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HID Kit.

  • 16-12-2010 3:31pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭


    I am ordering HID's for my dims and fog lights. For the fogs I am ordering 35 watt 5000k lights. And for the dims I want to order 55 watt 6000k lights but is there anything in the law against this or is it okay?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    What's the car?
    Do you have projector headlights?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭JerCotter7


    SV wrote: »
    What's the car?
    Do you have projector headlights?

    E36.

    Pretty sure it comes standard with them in Eu.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    JerCotter7 wrote: »
    E36.

    So your headlights look like this headlight.jpg ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭sean1141


    6000k in projectors will look very blue.. maybe 5000k for the dims also?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,238 ✭✭✭Ardennes1944


    i had 6000k in my projectors....were not blue at all. pure white


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭JerCotter7


    SV wrote: »
    So your headlights look like this headlight.jpg ?

    Not sure because the EU and NA ones are different but look the same. All I know is http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=BE72&mospid=47426&btnr=63_0273&hg=63&fg=05 is mine.

    sean1141 wrote: »
    6000k in projectors will look very blue.. maybe 5000k for the dims also?

    Well if I keep the 55 watt it will wash out the colour so 6000k and 5000k will match better than 5000k each. But if I will fail NCT with 55 watt I'll just get 35 watt with both 5000k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭sean1141


    it will fail the nct if it looks blue. i passed with 55w 4300k in the reflector headlights in the car. have 35w 5000k in projectors now and the light is pure white with just a hint of blue around the edges.. no real need for 55w imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    It will fail the nct regardless.
    Your headlight projection will be all wrong.

    HID kits ONLY go into headlight projectors.
    the headlights you have scatter the light everywhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭sean1141


    SV wrote: »
    It will fail the nct regardless.
    Your headlight projection will be all wrong.

    HID kits ONLY go into headlight projectors.
    the headlights you have scatter the light everywhere
    i passed the nct with hids in reflector headlights.. but since i have installed projectors you really notice the differance. the light is a lot better and less scattered


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭JerCotter7


    Guess that means time to go look into buy vaders again since I can't be bothered paying 200 for the headlights as well right now.

    Thanks for the reply's.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,238 ✭✭✭Ardennes1944


    i have 6000k in reflectors and i think they're fantastic. i have them aimed almost perfectly. never get flashed and i got a few people i know to drive towards me and they said they were fine. any temp. over 6000 will fail the nct. it doesnt matter if they're projector or reflector.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭JerCotter7


    i have 6000k in reflectors and i think they're fantastic. i have them aimed almost perfectly. never get flashed and i got a few people i know to drive towards me and they said they were fine. any temp. over 6000 will fail the nct. it doesnt matter if they're projector or reflector.

    Hmm I still wouldn't chance it if my lights aren't ellipsoid. But according to bimmerforums uk they are. So confusing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭daRobot


    I don't care what anyone says, HID in reflector headlights is irresponsible, and moreover, looks terrible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭Piri


    Do not use HID in non-projector headlamps
    It will be dangerous for others


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,154 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    daRobot wrote: »
    I don't care what anyone says, HID in reflector headlights is irresponsible, and moreover, looks terrible.
    Piri wrote: »
    Do not use HID in non-projector headlamps
    It will be dangerous for others

    Yes use H7R Kits

    Quick example

    http://cgi.ebay.ie/Hid-Xenon-Kit-H7R-slim-dig-ballasts-8000K-Arctic-Ice-/320479840032?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4a9e164720


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,857 ✭✭✭langdang


    Jer,please don't retrofit HIDs to fogs if you are they type that likes to drive around on wet nights with them on. Bluey normal bulbs in the fogs will suffice to annoy people, HID fogs might flip them over the edge...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭JerCotter7


    langdang wrote: »
    Jer,please don't retrofit HIDs to fogs if you are they type that likes to drive around on wet nights with them on. Bluey normal bulbs in the fogs will suffice to annoy people, HID fogs might flip them over the edge...

    I want the fogs so they match rather than for use. I was gonna get fulls as well but was told that they would burn out too quick since they aren't made for flashing or constant on/off.

    16122010288.th.jpg

    16122010289.th.jpg

    2 pictures of my headlights. From looking at them I think they are projectors.

    And pictures were taking with my phone at night so sorry about that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,782 ✭✭✭P.C.


    JerCotter7 wrote: »
    I am ordering HID's for my dims and fog lights. For the fogs I am ordering 35 watt 5000k lights. And for the dims I want to order 55 watt 6000k lights but is there anything in the law against this or is it okay?


    What is wrong with the current/standard lights on you car?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭JerCotter7


    P.C. wrote: »
    What is wrong with the current/standard lights on you car?

    I feel safer driving with xenon or HID than I do with halogen. But xenon keep blowing so I said I would try HID's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,782 ✭✭✭P.C.


    JerCotter7 wrote: »
    I feel safer driving with xenon or HID than I do with halogen. But xenon keep blowing so I said I would try HID's.


    Why?
    Most people manage just fine with halogen.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭JerCotter7


    P.C. wrote: »
    Why?
    Most people manage just fine with halogen.

    Never said it wasn't fine but that I felt better driving with better lights. Especially as my car is low so all the SUV lights just over power mine and shine straight at my eyes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,782 ✭✭✭P.C.


    JerCotter7 wrote: »
    Never said it wasn't fine but that I felt better driving with better lights. Especially as my car is low so all the SUV lights just over power mine and shine straight at my eyes.

    So, the light that you have on the car now are fine.

    The SUV light over powering your lights and shining in your eyes is a seperate issue.

    Where do you do the most of your driving?
    Town/city or country/open road?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭JerCotter7


    P.C. wrote: »
    So, the light that you have on the car now are fine.

    The SUV light over powering your lights and shining in your eyes is a seperate issue.

    Where do you do the most of your driving?
    Town/city or country/open road?

    Country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭mullingar


    SV wrote: »
    It will fail the nct regardless.
    Your headlight projection will be all wrong.

    100% WRONG!

    You are only changing the bulb, not the bulb position or headlight direction. Once the headlight is aligned correctly with a halogen bulb, it will pass with a HID.

    HID kits ONLY go into headlight projectors.
    the headlights you have scatter the light everywhere


    Technically you are correct, they should go into projectors for a better beam cut-off / reduced scatter.

    Ordinary (usually cheaper) halogen reflector headlights are not designed very well and the cut-off is normally scattered a bit, but change this to a bulb x3-x4 times brighter, the scatter is multiplied, this is the scatter people hate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 155 ✭✭feelites


    P.C. wrote: »
    Why?
    Most people manage just fine with halogen.


    coz they never been driven with the hids ;)



    OP, u'll be fine with the NCT, no worries.
    even with the hids around 10-12k


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