McAleese Calls Council Of State Meeting re: Credit Institutions Bill

kaiser sauze

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20101217/tuk-mcaleese-calls-talks-on-bailout-law-e1cd776.html

In an unusual move, the president will on Tuesday convene the body, made up of the country's most senior serving and former office holders, to discuss the Credit Institutions Bill rather than simply signing it into law.

I must say I am really surprised at this move, however, I would like her to refer it to The Supreme Court and that will prevent legal challenges down the road that will slow down the effective implementation of necessary parts of the bill.

What do people think, is there a chance The Supreme Court would strike it down if it were referred? The powers given to the Minister for Finance are vast and certainly not something that would ever be put into day-to-day legislation. Do the times we live in now justify these temporary powers?

later12

Well considering it didn't receive much Dail debate at the behest of the Opposition on Wednesday last, despite its significance, and despite their request to return on Tuesday next to tease out some further information and clarify sections of the bill.

At least with the likes of our Dear Leader, combined with Mary Coughlan, the Ceann Comhairle, and Bertie Ahern sitting Her Expensiveness down on a chair, we can be assured that the whole thing will be explained to her adequately and honestly.

caseyann

Looks like she is reading boards.ie,As i do recall this question being asked of her here lol

kaiser sauze

Despite my hopes it has not been referred. Most disappointing.

Let the legal challenges begin! More revenue for the cabal of law firms to fap to.

kaiser sauze

later10 wrote: »

Well considering it didn't receive much Dail debate at the behest of the Opposition on Wednesday last, despite its significance, and despite their request to return on Tuesday next to tease out some further information and clarify sections of the bill.

At least with the likes of our Dear Leader, combined with Mary Coughlan, the Ceann Comhairle, and Bertie Ahern sitting Her Expensiveness down on a chair, we can be assured that the whole thing will be explained to her adequately and honestly.

Bertie's advice was: "da, da, da, let me consult my notes, I'll get the figures, *fudge, nudge, wink*, JAYSUS!"

Dempo1

Nice to hear this lazy good for nothing organized an afternoon tea party! Indeed nice to hear she is still with us. I guess things being quite up north gave her even less to do! Christ she sickens me and for that bunch of old farts sitting around talking ****e, Jesus wept, I'm sure the country gives a ****!

ArtSmart

This bill is either Lenihan's finest hour or worse ever. will have to take a closer look at it in time.

later12

It's actually quite disappointing that McAleese didn't place this beyond constitutional challenge by referring it to the Supreme Court who may have been likely to uphold it. This would therefore establish greater fiscal certainty by providing the Minister with stronger regulatory muscle in terms of acting against bondholders and to introduce emergency measures in the event of a further economic deterioration, which we now must take as inevitable.

In any event, the act does provide for continued future recourse to the Courts in cases where the Minister seeks to establish the legal position and place his decisions beyond constitutional challenge.

paulaa

This whole thing was a farce imo, nothing more than window dressing.
The Council of State, made up of some of the greatest architects of the destruction of the country.
It should have gone to the Supreme Court

Mr.Micro

paulaa wrote: »

This whole thing was a farce imo, nothing more than window dressing.
The Council of State, made up of some of the greatest architects of the destruction of the country.
It should have gone to the Supreme Court

Exactly just pretend, that the toothless McAleese was concerned. Absolute BS....should have given each other medals afterwards.

phantom_lord

later10 wrote: »

Well considering it didn't receive much Dail debate at the behest of the Opposition on Wednesday last, despite its significance

I was in the Dáil that day and was witness to the short debate on Wed and I can safety say what went on was complete nonsense. Sinn Fein filibustered their way to the deadline so Lenihan had no opportunity to reply, with Aengus Ó Snodaigh providing a fifteen minute speal of hot air just on his own.

While it might be a true statement that there was little debate, more time would have added little other than providing more opportunities for potential sound bites for the news that day. The opposition had no real interest in debating the bill.

later12

phantom_lord wrote: »

While it might be a true statement that there was little debate, more time would have added little other than providing more opportunities for potential sound bites for the news that day. The opposition had no real interest in debating the bill.

They had hardly any time to go through it. Did you see the size of the bill? The opposition got it something like one day before hand. I take your point about SF but really, the lack of credible opportunity for informed debate was disappointing.

the groutch

people forget she's a FF politician, all mouth and no trousers

paulaa

phantom_lord wrote: »

I was in the Dáil that day and was witness to the short debate on Wed and I can safety say what went on was complete nonsense. Sinn Fein filibustered their way to the deadline so Lenihan had no opportunity to reply, with Aengus Ó Snodaigh providing a fifteen minute speal of hot air just on his own.

While it might be a true statement that there was little debate, more time would have added little other than providing more opportunities for potential sound bites for the news that day. The opposition had no real interest in debating the bill.

I was watching it and I disagree with your last sentence. Kenny and the others all complained that they had only been given the draft the previous afternoon and had no time to study it. Kenny asked if they could come back on Tuesday(yesterday) and debate it fully but that was denied.

It was going to be rushed through no matter what any of them said

oppenheimer1

the groutch wrote: »

people forget she's a FF politician, all mouth and no trousers

She isn't a member of FF actually.

flutered

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

She isn't a member of FF actually.

she qualifies tho.

10belowzero

A council of loser's , being consulted about another bunch of loser's , after a brace of pheastant , claret and port , as poor auld kenny everet used to say , IT WAS ALL DONE IN THE VERY BEST POSSIBLE TASTE .

johngalway

Rubber stamp anyone?

johngalway

ArtSmart wrote: »

This bill is either Lenihan's finest hour or worse ever. will have to take a closer look at it in time.

Heh, the man is consistent, so I'll go with the latter.