

messymess wrote: »

I'll loan you 40k but on condition that you get your head checked with it !


40k .... on a volvo? Are you mad?


People think I'm mad for wanting to spend that type of money on an NSX. But a volvo takes it to a whole different level

OK, you give me your reason why 40k isn't a realistic retail price price for a new Volvo then? They are hardly a downmarket brand like Nissan or Ford.

So I presume people won't think much of the estate version in R-Design trim then?:

bmw535d

who in the right state of mentle health would buy that over an f10 520d, one less cylinder and it still gets 184 bhp from a 2.0 diesel. better fuel economy and better emissions. better looking too. handles better on the road, i mean what part of the volvo is superior to it?

pburns

coolbeans wrote: »

I think it should be noted that those dealer pics are terrible...really bad. In real life it's actually a fine looking motor and miles prettier than the lazy (rear like a mark II Primera) E90 3 series.

What he said...the photos are crap. And those wheels are crap.

The comments here are ridiculous. Unless it's a BMW or VAG product nobody here wants to know. As conservative as the last generation were about Corollas and Sunnys.

I've seen and driven (briefly) one of these. Great looking car in a decent spec with lovely quality interior (maybe a bit Scandinavia for the BMW fanboys).

My only concern is that it doesn't really seem to have major Volvo design cues. Swap the badge and it could be anything. But it's class competitive to drive and not a me-too, over-rated, hard-riding German. Why all the vitriol???

VolvoMan

bmw535d wrote: »

who in the right state of mentle health would buy that over an f10 520d, one less cylinder and it still gets 184 bhp from a 2.0 diesel. better fuel economy and better emissions. better looking too. handles better on the road, i mean what part of the volvo is superior to it?

Relax a bit mate, it's just a car.;)

The S60 isn't a rival to the 5 Series anyway, so you've just all got heat up over nothing. It starts at 32 grand and competes with the 3 Series, which also retails at similar prices.

pburns wrote: »

Why all the vitriol???

+1

The way some people react to anything with a Volvo badge on here makes you swear a Volvo salesman slept with their girlfriend or something.

x in the city

VolvoMan wrote: »

I have to say, I really like this: http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volvo/S60/D3-%28163-/201049200460507/advert?channel=CARS

that is bs

40grand....

lol

If I had €40K I was willing to spend on a car I'd lease myself a strip club in the UK instead :pac:

Minister Boyce

Another conservative observer throwing his tuppence worth to this thread... Not one of Volvo's most stunning creations... I actually like Volvo but the Volvo Branding on the boot is similar to a Tonka Truck I got for christmas many moons ago.

J77

I don't think it's going to sell as well as they had hoped. Not saying it's bad value but I don't think it's enough to lure people away from bmw/audi/merc with what it's offering. Might grab folks coming from other volvo's and coming up from lower classed cars like mondeos etc.

VolvoMan

x in the city wrote: »

that is bs

40grand....

lol

Yes but you'd easily spend 40 grand on a 3 Series or A4 as well, this is just well specced. What's the problem

Listen, we might as well just close this thread. I really just started it because I liked the colour combination of this particular S60 and wanted to see people's reaction to it, maybe create a bit of intelligent discussion, you know?? But now I have and I know that people fail to understand number one that this is a 3 Series rival and two that not everyone wants a 520d (which an S80 would be a fairer comparison with BTW).

Zascar

There are several hundred cars I can think of that I'd buy before spending 40k on that. You'd have to be nuts to buy something like that... You could find something way nicer for a third of the price.

VolvoMan

Zascar wrote: »

There are several hundred cars I can think of that I'd buy before spending 40k on that. You'd have to be nuts to buy something like that... You could find something way nicer for a third of the price.

So you could find an equivalent 2011 compact executive car for around 13 grand is what you're telling me?

copacetic

Crazily overpriced for a nice but average car. I think volvo have lost it a bit on their attempt to go upmarket. Similar to the way subaru have tried to go upmarket by increasing prices without actually making cars that can compete in every area with the 'premium' brands.

Whatever about people being fanboys etc(which is the usual trite reply) anyone who pays that much for a volvo saloon will see it depreciate at twice the rate of the premium marques.

I really like the look of the V60, but again, it's a very average drive, and overpriced for what you get.

Zascar

Never said anything about the year. Why people have such an obsession with the year of cars is beyond me. I'd must rather a far better car, few years old, few miles on the clock for way less money.

But hey, that's just me!

VolvoMan

VolvoMan wrote: »

What's the problem

The Volvo isn't the problem

VolvoMan

Zascar wrote: »

Never said anything about the year. Why people have such an obsession with the year of cars is beyond me. I'd must rather a far better car, few years old, few miles on the clock for way less money

Absolutely, I am far from a reg obsessed person myself, it's just the way you were saying it. People on here will know that I love older cars, primarily in the 15-20 year range.

Subaru seem to like the new S60 design anyway, as they've copied it for their next Impreza:

TCP/IP

VolvoMan wrote: »

Relax a bit mate, it's just a car.;)

The S60 isn't a rival to the 5 Series anyway, so you've just all got heat up over nothing. It starts at 32 grand and competes with the 3 Series, which also retails at similar prices.



+1

The way some people react to anything with a Volvo badge on here makes you swear a Volvo salesman slept with their girlfriend or something.

Come on a Volvo salesman never slept with anybody.

mickdw

I like the look of the v60. As estate cars go, it pretty good. I detest etates most of the time.

cozzie55

these have to be some of the worst pics I have seen for a car in a long time and that is saying something. They do the car no justice.

The car is a very good looker and a great alternative to a 3 series. Would have to question the price of it. You could get a s80 for that price (D3 is about 41000k in SE spec)and add a bit more and get a x60(poverty spec though) which are both very good lookers. Or else get a top of the range s40 r design and have a few quid to spare. (pity they got rid of the d3 2l though. 1.6l ain't bad but its not really a contender in the higher brackets)

I've always thought volvos and saabs were very underrated cars(except the new 9-5 which is pig ugly) they make a great alternative to a run of the mill bmw/audi/merc. I much prefer less conspicuous cars and uncommon cars and at the minute most volvos fit that bill(s40 is becoming too common now though). I love my brother in laws s40 r design and if i could afford one it'd have it in the morning.

Op not sur about the colour. Navy is a very boring colour. I'd prefer something unusual. Love the red/orange colour in the adds for this car. The r design one is gorgeous and that is saying something for an estate. Love the wheels and double exhaust.

bmw535d

VolvoMan wrote: »

Relax a bit mate, it's just a car.;)

The S60 isn't a rival to the 5 Series anyway, so you've just all got heat up over nothing. It starts at 32 grand and competes with the 3 Series, which also retails at similar prices.



+1

The way some people react to anything with a Volvo badge on here makes you swear a Volvo salesman slept with their girlfriend or something.

wouldn't the s40 be a 3series rival? the s60 a 5series rival, and the s80 an 7series rival? all of which the appropriate BMW blows them out of the water on all accounts?i don't know why anyone would spend 40 grand on a car as ugly as that

cozzie55

bmw535d wrote: »

wouldn't the s40 be a 3series rival? the s60 a 5series rival, and the s80 an 7series rival? all of which the appropriate BMW blows them out of the water on all accounts?i don't know why anyone would spend 40 grand on a car as ugly as that

nope. The S40 is supposed to contend in the family saloon bracket with prices starting at 25k. The S60 is in the small executive bracket with the 3 series(both start at 32k) and the S80 (around 38k) is in the larger executive bracket with the 5 series(not sure of this price about 42k i think)

fabsoul

bmw535d wrote: »

i would lend you 80 grand if you used it to buy rockets to destroy that ugly volvo.

yep it ugly

Mr.Boots

I love Volvos, but that looks like a Mistubishi lancer/ IS220/S40.
Its hard to get cars looking good in photos so i reserve my judgement till i see it in the flesh.
Looks like light colours might suit it better though.



Ps; im just happy its not another BMW i have to look at on Boards.

x in the city

VolvoMan wrote: »

So you could find an equivalent 2011 compact executive car for around 13 grand is what you're telling me?

a honda accord would be better than that tbh

and i mean one you could get for 20 grand or so..:rolleyes:

for 40 grand there are about 1,000 other cars i would get, 2005 or so

and i would have plenty change

40 grand is s class territory or m power bmw, not for the same year of course

R.O.R

Jeez - there aint much love for the S60 around here................

I've drove all cars in that class last year (A4, C-Class, 3 Series) and a few different variations on the new 5 Series, and if I was going out to buy a new car tomorrow - I'd be off to the Volvo dealership.

The linked one actually looks like the demo we have (which is off to Galway for sale I think - there were about 20 demo's registered in 2010 which should all hit the market in the next couple of weeks). The price is a bit high (must be an SE LUX), but there is decent discount available.

The engine is a peach. Fuel economy isn't spectacular (like an Audi or BMW), but the torque from the 5 cylinder is fantastic. As long as you remember to change gear at the right time, it pulls like not much else on the market. Feels quicker than a 320d or A4 170bhp, and certainly handled very, very well around the back roads of Co. Meath.

SE with Leather and the Driver Support pack would be enough for me. Don't need the Xenon's or electric seats. Have an SE LUX with the driver support pack due to me next week - that will be a lot of car for not too much money in 3 years time when it comes back.

Oh, and Volvo Ireland have a D5 for test drive which I'll try to get my hands on when there is less ice around. Think it might have trouble getting 205bhp on the road in the current conditions.

x in the city

x in the city wrote: »

a honda accord would be better than that tbh

and i mean one you could get for 20 grand or so..:rolleyes:

for 40 grand there are about 1,000 other cars i would get, 2005 or so

and i would have plenty change

40 grand is s class territory or m power bmw, not for the same year of course

Comparing what you can get 2nd hand for new car money is fairly looney. For every new car bought you could get a "better" car 2nd hand. For 99% of second hand cars you'd get a "better" older one for less too.

Zubeneschamali

I think Volvo are mad to try and compete in this "executive" sector. Safe family cars are what they are known for: do more of that. Family car buyers buy hatches, estates, SUVs and MPVs.

Volvo do great estates. I hate SUVs, but Volvo should obviously make them since there's a bunch of idiots market out there, and I think their current efforts are among the best.

The recent models were based on Fords, so why no Scandinavian S-Max? They took the mechanically excellent but low-rent Focus hatch, and what do they do to it? Turn it into an impractical Dinky car or an imitation junior executive saloon! Mad.

Leonard Hofstadter

Good lord, there is some amount of badge snobbery going on here - people getting all worked up about the 520d ffs! It's a four cylinder 2 litre diesel engined saloon for Christ's sake! A four cylinder engine diesel saloon is boring - just because it's got a BMW doesn't mean it's an object of lust and desire. No serious car enthusiast would think they've "made it" with just a 520d.

I can understand the fuss about a 530d - it's got the right number of cylinders for starters, but getting excited about a bottom of the range four cylinder engine - the same as in a Ford Ka or Dacia Logan:eek:? Gimme a break. At least an S60 has a more interesting five cylinder engine under the bonnet.

The pictures of the S60 do not do it justice. It just doesn't look right at the back - it looks like someone has the rear of it jacked up because there is some gap between the wheels and the arches. But in reality it looks well - like most modern Volvos do. The big gap in the photos doesn't seem to be there in the real thing - at least not on 17 inch wheels.

The one thing I do agree on is that the car is just too expensive. Thirty-nine grand is just way too close to a 520d - which is only three grand more, and despite its flaws, it's got more power, has more space, has a 'better' badge and most of all is a competitor to the larger and more expensive S80. Despite it not being an object of desire, a 520d is still a very good car - and it's a better car than an S60 as long as the price gap is as narrow as it currently is.

Part of the appeal of a Volvo is that you get lots of toys - and the problem with the S60 is that you have to get the SE Lux to get leather. I hate that, because Volvos always had leather as standard once you got an SE version. An SE is €36,500 but it's €1,500 for leather and if you're going that far you might as well cough up the extra grand for the electric drivers seat, adaptive headlights etc. Granted a 520d doesn't have adaptive headlights but it does have everything else an SE Lux S60 has bar bluetooth. It even has part electic adjustment of the passengers seat, something the Volvo does not have. If I was buying an S60 I wouldn't be happy unless I had an SE Lux and at that stage I'd be trying to find an extra three grand for a BMW.

VolvoMan

captainspeed wrote: »

Good lord, there is some amount of badge snobbery going on here - people getting all worked up about the 520d ffs!

Particularly this lad:

messymess wrote: »

40k .... on a volvo? Are you mad?


People think I'm mad for wanting to spend that type of money on an NSX. But a volvo takes it to a whole different level

What a tool.:rolleyes:

YouTookMyName

You should be asking for 47k for a S80.

Typewriter

Can someone lend me 65 grand for the T6?





I WANT!!!

Victor McDade

hairyman wrote: »

I can Loan you 40,000.
But I'l need it back at the end of the week, ex wife is due maintenance and needs money for laser hairyman removal,,,:D

FYP;)

Matt Simis

Typewriter wrote: »

Can someone lend me 65 grand for the T6?

I WANT!!!

Thats a much nicer looking car than the S60 linked originally.

Heroditas

VolvoMan wrote: »

Subaru seem to like the new S60 design anyway, as they've copied it for their next Impreza:

I quite like the look of that!