Ferris Injured again

Luckycharm

Is he made of glass- such a shame as great player

Ferris is ruled out for Ulster
Friday, 17 December 2010 14:38

Ulster will be without Stephen Ferris for the Heineken Cup clash with Bath at the Rec on Saturday.

There are two changes from the starting XV which defeated Bath 22-18 at Ravenhill last weekend, both in the back row.

Ferris is ruled out after injuring his leg in training this week while Willie Faloon starts ahead of Chris Henry who is named on the bench.

Ulster team to play Bath at The Rec in the Heineken Cup:

Ulster: Adam D'Arcy; Andrew Trimble, Nevin Spence, Paddy Wallace, Simon Danielli; Ian Humphreys, Ruan Pienaar

Tom Court, Nigel Brady, BJ Botha, Johann Muller (Captain), Dan Tuohy, Pedrie Wannenburg, Willie Faloon, Robbie Diack

Replacements: Andi Kyriacou, Paddy McAllister, Bryan Young, Tim Barker, Chris Henry, Paul Marshall, Ian Whitten, Jamie Smith

Otacon

It doesn't discuss the severity of the injury. How many weeks will he be out for?

yosser hughes

Why do you use the term "Sicknote"? Remove it.

jolley123

For me, that's Ulster's chance gone. He is way to big of an influence to be replaced.

yosser hughes

yosser hughes wrote: »

Why do you use the term "Sicknote"? Remove it.

Its a throwaway comment. Don't get precious

Luckycharm

yosser hughes wrote: »

Why do you use the term "Sicknote"? Remove it.

Becuase unfortunatelly he can't seem to go a couple of months without getting injured. Eric Miller used to be called Tampax

yosser hughes

Luckycharm wrote: »

Becuase unfortunatelly he can't seem to go a couple of months without getting injured. Eric Miller used to be called Tampax

I'm aware of his injury history. The term you use implies something else.

danthefan

yosser hughes wrote: »

I'm aware of his injury history. The term you use implies something else.

What? No it doesn't.

PhatPiggins

Pity, Ferris has been the best flanker in the NH this season.

jacothelad

Ferris is prone to a lot of injuries. A lot of them are joint injuries due to his size and the freakish speed he generates. Add in the way he plays and the fact that he is targetted by opponents for 'special' attention and he does get a lot of days off. He'll simply use this as another of his 'off games' as ordered by the IRFU. Diack has been playing very well at 8 all season. He has suddenly become the player we hoped he might. Add in Faloon as a real 7 and we have a different but still useful backrow.

seeing_ie

Too much fast twitch muscle for his ligaments, joints etc I think. Thank god I avoided that affliction.
Was it in the lions doc that the rest of the players on that tour couldn't get over the explosive power he could generate in the gym?

skelliser

danthefan wrote: »

What? No it doesn't.

i disagree.

i would read it as a jibe, as in he is feigning injury which is completely untrue.
I think the OP has something against Ferris.

He is just injury prone, like many other quality players, Simon Geoghan Quinn being one, dogged with injuries for years.

Title should read "injury prone Ferris out again"

Risteard

I've always took 'sicknote' to mean injury prone. I doubt anybody thinks Ferris fakes injuries, why would he be in a contract if that were the case?

Anyway, big blow for Ulster, massive player for them. I hope it's not too serious.

CouchSmart

Disaster. Hopefully nothing serious.

borna7

Ulster still have a highly competitive back row out with Diak coming in. He was Ulster's most consistent back row performer prior to his injury. Also delighted that Faloon has been given a start. Huge opportunity for him to nail down the Ulster no.7 shirt if he can put in a big performance against Moody. Would also love to see him get some game time for the Wolfhounds this season

seeing_ie

Just did a search for some of Falloon's highlights, must say youtube rarely disappoints.

nsfw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se5oxNIpYUk

Dylbag

Hey all - first time posting on rugby forum!
Ferris will be missed big time... He was immense last weekend... The guy would run into a brick wall and hurt it!

Good to see faloon in there... A natural 7 who would have had more recognition if the laws hadn't off changed!

Monty Burnz

seeing_ie wrote: »

Just did a search for some of Falloon's highlights, must say youtube rarely disappoints.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se5oxNIpYUk

He was obviously doing a lot of upper body work at that time, the size of his chest :eek:

Can't say the shorts do him any favours, haven't seen so much arse cheek since Borat.

myflipflops

IRFU and Ulster rugby need to invest serious money in trying to sort the guys injury problems long term. He has the potential to be one of our greatest ever forwards.

His injury during the Lions tour still hurts. He was going to have a huge impact against SA (and win me lots of money!)

thebaz

if you play as hard as Ferris injuries are inevitable - that is why a squad is so essential - and happily we (Ireland) are well covered here.

ps - the term sicknote is a tad unfair - but sometimes there is a patch of over sensitivity here in the rugby forum

lologram

thebaz wrote: »

if you play as hard as Ferris injuries are inevitable - that is why a squad is so essential - and happily we (Ireland) are well covered here.

ps - the term sicknote is a tad unfair - but sometimes there is a patch of over sensitivity here in the rugby forum

Think people were too quick to jump to the conclusion that the OP was saying Ferris showing a lack of commitment (or however you want to phrase it). We all know he's a monster. As you say, injuries are a result of how hard he plays the game.

At the same time though, he is injured an awful lot of the time, and it's conspicuous. Maybe he should try to be a bit wiser with how he takes care of himself, because it seems that several times a season we hear about him being out of contention for Ulster or Ireland. There are many forwards around the world who are incredibly physical without missing significant chunks of the season through resultant injuries. Just a thought.

JustinDee

myflipflops wrote: »

IRFU and Ulster rugby need to invest serious money in trying to sort the guys injury problems long term

Aside from whats in place or not picking him, what do you suggest?
Players get injured for all sorts of reasons.

('Ulster Rugby' is IRFU by the way).

Podge_irl

thebaz wrote: »

if you play as hard as Ferris injuries are inevitable - that is why a squad is so essential - and happily we (Ireland) are well covered here.

ps - the term sicknote is a tad unfair - but sometimes there is a patch of over sensitivity here in the rugby forum

He nearly always seems to get injured in training rather then matches.

comeraghs

I would interpret calling someone "sicknote" as hinting that they are a bit soft & not 100% commited .... maybe the OP didn´t mean it like that but if he did it´s a bit harsh ....

Badgermonkey

skelliser wrote: »

i disagree.

i would read it as a jibe, as in he is feigning injury which is completely untrue.
I think the OP has something against Ferris.

He is just injury prone, like many other quality players, Simon Geoghan Quinn being one, dogged with injuries for years.

Title should read "injury prone Ferris out again"

Simon Geoghan Quinn?

The first EU commissioner to score in Twickenham since Padraig Flynn skinned Gareth Chilcott on the outside way back in '84.

Padraig still talks of it......no surprise there then.

myflipflops

JustinDee wrote: »

Aside from whats in place or not picking him, what do you suggest?
Players get injured for all sorts of reasons.

('Ulster Rugby' is IRFU by the way).

Separate medical teams etc.

It could be that he is just unlucky with injuries due and their regularity is partly due to the nature of his game but there could be other causes.

As an example, Damian Duff had a fairly chronic hamstring issue while with Blackburn but Chelsea sorted it pretty quickly. They looked at his car and realised the seat was the inital cause of his hamstrign problems so they made her he was driving in one with a different design of seat.

Small every day things could be the cause of recurring injuries. I just think he's such an important player for Ireland, no stone should be left uncovered.

Luckycharm

skelliser wrote: »

i disagree.

i would read it as a jibe, as in he is feigning injury which is completely untrue.
I think the OP has something against Ferris.

He is just injury prone, like many other quality players, Simon Geoghan Quinn being one, dogged with injuries for years.
Title should read "injury prone Ferris out again"

God some people are precious- I think Ferris is a fantastic player but extremelly injury prone. I do not think he is feigning it but it is strange that 90% of his injuries seem to occur during training rather then during matches so this might be something he might need to look at.
Anyway Ulster did well without him.

yosser hughes

Luckycharm wrote: »

God some people are precious- I think Ferris is a fantastic player but extremelly injury prone. I do not think he is feigning it but it is strange that 90% of his injuries seem to occur during training rather then during matches so this might be something he might need to look at.
Anyway Ulster did well without him.

The use of the term "sicknote" is a jibe. Just because you don't understand that doesn't make it any less so. It's not being precious it's about having respect and not misrepresenting the player.

JustinDee

Oh relax.
Its obvious what the poster meant, especially if you've read any of their previous posts concerning Stephen Ferris.

yosser hughes

JustinDee wrote: »

Oh relax.
Its obvious what the poster meant, especially if you've read any of their previous posts concerning Stephen Ferris.

No it isn't obvious. I think you fail to understand the term "sicknote" and how it is interpreted in this instance.

JustinDee

yosser hughes wrote: »

No it isn't obvious. I think you fail to understand the term "sicknote" and how it is interpreted in this instance.

I don't fail to understand it at all. Nor do I choose to be subjectively and tribally thin-skinned about the title of the thread.

Its an internet forum and not the High Court.
Some people take all this jazz way too seriously.

Paul Smeenus

I don't think "Sicknote" was meant in those terms. Simply that he is injured quite a bit, which is absolutley true.

I would wager my house, however, that he hasn't spent as much of the last few years injured as Luke "Handle with Care" Fitzgerald, Kevin "Warning: Fragile Contents" McLaughlin or Jerry "Look But Don't Touch" Flannery.

I'd say Earls, Leamy and Kearney run him pretty close as well. I think he's been as unlucky with the timings of his injuries as much as the number of them. He's missed a number of big oppotunities to show his wares on the wider stage.

He lasted the whole AI, though, and was, overall, easily one of our best players.

padser

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

I'd say Earls, Leamy and Kearney run him pretty close as well.

I know he is injured right now - but he is hardly injury prone.

d'Oracle

I have to weigh in here.

A lot of Ferris injuries have been breaks.
Breaks are bloody unlucky.
He doesn't have brittle bone syndrome. (I think)

Generally when I'm thinking of a player and how injury prone he is, I think of muscle tears or ligament & tendon injuries. things like that.

But with all the breaks I seem to think he has had, I wouldn't think of him as injury prone really.

d'Oracle

padser wrote: »

I know he is injured right now - but he is hardly injury prone.

Yeah.
Illness doesn't count as Injury.
He is probably the most deserving of the title sicknote.

Luckycharm

d'Oracle wrote: »

Yeah.
Illness doesn't count as Injury.
He is probably the most deserving of the title sicknote.

Oh OH now you have done it I see someone changed the title :rolleyes:- think the first player I ever heard as referred to as Sicknote was Spurs player Darren Anderton.

padser

d'Oracle wrote: »

Yeah.
Illness doesn't count as Injury.
He is probably the most deserving of the title sicknote.

Ok - I will resort to facts I guess.

2005 - 25 Leinster games
2006 - 17 Leinster games
2007 - 20 Leinster games
2008 - 19 Leinster games
2009 - 17 Leinster games
2010 - 6 (to date)

Over that time he has also played 25 times for Ireland as well as a Lions tour. He is averaging about 25 games a season (most, if not all, of his Ireland caps are post 2007 world cup).

Again - the guy is not injury or illness prone.

Brewster

Bit of a pointless thread to be honest. Just hope Ferris is back for Biarritz game. There are other Irish players who suffer terrible injuries most notably in my eyes would be Jerry Flannery. I wonder at times will he ever come back for Ireland? He keeps getting same injury and that is when you start to worry for a player....