cant get digital tv stations

Hi all,

i have a Technika 32 inch with mpeg 4 cam card and wideband 21-68 aerial

As the title says i cant receive the Digital TV stations but can receive the 8 radio channels no bother when i do an auto tune.

The radio channels come in at 45 and there is a hesitation when it gets to 54 but it don't bring in any tv stations.

what could i be doing wrong? the 4 Irish channels coming in no bother on analog but obviously different frequencies. my signal comes from mount leinster

watty

The CAM card will damage your TV. They run too hot. Also NO CAM adaptor can ever make a TV or Setbox be Saorview compatible. http://www.saortv.info/terrestrial-saorview/the-black-list/

You need a set-box or a different TV.

If the CAM was advertised for Ireland you are entitled to refund. You are probably entitled to refund on TV if bought inside last two years. Tesco's "Freeview is not available in Ireland" notice is irrelevent.
http://www.techtir.ie/blog/cinocat4/no-dtt-get-money-back

Tesco "what ever number of day" refund policy isn't relevent, the limit is two years on a TV. They have to ring head office who almost always refund. You are entitled to refund, repair or replacement (their choice), not credit note.

fat-tony

Have you ever received the digital TV channels or is this your first attempt? It would appear that the CAM is not converting the MPEG-4 to MPEG-2. In any case it won't work for RTE Two TV which is broadcasting using a HD resolution. There is a temporary version of RTE Two which is using a form of SD resolution at the moment, but is due to be switched off in April.

CAMs are not recommended as a long-term solution. You need a set-top box or Saorview compliant TV.

watty

watty wrote: »

The CAM card will damage your TV. They run too hot. Also NO CAM adaptor can ever make a TV or Setbox be Saorview compatible. http://www.saortv.info/terrestrial-saorview/the-black-list/

You need a set-box or a different TV.

If the CAM was advertised for Ireland you are entitled to refund. You are probably entitled to refund on TV if bought inside last two years. Tesco's "Freeview is not available in Ireland" notice is irrelevent.
http://www.techtir.ie/blog/cinocat4/no-dtt-get-money-back

Tesco "what ever number of day" refund policy isn't relevent, the limit is two years on a TV. They have to ring head office who almost always refund. You are entitled to refund, repair or replacement (their choice), not credit note.

fat-tony wrote: »

Have you ever received the digital TV channels or is this your first attempt? It would appear that the CAM is not converting the MPEG-4 to MPEG-2. In any case it won't work for RTE Two TV which is broadcasting using a HD resolution. There is a temporary version of RTE Two which is using a form of SD resolution at the moment, but is due to be switched off in April.

CAMs are not recommended as a long-term solution. You need a set-top box or Saorview compliant TV.

Happy Xmas and thanks for the responses. You both right about the cam. i think it requires an encyption card not too unlike the sky card which is non existant, unless we talking about the encryption in stbs or 'saorview' tvs. when we bought the tv back in nov 09, there was no indication of what standard would be used for DTT.

i was aware the hd thing would be problem when it was too late but i thought rte would have introduced HD more gradually then they did.

i would have thought the channels would be at least picked up by the aerial regardless of mpeg 2 or 4? they not even on the epg.

Sponge Bob

Bring it back to Tesco, they should not sell this crap here

Mr McBoatface

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when we bought the tv back in nov 09, there was no indication of what standard would be used for DTT.

The Irish spec was known about at this stage it was published in 2008 if not before. Tesco's and other UK chain stores dumped loads of mpeg2 set in Ireland in the full knowledge they wouldn't won't.

Deleted User wrote: »

i would have thought the channels would be at least picked up by the aerial regardless of mpeg 2 or 4? they not even on the epg.

The Tv channels have a flag on them that identifies them as Mpeg4 so Mpeg2 set do not see them

jobyrne30

jobyrne30 wrote: »

The Irish spec was known about at this stage it was published in 2008 if not before. Tesco's and other UK chain stores dumped loads of mpeg2 set in Ireland in the full knowledge they wouldn't won't.

Ok fair point. perhaps people in the know at that time about digital tv might have had a better idea. Still though they were running the mpeg2 tests to july 08 on my Phillips set.

Sam Russell

Deleted User wrote: »

Ok fair point. perhaps people in the know at that time about digital tv might have had a better idea. Still though they were running the mpeg2 tests to july 08 on my Phillips set.

The retailers were in the know - that is their business. It was Feb 2008 that the definition was first published as definite. (I bought my MPEG2 TV in Jan 2008, unfortunately):mad:

watty

That was DCNER "beauty contest" to sell pay DTT space. They also did MPEG4 and HD at the time. At the time those were branded as political. RTE NL did tests 1997 to 2000. Then current system from 2008. The 2006 to 2008 DCNER so called "trial" was run by BT, not RTE.

watty

Deleted User wrote: »

about the encryption in stbs or 'saorview' tvs. when we bought the tv back in nov 09, there was no indication of what standard would be used for DTT.

You have had TV less than 2 years.
There is no Saorview encryption (Saor = Free, inherently no encryption).

Spec suspected in 2006 or so, definite and Public in 2008. Retailers and Manufactures told.

You have a 100% chance of refund if you are polite and stick to your guns.
No packaging needed. The brand is almost proof of purchase. A credit card statement or cheque would be proof if you have no receipt. It's worth trying to take it back with no proof of purchase as it can only have been bought or stolen from Tesco (own brand).

Sam Russell

Sam Russell wrote: »

The retailers were in the know - that is their business. It was Feb 2008 that the definition was first published as definite. (I bought my MPEG2 TV in Jan 2008, unfortunately):mad:

Problem is my dad bought the TV in Nov 09, and i dunno how they marketed it at the time. I think they were selling 'Freeview' compatible TV's without stating that Freeview could not be received in ROI but i dunno did they state it as Irish DTT compatible also so Tesco might have their arse covered from that point of view.

watty wrote: »

You have had TV less than 2 years.
There is no Saorview encryption (Saor = Free, inherently no encryption).

Is there perhaps, software to ensure Saorview is used compatibly (Saorview STB or TV)? Or is it a case of my CAM being a piece of sh*t and not encoding the MPEG 4 signal?

maxg

The cam has nothing to do with the channel scan. If you get no TV channels in the channel list after a scan your TV is not willing to accept the new service type for the irish channels.

watty

The "CAM" MPEG4 to MPEG2 converter can't Ever do HD channels. RTE2 is part time HD, so always HD transmission. Over the next few years RTE1, TG4, TV3 will go HD also. With no SD simulcast as that wastes space.
It only converts channels the TV can tune. The TV will never tune Channels properly marked as MPEG4.
It has poor quality
It runs too Hot.

Your TV can't be upgraded.
The CAM is useless and can't be upgraded to solve the incompatibility.
The Screen can only be used with Set-boxes or Consoles or Disc players. Get your money back. Tesco Have NOT covered themselves.

You can ONLY use either an Saorview/Irish Digital TV compatible Set-Box or a different TV.