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Not paying enough tax

  • 29-12-2010 3:36am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26


    Hi Guys,
    What are my options if a car I am interested in buying is taxed as having a smaller engine than it really has?
    Thanks


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭racso1975


    Well there are 2 options and i'm pretty sure you can guess them.
    Let up know how the moral dilema goes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,412 ✭✭✭andyseadog


    if it has an undeclared engine transplant, and you crash and god forbid injure or kill someone... well, best case scenario spend the rest of your life in crippling debt, worst case prison.

    edit : neither option seems worth the money saved over a years tax


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 paddysaab


    What I meant was, How do I go about getting it taxed properly?
    I'm assuming it was an import and has its original engine.
    It is NCT'd which I don't understand because it would be tested with the wrong set of parameters


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    paddysaab wrote: »
    It is NCT'd which I don't understand because it would be tested with the wrong set of parameters

    Diesel (nasp or turbo) or petrol & pre or post 1993 are the only parameters me thinks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭Dermo123


    paddysaab wrote: »
    Hi Guys,
    What are my options if a car I am interested in buying is taxed as having a smaller engine than it really has?
    Thanks

    Well paddysaab, if you want to do the right thing, do not buy it.
    If you do really want it and want to tax it correctly, you will have to declare an engine change and they will look for certification from the person that did the transplant and seeing as nobody did actually change the engine if I understand the situation correctly then you would have to get some sort of opinion of correct installation. All of this would be hassle and money.
    So you asked what your options are....
    a. Walk away and find one that has the correct tax details
    b. Buy it and take your chances on the cheaper tax (insured with bigger engine)
    c. Ask seller to correct its tax status before you buy it
    d. Buy it with the cost reduced to cover the hassle and expense of the work you need to do to get its status fully legally correct.

    I have seen plenty of cars advertised boasting about motor tax tax being cheaper than it should normally be.
    The following is an example
    http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1651222

    My opinion is that the government has completely overtaxed bigger engines and the savings can be so big that the temptation to underdeclare is huge. I would not judge a person too harshly on the motor tax side of things if they were paying €600 instead of €1200 say. At least they are contributing. I would frown more on the person that totally avoids it.
    However I would be quite adament that a car is insured as per its actual engine size.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,200 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    that car say nothing about cheaper tax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭Dermo123


    that car say nothing about cheaper tax.

    OK your right it does not but what size engine does car really have and what does the ad say? I'm assuming you know your cars?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭Tea 1000


    Let me guess - DC2 Integra Type R, but 1.6 in the log book?
    My opinion on these matters is simple - if someone along the history of a cars ownership is a character dodgy enough to pull a stunt like this, then what kind of life has the car had? How carefully was it maintained? Is it genuine in every other way? Chances are, probably not. Go find a genuine example with a good clean history, fully documented. Then you'll have no need to worry. Life's too short for looking over your shoulder.


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