Do you believe political correctness is gone too far?

Cantona's Collars

I've just read this article http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1344192/Huckleberry-Finn-removes-N-word-Political-correctness-takes-Mark-Twains-classic.html and I'm astounded.I grew up reading this book among others and it didn't turn me into a rabid racist.The book was written for it's time and uses language that was common for the day so no offence should be taken from it.
In another case a town council in England banned Santa's grotto in case it would offend Muslims.They were more offended by the fact it was banned.
Do the people who come up with these crazy ideas live in the real world?

FatherLen

yeah of course political correctness has gone too far.



edit: poll would be nice...

I love the way the DM go on about it as being a disgrace to censor a word from a book by referring to it as the "N" word and "n***r". Hypocrisy much?

Einhard

PC hasn't gone too far. The very concept of PC was a step too far in the first place. Where once common sense and the notion of propriety were arbiters of what should and should not be said, now the shrill hysteria of whoever can shriek the loudest dictates public discourse.

prinz

I don't think people should be prevented from making tits of themselves in that way.

Rabies

Someone should censor the Bible too.

Some out dated sh!te in that too

inforfun

From the article: A new edition replaces the 'N word' with 'slave'


And in 50 years they ll write the damn thing again in order to replace "slave" with "unvoluntary personal assistent"

Idiots.

evil_seed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZCS5I80X-8

Cantona's Collars

Deleted User wrote: »

I love the way the DM go on about it as being a disgrace to censor a word from a book by referring to it as the "N" word and "n***r". Hypocrisy much?

Had a bit of a smile myself at that.Will they start using B word in case they offend all the illegitemate children that they regularly complain about.

HayleyLyons1

It is not about political correctness, it is about wiping western culture off the map.

FatherLen

HayleyLyons1 wrote: »

It is not about political correctness, it is about wiping western culture off the map.

no its not

strobe

HayleyLyons1 wrote: »

It is not about political correctness, it is about wiping western culture off the map.

LOL wut?

sensibleken

Its the daily mail. Why do people read that rag!

I think that edit is rediculous but I also love when people get up in arms sayin stuff like 'you cant even call the blacks níggers any more, its just political correctness gone mad!'

Duggy747

With all our advancement in culture and technology it's strange and annoying that we seem to be going backwards in what people need to be told not to do in case you create an emotional response from somebody else.

The piss was truly taken when, after more than 50 years of being okay, someone decided to cut bits and pieces out of the Tom & Jerry cartoons so as not to have a violent influence or *SHOCK* *HORROR* to have our precious little kids take up smoking after a scene where Tom smoothly rolls up a smoke to show off to a female.

Which is worse, the hysterical outcry from these "saviours" of society or the gobshìtes that let them get away with it and bow to their wild assumptions?

Bastards!!

Kimono-Girl

Political Correctness has gone too far imo.

Cantona's Collars

sensibleken wrote: »

Its the daily mail. Why do people read that rag!

I think that edit is rediculous but I also love when people get up in arms sayin stuff like 'you cant even call the blacks níggers any more, its just political correctness gone mad!'

I read it online for the sport-it's a great aggregator of news on your football club. Plus I geat a giggle from reading some of the crazy comments on their articles (some seriously deluded people out there).

Even so,the censoring of classic novels is crazy.Am open too correction but weren't some nursery rhymes changed and some characters dropped from kids books such as Noddy?

HayleyLyons1

FatherLen wrote: »

no its not

You want to go and get yourself informed before you contradict my posts, buddy.

strobe wrote: »

LOL wut?

"we" are all one now, the thinking is that if there is no culture, how can there be culture clashes????

FatherLen

HayleyLyons1 wrote: »

You want to go and get yourself informed before you contradict my posts, buddy.

i'm not your buddy............guy

TheZohanS

HayleyLyons1 wrote: »

It is not about political correctness, it is about wiping western culture off the map.

And the church, don't forget they hate the church too Casey.

HayleyLyons1

TheZohan wrote: »

And the church, don't forget they hate the church too.

There are many targets.

sensibleken

HayleyLyons1 wrote: »

There are many targets.

can you ask them to target Lush? that place stinks

rabble rabble the good old days rabble rabble bring back hanging rabble rabble cat o nine tails isn't good enough rabble rabble bring back poorhouses rabble rabble them gollywogs taking our jobs rabble rabble women need to realise their place is the kitchen rabble rabble separation of the upper classes from the rabble rabble......

johnmcdnl

PC is gone too far yes - poll isn't even needed because the only people who'd vote NO are the people who just want to be awkward and funny by trying to skew the poll results:rolleyes:

As for this example - at the time described in the book people regularly called black people nigers and it was seen as acceptable - therefore any literature around based at that time is obviously going to incorporate that - just like if your watching a film based in the 1500s the actors won't be going round wearing jeans and tshirts - it's all part of the context of the story...

course the PC brigade wouldn't want to hear this part of the argument or they might seem like complete gob****es:rolleyes:

mahamageehad

yes it's gone way too far...
and i present my proof



baaa baaa multicoloured sheep, have you any wool........:rolleyes:

sensibleken

zerks wrote: »

I read it online for the sport-it's a great aggregator of news on your football club. Plus I geat a giggle from reading some of the crazy comments on their articles (some seriously deluded people out there).

Even so,the censoring of classic novels is crazy.Am open too correction but weren't some nursery rhymes changed and some characters dropped from kids books such as Noddy?

true. changing classic novels in this regard is crazy. classic novels like huck finn are not simply stories but part history book which give you a window into the attitudes of the time and place in which its set. Removing that word from a puplication is offensive as it removes reference to something which quite rightly embarasses white america.

nursery rhymes and fairy tales im less concerned with

sensibleken

johnmcdnl wrote: »

PC is gone too far yes - poll isn't even needed because the only people who'd vote NO are the people who just want to be awkward and funny by trying to skew the poll results:rolleyes:

As for this example - at the time described in the book people regularly called black people nigers and it was seen as acceptable - therefore any literature around based at that time is obviously going to incorporate that - just like if your watching a film based in the 1500s the actors won't be going round wearing jeans and tshirts - it's all part of the context of the story...

course the PC brigade wouldn't want to hear this part of the argument or they might seem like complete gob****es:rolleyes:

theres really nothing to connect those two. anyway you see plenty of movies where people are wearing the wrong clothing. Braveheart for example is set in the 14th century and theyre wearing kilts. nothing to do with political correctness at all, but expectaions and these are not a concern when dealing with classic 19th century novels

Cantona's Collars

sensibleken wrote: »

nursery rhymes and fairy tales im less concerned with

But what about Baa Baa Coloured Sheep?...Or is it African American Sheep? This PC stuff has my mind melted.

There were complaints over the Christmas Top Gear due to the 3 lads wearing Burkhas in Jordan,they said it was offensive.The guys did it in a Muslim country and nobody there complained,however the PC brigade in England jumped on it along with the gag of putting baby Stig in the crib.

Nodin

zerks wrote: »

There were complaints over the Christmas Top Gear due to the 3 lads wearing Burkhas in Jordan,they said it was offensive..

They did? You're sure the Mail didn't just ask the head of a militant Islamist party for his opinion and then say 'Joke causes offence' in the headline...

Irish Guitarist

You can't say the word God on American daytime television. So yes it has gone too far.

Another example of how it's gone too far happened about three years ago. There was an advertisement where Vinnie Jones lured a bird to his house under the pretense of giving him food. The bird then split his head off of the window and Vinnie Jones laughed. Loads of people complained about this and it was taken off the air. I love birds and would have agreed with it being taken off the air except for the fact that it was an animated bird. Seriously, enough people complained about cruelty to an imaginary bird to get an advertisement taken off the air.

Another example is Celebrity Big Brother a couple of years ago. Some z list celebrity from a half forgotten girl group says something racist and the world goes into shock.

sensibleken

zerks wrote: »

But what about Baa Baa Coloured Sheep?...Or is it African American Sheep? This PC stuff has my mind melted.

There were complaints over the Christmas Top Gear due to the 3 lads wearing Burkhas in Jordan,they said it was offensive.The guys did it in a Muslim country and nobody there complained,however the PC brigade in England jumped on it along with the gag of putting baby Stig in the crib.

Is that baa baa black sheep thing actually true though? or is it one of those nonsense daily mail stories like the one about europe regulating the bendyness of bananas against the will of brits.

yes, you will always have spanners. how many actually complained about the top gear thing, a very small minority compared to their overall viewership which is in the millions ill bet.

People like to complain, and there are serial complainers who will give out about everything, not just from this imaginary 'PC brigade' but people who think that the only time they can say anything is if its giving out about something. Just read the comments on articles or the letters pages in papers.

strobe

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

You can't say the word God on American daytime television. So yes it has gone too far.

That is not true though.

Irish Guitarist

strobe wrote: »

That is not true though.

I saw an episode of King Of Queens on Comedy Central a couple of years ago where someone said something like "sweet mother of God" and the word God was bleeped out. Admittedly this was the British version of the channel but I assume they were following American guidelines.

squishykins

It's a joke alright. I've never experienced much of it here in Ireland but I had a teacher who taught in England for a while, some of the stories she told us about being given out to by the principal for the most stupid of things...the one that stands out in my mind the most is she wasn't allowed to say "brain-storm" for fear of offending the disabled children. Instead she had to say "thought-shower"...Who honestly sits around all day thinking up these rules? Did anyone ever actually take offense to that term?
Also my Austrian lecturer now, she learned most of her English in England, and she almost jumped out of her skin when she said "black sheep", cuz there was one black girl in the class. None of us copped on what she was going on about for a few minutes! And the girl just laughed at her :P

sensibleken

I've heard god said on american day time tv plenty of times, lets not start creating things to get offended about..

the_syco

A new edition replaces the 'N word' with 'slave'

LoL. So now every black person in the book is now a slave?

Nodin

sensibleken wrote: »

Is that baa baa black sheep thing actually true though? or is it one of those nonsense daily mail stories like the one about europe regulating the bendyness of bananas against the will of brits.

..its one of the nonsense daily mail stories like the one about europe regulating the bendyness of bananas against the will of brits. Its been appearing since some other tabloid made it up in the 1980's.

amacca

Yes PC has gone way too far...the lunatics are in the process of taking over the asylum.

rabble rabble bring back the cat o nine tails etc:D

I actually mean the above by the way. Its not pc to punish people properly for committing crime anymore either in case it would hurt their feelings. Much better to shunt them into overcrowded criminal academies. sure its not their fault they like to gangbang OAPs...just look at the environment they grew up in.

Aseth

It is. And it's very one sided. It seems that being white, European/American and christian means you should apologize to everyone who isn't - for everything.

Cantona's Collars

the_syco wrote: »

LoL. So now every black person in the book is now a slave?

They're not slaves-they are voluntary workers with a penchant for bondage.

Will they ban packets of Minstrels next (yummy) in case thats offensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgd8tzct3ZY

jester77

It amazes me how people can get so easily offended by the most trivial of stuff. I think we need a court of common sense and let these idiots take their cases there so that everyone else can laugh at them.

amacca

amyputz wrote: »

.the one that stands out in my mind the most is she wasn't allowed to say "brain-storm" for fear of offending the disabled children. Instead she had to say "thought-shower"...

Thought-shower! classic

wonder how long one would get away with mental-attack, thought-tourettes or cognisance-ejaculation

sensibleken

amacca wrote: »

Yes PC has gone way too far...the lunatics are in the process of taking over the asylum.

rabble rabble bring back the cat o nine tails etc:D

I actually mean the above by the way. Its not pc to punish people properly for committing crime anymore either in case it would hurt their feelings. Much better to shunt them into overcrowded criminal academies. sure its not their fault they like to gangbang OAPs...just look at the environment they grew up in.

Says who?

who actually are these PC brigade I keep hearing about. It seems more and more like an imagined enemy.

FatherLen

sensibleken wrote: »

Says who?

who actually are these PC brigade I keep hearing about. It seems more and more like an imagined enemy.

they are anywhere and everywhere just ready to pop out and chastise you for saying a racist joke. they are watching....................

Irish Guitarist

sensibleken wrote: »

I've heard god said on american day time tv plenty of times, lets not start creating things to get offended about..

As I mentioned above I heard the word edited out of an episode of King Of Queens a couple of years ago. I have no idea why it was edited out but I assumed they were following American guidelines. I may have been wrong about that but someone decided to edit the word out.

Cantona's Collars

The PC brigade are the loons that appear in the media to defend criminals because they are 'misunderstood',they have infiltrated positions in various organisations and serve no purpose than think of bizzare rules on what we can say and do.

I remember a few years ago Gerry Ryan was discussing a child abuse case saying he would castrate anyone that did it to his kids,some bleeding heart pc'er was on and nearly fainted claiming he couldn't say that about another human.They preach tolerance yet crush our traditions for fear of offending someone.

Frankie Boyle is their sworn enemy.....fact.

sensibleken

FatherLen wrote: »

they are anywhere and everywhere just ready to pop out and chastise you for saying a racist joke. they are watching....................

I think thats whats genuinely believed. Its just like the reds under the beds stuff during the cold war. tiny isolated insodents of stupidity = massive global conspiracy against free speech!

even this story 'dozens of schools', how many dozen? out of the millions of schools in the US. hardly worth mentioning if you werent a paper that gets most of its readership in the UK by exploiting peoples prejudices about minorities.

amacca

sensibleken wrote: »

Says who?

who actually are these PC brigade I keep hearing about. It seems more and more like an imagined enemy.

I cant point you to an actual physical location you can find all of them in the one place at the one time (mores the pity)

They are well spread out which makes them hard to pinpoint but if you really want to meet them you will have to make them come to you.

I suggest making a relatively innocuous comment which could be construed as either (racist/anti religious or touching upon some hot topic of the day) in the media or somewhere inappropriate like a school etc and then sit back and watch them crawl out from under the rocks bleating all the way to whomever can actually stand to listen to them.

PapaQuebec

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twinQuins

I think it's important to get a common definition of what, exactly, constitutes "PC". Otherwise, we'll all be arguing our own version which is rather pointless.

I will say this: political correctness is not just a label to slap on to whatever you don't like. Using political correctness to refer to defending the rights of criminals is like using racism to refer to people who are against coursing. The two are completely unrelated.

Nodin

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"Ruralshire" is not a real place.

PapaQuebec

"Nodin" is not your real name!