I want an Accord

roosterman71

I've decided I want a Honda Accord. I've been thinking bout it for a while now. The one I fancy is the 2.2 i-DTEC Type S. In blue . I'd like it to be a 2010, or even new. I'd be keeping it for at least 5/6 years, or more. Definitely 5 anyway. I noticed the price of the new ones is down about €1500 since I checked a couple moths ago so I'm even more tempted now.

So tell me why I shouldn't do it? Or should I? Am I crazy?

macroman

My uncle bought a brand new Tourer a few months back, same spec too. Bit pricey but a nice car and well spec'd. Greater outlay compared to its competitors but will hold the value and will probably outlive them anyway :P

Compared to some residual values they hold up well, but you won't be worrying about that if you're holding onto it for a few years. Bear in mind that servicing is a bit pricey at main dealers, worth it though.

If you've got your heart set on one and can afford it go for it

roosterman71

I could gather the required dosh together alright. But ya know yourself, the fear of spending is crippling!! The list of "what ifs" is endless.

pajo1981

Damn, 36k+ for a 2011 type S and 40k+ for an executive.

When did Hondas start being so expensive?

pajo1981

roosterman71 wrote: »

I could gather the required dosh together alright. But ya know yourself, the fear of spending is crippling!! The list of "what ifs" is endless.

If ye have the money, go for it.

Who gives a **** what the begrudgers will think.

macroman

roosterman71 wrote: »

I could gather the required dosh together alright. But ya know yourself, the fear of spending is crippling!! The list of "what ifs" is endless.

Sure every car purchase would have a list of what ifs. I'd recommend visiting here for more info on known issues.

pajo1981 wrote: »

Damn, 36k+ for a 2011 type S and 40k+ for an executive.

When did Hondas start being so expensive?

Since old people with lots of money started buying them :P

roosterman71

Is there better options than the Accord? And don't say Skoda. I don't like the look of them which is a pity cos they are seriously good value.

R.O.R

If you don't mind shelling that sort of cash out, the new Accord is fantastic to drive, and they are generally very reliable.

To be honest, I'd take a new Volvo S60 D3 over an Accord though. Will be some ex. demo's available in January, but the new price is supposed to be going up €2,000 in January so I'm sure the ex. demo's will probably end up around the same price as the new ones are now.

There is a styling pack for the new S60 available for €900. Haven't seen it, but I have ordered one for a driver.

Accord is nice to drive. S60 is fantastic to drive.

roosterman71

Hadn't though of Volvo. I drove the S40 before and liked them. They've a design that grew on me the more I seen them. Whats the price of S60s?

pajo1981

Rooster, if you wait until next year, you'll be able to pick up a 1 yo new model 5 series for type s money.

rusty_racer94

My Dad had a 2.4 i-vtec 2007.
The best Honda owned so far.

R.O.R

roosterman71 wrote: »

Hadn't though of Volvo. I drove the S40 before and liked them. They've a design that grew on me the more I seen them. Whats the price of S60s?

S60 D3 S 32,250
S60 D3 ES 33,750
S60 D3 ES Geartronic 35,980
S60 D3 SE 36,500
S60 D3 SE Geartronic 38,730
S60 D3 SE LUX 39,050
S60 D3 SE LUX Geartronic 41,280

Current figures. €2,000 to go on these in Jan, but there are very decent discounts to be had at the moment on all Volvo's excluding the S40.

lukester

I haven't driven the S60, but we were considering the V50/V70 as a family car. The Ford underpinnings and PSA engines put me off, although I believe the D3 engine is Volvo's own, and is supposed to be excellent. We went the other way in the end, started looking at Volvos, then went for Honda. As a long term ownership prospect I felt happier with Honda than Volvo. We just took delivery of our Honda this week

unkel

pajo1981 wrote: »

Damn, 36k+ for a 2011 type S and 40k+ for an executive.

That's just silly. You could buy a BMW 3-series for that kinda money.

R.O.R

unkel wrote: »

That's just silly. You could buy a BMW 3-series for that kinda money.

Are you stirring?

36k will get you a 318d ES with metallic paint and not a lot else. Apart from the badge (if you are in to that sort of thing), why would you pay more for a base model of a smaller, less powerful car?

iphone4g

unkel wrote: »

That's just silly. You could buy a BMW 3-series for that kinda money.

And you rate BMW over Honda ??

bazz26

unkel wrote: »

That's just silly. You could buy a BMW 3-series for that kinda money.

Not a very well speced one though.

The Accord is expensive in Ireland but even base models are well speced. A top of the range Accord might cost €40+k but have a look at a Mondeo Titanium X or Insignia Elite with everything on the options list ticked and I'm sure the difference in price would not be that big. In other markets these are what the Accord competes with, it's just here that Honda have always positioned the Accord above these models. And to be fair from my own experience of driving an Accord years ago they always felt and drove like a step up from the likes of the Vectra, Mondeo at the time. Of course over the years cars like the Mondeo and Insignia have narrowed the gap the same way they have narrowed the gap with junior exec models like the 3 Series, A4, etc.

EPM

pajo1981 wrote: »

Rooster, if you wait until next year, you'll be able to pick up a 1 yo new model 5 series for type s money.

For once I actually agree with you:p

Although, I don't wish to take away from the Accord. Looks a great car but if you were able to get a 1 year old 5 series for that money you would have a car from the class up. Spec is quite good on them now too.

unkel

bazz26 wrote: »

The Accord is expensive in Ireland but even base models are well speced. A top of the range Accord might cost €40+k but have a look at a Mondeo Titanium X or Insignia Elite with everything on the options list ticked and I'm sure the difference in price would not be that big. In other markets these are what the Accord competes with, it's just here that Honda have always positioned the Accord above these models.

I guess if Honda can get away with charging silly money for the Accord in Ireland because of the fools and their money over here, I can't really blame them

fonecrusher1

This is hilarious.:D All this talk; oh you could get a bmw for that money... as though he's automatically going to want a beemer over the accord when he realises this.
Think a lot of bmw owners don't seem to realise not everyone is as fascinated with the german marque as they are.

This country is awash with 3 & 5 series bmw. I'd take the accord every time.

lukester

unkel wrote: »

I guess if Honda can get away with charging silly money for the Accord in Ireland because of the fools and their money over here, I can't really blame them

Blatant trolling

Unfortunately paddy only needs to see that blue and white propellor badge on a poverty spec, underpowered, cramped little saloon and think the badge makes it all ok, because they have a 'premium' car.

Fools and their money, indeed

fonecrusher1

lukester wrote: »

Blatant trolling

Unfortunately paddy only needs to see that blue and white propellor badge on a poverty spec, underpowered, cramped little saloon and think the badge makes it all ok, because they have a 'premium' car.

Fools and their money, indeed

A few years ago i was all set for getting myself a used 320. I'd taken a few for a test drive & found them a nice car but oh so miserable for spec & generally found them lacking any real element of wow..this is a really nice car. I then turned my attention to the lexus is200 & the difference was unreal. For slightly less money i got myself a black is200 with just about every extra you could want & a lovely car to drive as well.

EPM

lukester wrote: »

Blatant trolling

Unfortunately paddy only needs to see that blue and white propellor badge on a poverty spec, underpowered, cramped little saloon and think the badge makes it all ok, because they have a 'premium' car.

Fools and their money, indeed

A year old 5 series would be more powerful and at least a match spec and space wise. You may also be able to get one with the 5 year service package which would further reduce costs. I wouldn't dismiss it as a foolish purchase right away on that basis.

The Accord is expensive for what it is but still a great car.

unkel

R.O.R wrote: »

Are you stirring?

36k will get you a 318d ES with metallic paint and not a lot else.

He mentioned 36k and 40k. For 40k you get a 320d M sport or even a 520d. Surely a lot more desirable than an Accord? Except in the snow of course

EPM wrote: »

The Accord is expensive for what it is but still a great car.

This is it. Interesting that most people in this country don't see it that way though (unlike in other markets as bazz26 said the Accord is much cheaper relatively than here)

lukester

EPM wrote: »

A year old 5 series would be more powerful and at least a match spec and space wise. You may also be able to get one with the 5 year service package which would further reduce costs. I wouldn't dismiss it as a foolish purchase right away on that basis.

The Accord is expensive for what it is but still a great car.

A year old 5 series, absolutely, I'd consider, but not a new 3 series 318 over a new Accord, which is what was being proposed.

I reckon there are are two types of BMW buyers, those who buy for the badge, and enthusiasts. I can't see the latter paying silly money for a new 318 over a year old 5 series.

R.O.R

unkel wrote: »

He mentioned 36k and 40k. For 40k you get a 320d M sport or even a 520d. Surely a lot more desirable than an Accord? Except in the snow of course

€40k would get you a White, Red or Black 320d SE, or a 318d Exlusive with €700 of extra's.

Figures are pre-discount, but there is a higher margin on the Honda's

Accord would still have better specification, and not be the old model next year.

Anyway - S60 is better than all of them and that's what he needs to buy :pac:

roosterman71

I'm not a big BMW fan. Plus everyone seems to have one

vengeance52

roosterman71 wrote: »

I'm not a big BMW fan. Plus everyone seems to have one

Ive a 2004 Accord, a 2.2 Exec and its the most comfortable car ive ever driven, and that includes other peoples cars.

You get some much bells and whistles on it as standard and I think its a handsome car. Best thing to do is just take one out and see what you think.

roosterman71

Took one out some time ago, and was mighty impressed. Since then I've wanted one!! But just couldn't really decide if it was madness getting it. I still don't know

vengeance52

I almost got a 320D when I was changing car, but in my opinion, i found the interior a tad bland. The Accord I think its nice to sit in, comfy drive and I have had little difficulty in the current bad weather with the roads or the car freezing up etc.

Also what sold it for me, is I love the accelerator pedal (Strange I Know :P ). As I am tall and have large feet, some cars can be awkward for me to drive, but with the accelerator pedal hinged from the floor, i step on it rather then pushing it towards the engine which is supremely comfortable for me to drive.

JerCotter7

roosterman71 wrote: »

I'm not a big BMW fan. Plus everyone seems to have one

You're on the right forum so

lukester wrote: »

A year old 5 series, absolutely, I'd consider, but not a new 3 series 318 over a new Accord, which is what was being proposed.

I reckon there are are two types of BMW buyers, those who buy for the badge, and enthusiasts. I can't see the latter paying silly money for a new 318 over a year old 5 series.

Personally I would chose a year old M3 but that's because I love the 3 series. But they style of them has gone down the last 2 models Don't think they will ever beat the e36 personally.

VolvoMan

I don't understand all the love on here for the Accord to be honest. It's competent if anything, but hardly inspiring or class leading in any way.

Jesh1

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

A few years ago i was all set for getting myself a used 320. I'd taken a few for a test drive & found them a nice car but oh so miserable for spec & generally found them lacking any real element of wow..this is a really nice car. I then turned my attention to the lexus is200 & the difference was unreal. For slightly less money i got myself a black is200 with just about every extra you could want & a lovely car to drive as well.

Totally agree with this.....a BWW is a glorified Passat.
A IS200 is a far superior car. It may be a glorified Toyota but it drives a hell of a lot better than a 320. I've had my IS200 for five years now and all it's needed is a new battery. (& generally maintenance of course)

One of my mates bought a 320 and spent over 4k on repairs.......shocking :eek:

Stick with Honda's/Toyotas/Lexus......you won’t be disappointed.

JerCotter7

Jesh1 wrote: »

Totally agree with this.....a BWW is a glorified Passat.
A IS200 is a far superior car. It may be a glorified Toyota but it drives a hell of a lot better than a 320. I've had my IS200 for five years now and all it's needed is a new battery. (& generally maintenance of course)

One of my mates bought a 320 and spent over 4k on repairs.......shocking :eek:

Stick with Honda's/Toyotas/Lexus......you won’t be disappointed.

One of my friends bought a dog and spent over 2k on repairs :eek: Surgery is expensive.

But really it just depends on the type of car you are going for. I find out of all jap cars Honda are the most unique to drive personally. Even a bog standard civic with just a set of alloys is very sturdy on the road.

Jesh1

JerCotter7 wrote: »

One of my friends bought a dog and spent over 2k on repairs :eek: Surgery is expensive.

But really it just depends on the type of car you are going for. I find out of all jap cars Honda are the most unique to drive personally. Even a bog standard civic with just a set of alloys is very sturdy on the road.

I would have shot the dog for less than that:eek::eek:

Even a bog standard civic with just a set of alloys is very sturdy on the road....let me guess no less than 17"

JerCotter7

Jesh1 wrote: »

I would have shot the dog for less than that:eek::eek:

Even a bog standard civic with just a set of alloys is very sturdy on the road....let me guess no less than 17"

And chrome. Add's 50 bhp and 200 lbs of downforce.

Nah I mean something a bit wider than the 80 tires you get on it. Like 195 or thereabouts.

Orando Broom

From what I was told by a man of science that under no circumstances should I buy an English Reg Accord, too many were under flood water and sent to the Irish market, there is a cartell type website that can check their English history but none the less Caveat Emptor. Second be aware that there is a problem with the dual flywheel that is mega expensive to repair. It's a problem that can develop around the 80-100k mark.

I am sure plenty of people will come on here and disagree, so no problems if they do I'm just passing on what I heard, and I would implicitly trust this man over any one else when it comes to the second hand car market.

I was all set for a 2.2 myself but on hearing the flywheel problem I'm out. I may consider the petrol. I'd say they'll get dirt cheap I do an average of 10k a year so petrol prices would hardly be a consideration.