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Galvinised...an apology for the Sunday Game?

  • 28-12-2010 10:33pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭


    Ok, Il kick it off, Paul Galvin comes across well on this I think, Is this RTEs apology for the Sunday Game debacle? Cmon the hate crew, lets hear it.....


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  • Subscribers Posts: 16,610 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    it's a decent watch, pity there isn't a bit more about training/games etc, but if he hadn't got himself banned I'm sure there would have been.

    nothing to do with the Sunday Game, sure they were making the program for 6 months before that even happened.

    He comes across well enough alright.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭wixfjord


    As ive said in another thread, he's not a normal Kerry footballer, and no angel but I've changed my opinion of him.
    He seems to be intelligent and ambitious, and recognises the fact he can be a dirty so and so.

    Great footballer, bad fashion sense but it's characters like him that make the GAA interesting.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭wixfjord


    diarmuid79 wrote: »
    THe hack of him and the state of his clothes

    Think that comment encapsulates perfectly a fair proportion of the GAA.
    Good man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭diarmuid79


    wixfjord wrote: »
    Think that comment encapsulates perfectly a fair proportion of the GAA.
    Good man.
    I might be a bit unfair he is a great footballer


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭wixfjord


    Left out the word "normal" in a previous post.
    Not going to respond to that bile though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭An Citeog


    I've had to delete a few posts already and issue ban a poster. Any more crap and I'll just lock the thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭diarmuid79


    An Citeog wrote: »
    I've had to delete a few posts already and issue ban a poster. Any more crap and I'll just lock the thread.
    Sorry about that it wont happen again:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭n32


    what is peoples problem with paul galvin? I m a gaa man and i think its refreshing to see a player who is willing to express himself instead of the lads who are permanently wearing the county polo shirt giving the same politically correct answers to avoid giving the opposition any extra motivation. he s not a professional so what he does in his spare time away from training and matches is his own business. he does the business on the field almost every time. i m a cork man and it pains me to say it but he is an outstanding footballer, he single handedly won the game for kerry in the pairc this year. anyone who plays the game will know that to playhis type of all action game, putting your head on the line to win a break, you need a serious streak of lunacy in you. he s not harming anyone with the life he leads away from the game so good luck to him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭johnr1


    Actually, Im bemused as to whats supposed to be wrong with the clothes, nothing extreme there, about one item I wouldnt wear myself, and that because I dont have his physique. When you think of Beckham and his saarong.....


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,610 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    wixfjord wrote: »
    Think that comment encapsulates perfectly a fair proportion of the GAA.
    Good man.

    I don't think thats true at all, your average GAA man couldn't give a flying feck about what someone wears or how they act off the field. There are plenty of players around with dodgy haircuts, tattoos and bad clothes.

    Thats for the tabloids and the other 'meeja' (including other boards threads) to make stuff up and write bitter bile.

    I've absolutely no time for him when he does something silly on the field, but he gets his ban, serves his time and thats the end of it. The rest of it is meaningless stuff that no-one will remember in a couple of years.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭LaHaine


    Have to say that I really enjoyed it.

    He's not your stereotypical footballer but sure what harm. Cant argue with his achievements.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,742 ✭✭✭blackbelt


    A good documentary,I enjoyed it anyway.I thought Galvin came across quite well for the most part. He's well entitled to be into fashion etc and who is anybody to begrudge him that.What he does in his spare time is his business even if his dress sense is odd.:)

    I suppose the whole documentary/program was an opportunity for him to tell his side of things and everything he went through.Seems like the main issue is with his bans over his scuffles with Cadogan.I thought more would have been made of the Paddy Russell incident to be fair.

    He does seem to have a chip on his shoulder with regard to some of the Sunday Game panel,moreso Anthony Twohill and Kevin McStay.I think he has regrets moreso that those incidents occurred rather than what he did.Thats my perception anyway.

    PS. Would love to see him line out for the Kerry Hurlers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 nedeenbnn


    I wonder is he friendly with Eddie Brennan ... that was a nice touch of class!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    if he stuck to the football - grand

    but he has to get involved in so much other stuff on field, and now mouthing off the field

    if you're coaching kids you are teaching them to respect referees and the opponents - then he goes and slaps a ref, sticks his hand into a lads mouth and is generally dirty around the pitch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 nedeenbnn


    Agreed - he needs to be way more respectful on the pitch.

    Interesting though ... when you look at the support Paul O'Connell got after smakcing a guy in the mouth with a forearm and the abuse Galvin gets ... people may say he did not mean it and he's not htat kind of guy but in the end the guy he hit had to go off becuase of it ... I do not for an instance believe O'Connell to be a dirty player ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    Its funny there was no mention of his love life, I found that odd.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 935 ✭✭✭samsemtex


    A friend of a friend used to go out with him. He's not gay if thats what you are trying to suggest. A lot of people seem to be insinuating that. Apparently he is completely in love with himself alright though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭daddydick


    Enjoyed the show...it was a good insight into the life of one of the characters of our sports

    However two parts really pissed me off

    1) Dismissing Corks chances at the start when the Sunday game team were analysing. "Cork arn't a great team....they havn't won on yet" etc etc...Sorry Paul but they were by far the strongest team on paper going into the Championship and went on to prove that. The Sunday Game team have every right to predict as they see fit, based on the facts. He keeps going on about his 4 all irelands...sure DJ Carey has 5 AI's...doesn't mean KK are going to win this year.

    2) His dismissive comments towards the Sunday Game team. In fairness all they do is their job...which is to analyse the game as they see fit. There is no witch-hunt. You stick your fingers into an opponents mount (twice - once when grappling on the ground in Parc Ui Rinn in the league) then you are going to get picked up on it. He wasnt the first (Colin Lynch 3 month suspension as far back as 1998 when he pulled like a lunatic on everything he saw prior to throw-in).

    There's no need to start spouting off how much disrespect he has towards them with the classic one-liner "sure they only have two all-ireland medals between them". That really pissed me off. We all play the game and are entitled to an opinion, regardless of what county we were born in or how many AI's we have. If Galvin thinks that Anthony Tohill (one of the best players of his generation) isn't entitled to comment on The Sunday Game because he hasn't the requisite number of AI medals then sorry, but he has issues.

    The above is akin to him saying that someone like Tony Browne is not in a position to comment on the performance of a player like Tipp's Gearoid Ryan as Ryan has one AI, and Browne has none. Nonsense. His head is stuck up his ars€...he is very lucky he is from Kerry, otherwise he may have no AI to spout on about. It wasnt you that won the AI Paul, it was the the team which had the likes of Dara, Gooch, Declan O'Sullivan, Moynihan etc etc. You are lucky to be involved in a team with the likes of the above involved.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,971 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    samsemtex wrote: »
    A friend of a friend used to go out with him. He's not gay if thats what you are trying to suggest. A lot of people seem to be insinuating that. Apparently he is completely in love with himself alright though.
    Maybe he's straight/bi-sexual - I don't really know, nor do I really care. Galvin is a car crash waiting to happen. We all know why he has changed his job. We all know he is a talented footballer but feels the need to do outlandishly stupid things on the pitch - which he knows is wrong , but, still does them. It would be ridiculous in the extreme to believe he won't be involved in another 'altercation' next year - be it with a player, official or maybe even a fan!
    There is no doubting his ability to turn a game/atmosphere on his own but he is equally capable of causing a national media frenzy for unsportsmanlike behaviour.
    I really do hope he has a 'quiet' season - but just like the media - I'm waiting for the next car crash to happen!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    daddydick wrote: »
    He wasnt the first (Colin Lynch 3 month suspension as far back as 1998 when he pulled like a lunatic on everything he saw prior to throw-in).

    Colin Lynch wasn't suspended for what happened at the throw in, he was suspended for something that wasn't caught on camera but someone in the crowd saw which happened during the course of the game. Also, he didn't pull before the ball was thrown in


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭daddydick


    Clareman wrote: »
    Colin Lynch wasn't suspended for what happened at the throw in, he was suspended for something that wasn't caught on camera but someone in the crowd saw which happened during the course of the game. Also, he didn't pull before the ball was thrown in

    Well the point I'm trying to get across is that Galvin wasn't the first person to be stung by video evidence

    Also, if we're going to be pedantic, Lynch was banned for "repeated striking with the hurley"...he struck T Browne in the side of the leg, A Daly in the foot and P Queally in the back of the leg...he was a man possessed that day and should have been sent of there and then. Fair enough he didnt pull before the ball went in but he pulled on Browne before the ball came anywhere near himself and Browne (as the below video evidence proves!!!)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsHVNjA8SfQ


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Common misperception of the Colin Lynch suspension was that he was banned for what happened at the start of the match, he wasn't, he was suspended for a separate incident that happened during the game that wasn't caught on camera.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    Interesting documentary.

    Galvin is not perfect, probably a bit overly self obsessed but lord god i'd listen to him any day before other GAA 'celebrities' like Babs and Paudie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Dots1982


    People who call galvin gay are just dumbasses or squares, do tight trousers make Russell brand gay?

    The thing I took from the Galvin documentary is that he’s angling for a job in TV. That’s why he done the documentary, to give himself a higher profile and catch the eye of people who make tv shows to see if they would think he has a natural gift for being on tele. He might do, I’m not a woman so I can’t say but if there is any on the trend would they watch a show he was presenting just because of how he looks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    samsemtex wrote: »
    A friend of a friend used to go out with him. He's not gay if thats what you are trying to suggest. A lot of people seem to be insinuating that. Apparently he is completely in love with himself alright though.

    Loads of gay men I know dated women and sure whats wrong with being gay anyway?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    Why are there people on here insinuating that he is though...all they really have to go by is how he dresses, besides that there is nothing to suggest that he is gay (not that the cloths he wears is a reason enough to think he's gay anyway).

    Would anyone here like if people were questioning their sexuality on an internet forum.

    There is nothing wrong with being gay but I don't think that it's right that people here are suggesting that he is for something as pathetic as the way the man dresses.

    It was the same with Ciaran McDonald or any other footballer that doesn't conform to what a GAA player should look like or act.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,742 ✭✭✭blackbelt


    Its a common misconception that if you are a man into fashion,you are gay.Maybe that side of the documentary was a step in dismissing that perception but I would agree that the doc may have been used as a profile upper with regard to a possible tv job.

    I also thought it was interesting that he was quite quick to dismiss the journalists and reporters asking him about his job situation.Could have possibly been some opportunities there.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    copacetic wrote: »
    He comes across well enough alright.

    +1

    Seems like a decent,passionate,focussed athlete and person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    I just get a vibe from him plus I think it would be cool to have more gay sportsmen in Ireland so maybe theres a certain amount of wishful thinking on my part.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭roashter


    Am just agreeing with Clareman on the Colin Lynch incident.
    His suspension was not for what happened during the throw-in -and he may well have deserved the line for that alone -(and I think Ollie Baker actually got the hardest slap).

    He was suspended for an off the ball incident with Tony Browne which happened I think during the time when a row broke out that led to the dismissal of both Brian Lohan & Michael White.

    The thing that really annoyed Clare fans was that no official actually saw or reported the incident and neither was it picked up by TV. Instead, Lynch was banned based on the evidence of an "independent witness" who watched the game from the stands and was "asked" by munster council to provide a statement.
    I think the vote was actually tied with the chairman and future president Sean Kelly from Kerry who cast the deciding vote to implement the ban. I'm pretty sure that I heard Kelly on some documentary saying that it was one of his few regrets while in the GAA (but not 100% on this).


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    I AM GETTING TIRED OF SOME OF THE BILE BEING SPOUTED ON HERE, any more questioning a players sexuality or hearsay about things that happened in the past will lead to bans


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    I thought that he came across very badly, a "poor me" if ever there was one.He has burnt his boats on the teaching front-it's "boring" and with his sense of fashion, I don't see him making a living there either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,087 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    He's a godsend for the GAA. He's probably the most well known GAA player now. You would think fans of GAA would love all this attention.

    But obviously a grown man that's comfortable with himself and doesn't conform scares people.

    The GAA really isn't an institution that likes any form of change.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    I've always liked Galvin before I watched this documantary but I thought he came across as narcissistic, self obsessed and at times almost delusional in this. On the one hand he complains about unwanted media attention, yet at the same time he takes part in a documentary that appears designed to raise his media profile. You can't have it both ways. He goes on about not being interested in whats in the papers yet he allows himseld be filmed reading the Sunday World, dissecting the artcile in great detail and appearing to be appalled by whats in it.

    He came across as a man of many contradictions last night. I don't really care what kind of clothes he wears (though the part where he cam onto the training pitch with the socks and boots over the skinny jeans was absolutely hilarious) or what he does in hi spare time and any man who plays the game to the level he does deserves respect, but I wouldn't have half as much time for him after watching him last night tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭boarddotie


    I never liked Galvin but all my reasons for disliking him were based on what the media and tabloids have fed to me. I was hoping for some car crash watching when I watched Galvinised (based on his Late Late interview) but anything he said on the Late Late was the juciest from the programme!

    I think he came across very well indeed and I must say I dont dislike him anymore.

    I just say 'let him off' and good luck to him really! Like a previous poster said the GAA gang are known for sitting on the fence and towing the team line (and of course the uniform of county polo shirt with jeans) so Galvin makes a nice change to that!

    I think the younger and newer generation of players (maybe all at undergae level now) will be more like Galvin as the years progress. And I dont mean in relation to disobedience as that is a whole seperate issue. But in relation to being slightly more flambouyant! The youngsters are all part of a tabloid realtity TV show culture so I am sure we will see better dressers and more articulate GAA players coming up through the ranks soon!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    He came across ok in the program. Like a lot of the tough guys that we've discussed and debated over on this forum, he can be a good player when he puts his mind to it. He showed that in 2009. It was good to see him admit that he has his flaws and take some responsibility for his actions. Writing off Cork was a bad thing. Cork have been one of the best teams in the country for a number of years. It would have been bad even if they had failed to win the All-Ireland this year. They may not have won an All-Ireland when he made the comment, but it was still bad form to dismiss them. Having a go at the Sunday Game is wrong too. The Sunday Game cannot show video of incidents that did not happen. It is the players involved in those incidents, not the Sunday Game that are to blame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭DH2K9


    To me it seems to be all about him. He said he set himself the goal of Player of the year. What sort of team player says things like that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Dots1982


    DH2K9 wrote: »
    To me it seems to be all about him. He said he set himself the goal of Player of the year. What sort of team player says things like that?

    The kind of player who wants to do the most possible to help their team you....nevermind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 in your face


    No such thing as bad publicity. He's in the public's eye for more than his football talent. He's exactly where he wants to be. No matter what people think of him outside the field, its all win for Galvin. Love him or hate him we're talking about him. Job done Paul.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 RightHalfBack


    thought it was quite an interesting programme alright, but i would have preferred to see a documentary showing one of the top GAA players focusing on their Training & preparation for games and showing how they balance their GAA, Work & Family lives.. This might sound boring to some but if done properly would be fascinating.

    I like Galvin and love to watch him play but in fairness is the fact that he is interested in fashion, has a few tattoos and likes to visit NYC supposed to be amazing or shocking? I dont think so..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three


    DH2K9 wrote: »
    To me it seems to be all about him. He said he set himself the goal of Player of the year. What sort of team player says things like that?

    More chance of him getting idiot of the year for another dumb on field incident!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭bobsoice23


    There wouldn't be half as much attention on Galvin if he played for some back arse county that never got anywhere.And if you call yourself a GAA fan you should judge him soley by what he does on the pitch and not get sucked into this tabloid crap.Take a look at the premiership...it's a circus because every aspect of their lives is scrutinised.If he was from Dublin he'd be billed as the greatest thing since sliced bread.He said booing spurs him on anyway so keep up the booing here and he'll have another medal to add to his collection next year ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three


    bobsoice23 wrote: »
    There wouldn't be half as much attention on Galvin if he played for some back arse county that never got anywhere.And if you call yourself a GAA fan you should judge him soley by what he does on the pitch and not get sucked into this tabloid crap.Take a look at the premiership...it's a circus because every aspect of their lives is scrutinised.If he was from Dublin he'd be billed as the greatest thing since sliced bread.He said booing spurs him on anyway so keep up the booing here and he'll have another medal to add to his collection next year ;)

    Would that be fish hooking an opponent and swiping the refs notebook?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭bobsoice23


    Things happen in the heat of battle...they'll live,how many all Ireland's do you have again?He probably has more himself than your county does in the last 20 years.In fact Im sure he does haha


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    Saw his Late Late interview and felt that he could forget about any media career.

    Not articulate...Tubbs had to help him out on numerous occasions.

    Clearly a very mixed up individual who thinks the fame he has achieved (deservedly) by his prowess as a Gaelic Footballer will lead on to other things in the fashion and media business.

    From what I saw and heard - forget it Paul - stick to the day job.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 soflynn


    He's our very own Gavin Henson, Clareman who cares if his sexual preference is discussed here. He is in the public eye, By doing that doc he has opened the flood gates to public scrutiny sexual preference and all.

    Bottom line he behaves like a scumbag on the pitch, and then he does a flowery doc and we all love him.

    Give me a break, we will be forced to listen to his fashion blubbering for the next year or so until the next media whore to come out of the GAA. He looks like every other lad going around in tight jeans that he got out of a high street shop. NEXT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭bobsoice23


    No one's forcing you to listen to anything Lynn and thank god I didn't have the misfortune of listening to you blabber on..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    You can see where the spoilt brat streak comes from after the conversation with his mother about the tantrum he threw when he wasnt getting the shoes,bet that happend in mick o connells house all the time.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    soflynn wrote: »
    Clareman who cares if his sexual preference is discussed here.

    I do, and the charter does, please read it before you post again

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=79500


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭factnee


    Enjoyed the programme. That said while he is undoubtedly an interesting character, he came across as being very immature. He could barely look the interviewer in the eye just as he could barely look Tubridy in the eye on the LLS. He refused on numerous occasions to mention Eoin Cadogan by name. He dissed his teaching career and was vague as to what plans he has for the future - sounds as if he just got a bit tired of it and threw his toys out of the pram. There is structure and routine in every job which none of us enjoy but nonetheless get on with. His immaturity was further displayed when he claimed that he texted Colm O'Rourke because he mentioned that he was no altarboy. His obsession with the the print and broadcast media and his microanalysis of what they say about him is totally at odds with his assertion that he never listens to them or pays any attention to what they say. Finally no commentator or analyst ever said that Cork were a great team - the Sunday game panel just said at the start of last year that they would win the All Ireland in 2010. His rant about Cork not being great was bizarre and irrelevant.


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