Is there a place for Irish hip hop?

fakearms123

Okay so The Rubberbandits are considered a sort of irish comedy folk rap duo, I suppose you can compare their act in similarity but non in talent of course to Flight of the Conchords, with Flight of the Conchords obviously being much more talented and universal but you know what I mean. Now the Rubberbandits have kind of paved the way for Irish hip hop to be accepted main stream in the Irish media and they are getting a lot of air time be it tv, radio or newspaper.

Now I get onto my point, because of this "opening the door" for Irish hip hop do you think that we will see a lot more of Irish rapping to come from some serious "artists" and I use the word artist very loosely. Could anyone here come to accept Irish hip hop as popular music here in Ireland? Before you make your mind up watch/listen to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSC7IesQBXQ

johnn

No.

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Nodin

fakearms123 wrote: »

Is there a place for Irish hip hop?:

Yep. The bin.

fonecrusher1

im not looking at that video. Its looks embarrassing enough where its stopped.

WesternZulu

That video is terrible.

Don't think the Irish can pull off the whole hip hop thing without looking like an ass.

johnn

I didn't understand a word of that "Rap", So this is what dole scroungers are up to while i'm at work and they're meant to be out looking for work.

Minstrel27

fakearms123 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSC7IesQBXQ

they should be put down, boyyyyyyyyyyyy

Pete M.

of course there is boyee

Feck the auld begrudgery
with tunez that are so rubbery
with loads of dope reference
may not be your preference

af_thefragile

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

im not looking at that video. Its looks embarrassing enough where its stopped.

Knacker rap > Chav rap??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a5_WYP6U-M

Plug

Only in Limerick citaaaaaa.

Oranage2

It seems that Irish "Hip hop" is just about hating gards, smoking hash and buying a snickers bar. If they rapped about something believable (not shooting 5 n*ggers and and sex with 5 "hoes" all at the same time) with decent prodution not just jonno on the beat box then Irish hip hop might make it into the top 100, a big might!

RobbieTheRobber

Thee was an irish Hip/hop duo that were quite good
Messiah J & the Expert

didnt really ever get much attention and last I heard they were taking a break
http://messiahjandtheexpert.com/

RobbieTheRobber

Oranage2 wrote: »

It seems that Irish "Hip hop" is just about hating gards, smoking hash and buying a snickers bar. If they rapped about something believable (not shooting 5 n*ggers and and sex with 5 "hoes" all at the same time) with decent prodution not just jonno on the beat box then Irish hip hop might make it into the top 100, a big might!

Thats more the genre (Wannabe) Gangstar rap than Hip Hop, which is crap no matter what country it comes from.

JayEnnis

af_thefragile wrote: »

Knacker rap > Chav rap??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a5_WYP6U-M

It's like an advert for JD sports.

fonecrusher1

yo yo my name is mickey & im no fool
ladies think im a sh!t...that i look real cool
look at me da wrong way...i give ya a slap
then...you'll be havin a nap?
don't give me no crap
i'll give ya da clap
now i gotta go fap

af_thefragile

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

Thee was an irish Hip/hop duo that were quite good
Messiah J & the Expert

didnt really ever get much attention and last I heard they were taking a break
http://messiahjandtheexpert.com/

They are actually quite good!!

fakearms123

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

Thee was an irish Hip/hop duo that were quite good
Messiah J & the Expert

didnt really ever get much attention and last I heard they were taking a break
http://messiahjandtheexpert.com/

Sorry mate I had a listen and I can verify that they are sh*te, probably best that they take a break.

RobbieTheRobber

af_thefragile wrote: »

They are actually quite good!!

Indeed they were

Also for this thread they are going to disappoint those who wont to slag hip/hop as they never talk about violence or hoes.

Just good rhymes (messiah J) put to a very good sound by a producer DJ (The expert) also for their last live shows they were using two guitaists which was very good to watch.

af_thefragile

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

Indeed they were

Also for this thread they are going to disappoint those who wont to slag hip/hop as they never talk about violence or hoes.

Just good rhymes (messiah J) put to a very good sound by a producer DJ (The expert) also for their last live shows they were using two guitaists which was very good to watch.

Its the DJ/Producer type hip hop I like the most.

Realllllllly don't like the gangsta hip hop which only talks about b*ches and hoes and popping yo a*s and drugs and all of that crap.
Don't like Kayne and Timbaland style over produced crap either.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

I really don't think rapping goes with an inner city Dubin accept. It just comes off as beign too whiney.

tehjimmeh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O75ecQp3mkE

liah

Did Republic of Loose not already do this whole 'paving the way for Irish hiphop' thing?

fakearms123

liah wrote: »

Did Republic of Loose not already do this whole 'paving the way for Irish hiphop' thing?

No liah.

liah

fakearms123 wrote: »

No liah.

Strange, they seemed pretty popular when I was there.

fakearms123

liah wrote: »

Strange, they seemed pretty popular when I was there.

Things have changed, we now use rashers as elbow pads and we now consider a spoon an animal, we even milk it. So you don't know everything :cool:

Remmy

I like hip hop/rap but I dont think it sounds too good with an Irish accent.Maybe its just because we are so conditioned to hearing rap with an american accent or even an east end london accent that anything else just sounds kinda alien.

shofukan

IMO Irish Rap & Hip Hop works as parody or comedy.
As legitimate music.. Not so much.

Laisurg

Nodin wrote: »

Yep. The bin.

you beat me to it >:(

Oranage2

liah wrote: »

Did Republic of Loose not already do this whole 'paving the way for Irish hiphop' thing?

They have slightly more music credibility than the coronas and blizards but overall they're still pretty p!iss poor.

Good live however!

liah

Remmy wrote: »

I like hip hop/rap but I dont think it sounds too good with an Irish accent.Maybe its just because we are so conditioned to hearing rap with an american accent or even an east end london accent that anything else just sounds kinda alien.

I'd argue German actually works pretty well with rap/hiphop (there's a massive scene for it over here):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP5B1UmgHfc

Then again, I just really like this video :pac:

Laisurg

WesternZulu wrote: »

That video is terrible.

Don't think the Irish can pull off the whole hip hop thing without looking like an ass.

We cant look any worse to the rest of the world anymore, we can only improve :P

RobbieTheRobber

liah wrote: »

I'd argue German actually works pretty well with rap/hiphop (there's a massive scene for it over here):

Then again, I just really like this video :pac:

There is also a very big French hip hop scene but I think most of this is built on the african immigrant population and their descendants and is obviously centered around paris.

Happyman42

The Rubberbandits like the X-Factory have only proved; that nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of Joe Public.:rolleyes:

Carl Sagan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHk9SCQ2bik

"A SONG FROM ME NEW MIXTAPE (STR8: DE MIXTAPE)"

Love the chorus :pac:

Remmy

Carl Sagan wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHk9SCQ2bik

"A SONG FROM ME NEW MIXTAPE (STR8: DE MIXTAPE)"

Love the chorus :pac:

That sounds alot like damien dempsey

Dennis the Stone

Tom O'C was pretty good.

dr.bollocko

Moved from AH.

seanybiker

Course there is a place for hip hop /rap in Ireland. why shouldnt there be. not everyone likes it but some people do.
Some of the battles on DFI do be great.
Ould Redzer battling against Sensa in England was priceless.
Its the same as anything, if ya dont like it dont bleeding look at it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87ZezEdxrVQ

pickarooney

Anyone remember Scary Eire?

seanybiker

pickarooney wrote: »

Anyone remember Scary Eire?

howld yer wisht.

THall04

MC Dubh at his best........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOqJrWuGCGk

Not quite at his best...probably the most cringeworthy video on youtube....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfk7B8t1R4E&feature=fvw

Nolanger

Infomatics' album is good. But Spiral's is not!

boidey

Havn't seen myself but he is meant to be a good live act

http://soundcloud.com/wile-man

Nolanger

pickarooney wrote: »

Anyone remember Scary Eire?

Yep, they got booed at a U2 support gig?

teekayd25

+1 on Messiah J and the Expert, Bloodrush was a great tune, and made it onto a film soundtrack.

So did this song, another one of Irish hip-hop's better moments, IMO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaoilp_XJl0

teekayd25

By the way, I trust everyone's aware of Tralee's version of the Rubberbandits?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf0TrQczmKY

seanybiker

THall04 wrote: »

MC Dubh at his best........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOqJrWuGCGk

Not quite at his best...probably the most cringeworthy video on youtube....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfk7B8t1R4E&feature=fvw

He only lives a few minutes away from me. He's actually sound but yeah he should have stayed at home that day lol

seachto7

teekayd25 wrote: »

By the way, I trust everyone's aware of Tralee's version of the Rubberbandits?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf0TrQczmKY

Terrible stuff. A bad knock off of the Rubberbandits, sorry.....

partyndbs

4 years in blackrock then i went to clongoes im smokin pot but its not as if my mom knows

irsh rap is terrible i dont care how sum pov in ballymun grew up...ur life is dull and boring...why wud i want to hear your music lol

seachto7

These guys aren't bad. When it's done well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ2cv75G9i0&feature=related

Saw these guys live too, and they were a "band", as in they played instruments as well as rapping. Kind of like the Roots or BEastie Boys.

People don't seem to have a problem with French language rap, such as MC Solaar, or UK rap such as Roots Manuva? Is it because people can't take white Irish people rapping, or is just ok if they are black, be they American, UK, or French? Or should they come from big cities in order to have the "street cred"?

I mean, people don't have a problem with Irish rock or metal bands, some of which is very American sounding. (The Answer being one rock band..) As long as people use their own accents and are honest about what they are singing about, then I don't see a problem with it.
I suppose rap is very urban American, which maybe why it gets ridiculed outside the USA.

ricero

no its so cringe worthy irish rap should be put down. why do they style themselves on american rappers straight out of compton ha its like lads ur pale boggers from munster stop this ****. then you have the dublin scanger rappers the likes of redzer pure bollox i dont wana hear about your da on the dole and your mates doing gear its boring. at least the brits have good rappers