New jobs

Padkir

First time I've started a thread here, so go easy...:o!
I've read nothing but moaning and complaining in the last few weeks about how the government is doing nothing to create jobs, etc, etc. without anyone else really having a clear solution.

I've noticed in the last few weeks a huge amount of jobs being created around the country, for example;
115 jobs at Goodman in Galway
155 jobs at OSG in Dublin
300 jobs at Rigney Dolphin in Derry
100 jobs in HP in Galway
100 jobs at Accenture in Dublin
300 construction jobs at Health Centre in Dublin
etc, etc.

And that's only in the previous week or two. Everyone is quick to give out if 50 jobs are lost somewhere, but these are being given no recognition at all, considering they are all being supported by Enterprise Ireland and are probably expanding due to low tax rates, and potentially lower costs.

So it seems to me there is great work going on behind the scenes to create jobs. I know there are hundreds of thousands out of work, but you have to start somewhere and cant expect them to all be employed again within a month or 2.

My list is not even all the jobs but that's over 1000 announced in little over a week. Give it time, we are recovering. Or maybe I'm missing something...

ei.sdraob

you are not allowed to be positive here :P

right back at ya

30,000 building jobs in danger as construction projects finish

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as for enterprise ireland, I take it you never had to deal with them?
I can think of one company of top my head that sells a fictional product that doesnt exist and EI sunk over 400,000 into the company that was setup for the whole purpose of milking the state for grants

a better stimulus would be not taxing the companies as much in the first place, something as simple as removal of employer side prsi/paye fees would be a real changer

RichardAnd

I noticed this too. There were featured on the RTE website but only on the little list of articles below the main news that most people don't heed. However, I'd point out that many of these new jobs are not "joe anybody" positions. It's good news, of course, great news even but I'd be surprised if it puts much of a dent in the legions of unemployed construction workers and retailers.

right back at ya

30,000 building jobs in danger as construction projects finish

Construction in Ireland is dead as an industry IMO. People will continue to build houses and such but construction is one of those things that provides a burst of work for short periods. Sadly, for most of those who worked at construction, only emigration will give a realistic chance of a decent life here.

ei.sdraob

RichardAnd wrote: »

Construction in Ireland is dead as an industry IMO. People will continue to build houses and such but construction is one of those things that provides a burst of work for short periods. Sadly, for most of those who worked at construction, only emigration will give a realistic chance of a decent life here.

If you read the article most of these are large scale infrastructure jobs such as motorways and new terminal
not just building more homes no one needs

this sort of infrastructure will over the long run be beneficial to the state and the businesses and people who share it

these people could be re-employed to build schools and hospitals and repair existing roads, but no we rather continue wasting money down the PS and welfare holes

RichardAnd

ei.sdraob wrote: »

If you read the article most of these are large scale infrastructure jobs such as motorways and new terminal
not just building more homes no one needs

this sort of infrastructure will over the long run be beneficial to the state and the businesses and people who share it

these people could be re-employed to build schools and hospitals and repair existing roads, but no we rather continue wasting money down the PS and welfare holes

I did read the article. In fact, I read it 6 months ago when it was published in June. And yes, you're right that building infrastructure would be a better use of money than many other things but...do you really think it will ever happen? I certainly don't.

ei.sdraob

RichardAnd wrote: »

I did read the article. In fact, I read it 6 months ago when it was published in June. And yes, you're right that building infrastructure would be a better use of money than many other things but...do you really think it will ever happen? I certainly don't.

No

danbohan

Padkir wrote: »

First time I've started a thread here, so go easy...:o!
I've read nothing but moaning and complaining in the last few weeks about how the government is doing nothing to create jobs, etc, etc. without anyone else really having a clear solution.

I've noticed in the last few weeks a huge amount of jobs being created around the country, for example;
115 jobs at Goodman in Galway
155 jobs at OSG in Dublin
300 jobs at Rigney Dolphin in Derry
100 jobs in HP in Galway
100 jobs at Accenture in Dublin
300 construction jobs at Health Centre in Dublin
etc, etc.

And that's only in the previous week or two. Everyone is quick to give out if 50 jobs are lost somewhere, but these are being given no recognition at all, considering they are all being supported by Enterprise Ireland and are probably expanding due to low tax rates, and potentially lower costs.

So it seems to me there is great work going on behind the scenes to create jobs. I know there are hundreds of thousands out of work, but you have to start somewhere and cant expect them to all be employed again within a month or 2.

My list is not even all the jobs but that's over 1000 announced in little over a week. Give it time, we are recovering. Or maybe I'm missing something...

bet you did not see this mentioned on prada ?, of course nobody would have lost their jobs in these companies !!, their is a spinning going on on state media even the opening of a chip shop seems headline news



November 2010 sees an increase in Insolvencies and the third highest monthly total for 2010 so far
http://www.insolvencyjournal.ie/home_more_details/10-12-02/November_2010_sees_an_increase_in_Insolvencies_and_the_third_highest_monthly_total_for_2010_so_far.aspx

danbohan

RichardAnd wrote: »

I noticed this too. There were featured on the RTE website but only on the little list of articles below the main news that most people don't heed. However, I'd point out that many of these new jobs are not "joe anybody" positions. It's good news, of course, great news even but I'd be surprised if it puts much of a dent in the legions of unemployed construction workers and retailers.



Construction in Ireland is dead as an industry IMO. People will continue to build houses and such but construction is one of those things that provides a burst of work for short periods. Sadly, for most of those who worked at construction, only emigration will give a realistic chance of a decent life here.

(only emigration will give a realistic chance of a decent life here,)

for the rest of us ???

construction will return to mid 80s level at best over next 10 years , places like leitrim /longford etc have enough houses built until 2050 and thats not taking into account massive emigration thats inevitable

ei.sdraob

danbohan wrote: »

construction will return to mid 80s level at best over next 10 years , places like leitrim /longford etc have enough houses built until 2050 and thats not taking into account massive emigration thats inevitable

Do you think these "bubble" homes still be standing in 40 years time? The construction of most of them is "shoddy" at best, diabolical at worst

danbohan

ei.sdraob wrote: »

Do you think these "bubble" homes still be standing in 40 years time? The construction of most of them is "shoddy" at best, diabolical at worst

depends , if empty no , if occupied yes , they are not as badly built as reports state , least ones i have seen . now places like carrick on shannon where they built on flood plains (flood plains owned by politicians mind you ) they will have disappeared.

Padkir

RichardAnd wrote: »

I noticed this too. There were featured on the RTE website but only on the little list of articles below the main news that most people don't heed. However, I'd point out that many of these new jobs are not "joe anybody" positions. It's good news, of course, great news even but I'd be surprised if it puts much of a dent in the legions of unemployed construction workers and retailers.

I take the point that construction/retail workers, etc. will probably not be boosted by these jobs, but as you rightly said, construction was short-term, it is not the fault of the government or anybody else that we can't continue to build hundreds of thousands of houses!

We are being told over and over that we have a high skilled workforce, and this is what will get us out of the mess we're in. Yet we are also being told by lobby groups, etc. that graduates can't get jobs, yet I find it hard to understand this considering these latest announcements, together with the fact that the Big 4 Accounting firms, on their own, have hired nearly 1000 graduates for next Autumn.

We can't re-employ the amount of construction workers in this country because it was an unsustainable amount. My point is that there appear to be plenty of jobs for educated graduates.

RichardAnd

Padkir wrote: »

I take the point that construction/retail workers, etc. will probably not be boosted by these jobs, but as you rightly said, construction was short-term, it is not the fault of the government or anybody else that we can't continue to build hundreds of thousands of houses!

We are being told over and over that we have a high skilled workforce, and this is what will get us out of the mess we're in. Yet we are also being told by lobby groups, etc. that graduates can't get jobs, yet I find it hard to understand this considering these latest announcements, together with the fact that the Big 4 Accounting firms, on their own, have hired nearly 1000 graduates for next Autumn.

We can't re-employ the amount of construction workers in this country because it was an unsustainable amount. My point is that there appear to be plenty of jobs for educated graduates.

There are jobs for many graduates. Guys with real degrees and with some experience to back it up (gained by working during the summer and such) are the ones who will get the jobs. I myself only graduated a year ago yet I got a job within 6-7 months. It wasn't easy but many of my friends did it too.

However, consider just how many graduates have Micky mouse degrees in nonsense such as Health & Safety, communications, womens' studies or the like. Hardworking, graduates with a healthy attitude will, with a little luck, find themselves a job here. Baz and Anto, with degrees in facile engineering from carlow IT are the ones in trouble.

Padkir

RichardAnd wrote: »

There are jobs for many graduates. Guys with real degrees and with some experience to back it up (gained by working during the summer and such) are the ones who will get the jobs. I myself only graduated a year ago yet I got a job within 6-7 months. It wasn't easy but many of my friends did it too.

However, consider just how many graduates have Micky mouse degrees in nonsense such as Health & Safety, communications, womens' studies or the like. Hardworking, graduates with a healthy attitude will, with a little luck, find themselves a job here. Baz and Anto, with degrees in facile engineering from carlow IT are the ones in trouble.

That's very true, but these, in general, appear to be people who are just doing a degree for the sake of it, with no real career prospects from it. You shouldn't train yourself and then expect someone to create a job to fit your needs, you should match your training to the jobs that are available or will be available in the future.

djpbarry

RichardAnd wrote: »

Baz and Anto, with degrees in facile engineering from carlow IT are the ones in trouble.

Do intellectual snobbery much? Carlow have some interesting courses in their prospectus. For example, ITC is the only third-level institute in Ireland offering a degree course in computer game development.

liammur

Padkir wrote: »

First time I've started a thread here, so go easy...:o!
I've read nothing but moaning and complaining in the last few weeks about how the government is doing nothing to create jobs, etc, etc. without anyone else really having a clear solution.

I've noticed in the last few weeks a huge amount of jobs being created around the country, for example;
115 jobs at Goodman in Galway
155 jobs at OSG in Dublin
300 jobs at Rigney Dolphin in Derry
100 jobs in HP in Galway
100 jobs at Accenture in Dublin
300 construction jobs at Health Centre in Dublin
etc, etc.

And that's only in the previous week or two. Everyone is quick to give out if 50 jobs are lost somewhere, but these are being given no recognition at all, considering they are all being supported by Enterprise Ireland and are probably expanding due to low tax rates, and potentially lower costs.

So it seems to me there is great work going on behind the scenes to create jobs. I know there are hundreds of thousands out of work, but you have to start somewhere and cant expect them to all be employed again within a month or 2.

My list is not even all the jobs but that's over 1000 announced in little over a week. Give it time, we are recovering. Or maybe I'm missing something...

That's true. Some places are doing much worse though, for instance Limerick city and county has got about 63 jobs since the dell closure a few yeas ago.