Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

Overheal

You heard me.

Now I have to go back, find my old oblivion files, try to close all of those oblivion gates...ugh, they all got to looking the bloody same after a while... -_-

Anyway, rejoice! Here is the debut teaser:

http://kotaku.com/5712282/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-unveiled-dated-for-2011

Sasquatch76

Just using an updated version of the old engine I've heard, which is disappointing to me personally.

Kiith

Better be a new engine tbh. The old one is looking seriously dated at this stage.

WolfForager

Could never finish the first one, kept getting my ass kicked

VenomIreland

WolfForager wrote: »

Could never finish the first one, kept getting my ass kicked

I've never played Arena, what's it like?

WolfForager

VenomIreland wrote: »

I've never played Arena, what's it like?

Oh sorry, meant Oblivion! That's where my elder scrolls journey began. :pac:

bastados

Hope the graphics have been reappraised since the last one.

Sasquatch76

bastados wrote: »

Hope the graphics have been reappraised since the last one.

And the levelling system.

And the casting budget.

Agricola

Between Oblivion and the last 2 Fallouts, Im really sick of this engine. It has to go.

funky penguin

It really is looking dated at this stage. Can't wait for this! I hope it looks further back than Oblivion to draw strengths from, I played it there again recently....and I honestly think Morrowind is a better game.

pixelburp

Sasquatch76 wrote: »

Just using an updated version of the old engine I've heard, which is disappointing to me personally.

Oh god, I hope that's just a rumour. The GameBryo engine is so ... shoddy at this stage I refuse to believe they're still going to be using it in 2011. I was looking at the various copyrights in the loading screen of Fallout New Vegas, and it looks to me like they're using a 2006 version of the engine. That's ridiculous.

Overheal

If they are going to use the same engine you can bet your ass it's got everything to do with Consoles. PCs are already 2 or 3 Graphics and performance generations ahead.

Whatever about the engine. It looked really stunning in its day and even more recently with texture mods. but what really set me off was as someone else pointed out, the awkward and limited voice acting, and the leveling system - one which left you know sense of accomplishment or power because when you were level 5, the mobs were level 5. And when you became 20 the mobs were all 20, and so on. Whereas any normal rpg with a brain has areas you simply shouldn't venture out to when you're level 2.

Last but not least they overpopulated the world with the oblivion gates, evidenced by the fact that there were maybe 3 or 5 "unique" (but really the same ****ing theme with slightly different layouts) oblivion realms that get copy-pasted across the entire world, and youre expected to close a bunch of these while fighting off boredom.

I suppose it always works out this way though: anytime someone first hears about a sequel they worry it will have all the flaws of the originals, and then it comes out and we're all left a little surprised at some of the improvements.

Sasquatch76

pixelburp wrote: »

Oh god, I hope that's just a rumour. The GameBryo engine is so ... shoddy at this stage I refuse to believe they're still going to be using it in 2011. I was looking at the various copyrights in the loading screen of Fallout New Vegas, and it looks to me like they're using a 2006 version of the engine. That's ridiculous.

Actually, just read this on another forum;

Bethblog Bethesda Blog

Seeing lots of speculation about #tesv game engine. It's brand new... and it's spectacular!

http://twitter.com/Bethblog/status/14010984884604929

Overheal

Neat. But what about the leveling?

Kylo Ren

Me when I saw them release the ad live on the VGAs...

pixelburp

Sasquatch76 wrote: »

Actually, just read this on another forum;

http://twitter.com/Bethblog/status/14010984884604929

Well that's great to hear. Wonder what engine their using. Suppose whatever it is, it will have to be capable of rendering large terrains & draw distances.

Overheal

Keno 92 wrote: »

Me when I saw them release the ad live on the VGAs...

You look terrified. Even though I know you just -

Icyseanfitz

i wonder how long have they been working on it? all i need now is the new gta and i will be one happy gamer

Sl!mCharles

awh mannn. This game... ohhh
Twill be rockin'!
good pun yes... stone dragon and all that.
Seriously cannot wait!!!!!

JohnyDarko

Am I the only person whos very skeptical about it? I mean Oblivion and Fallout 3 were pretty dire when compared to their predecessors and even on their own (Oblivion especially; with the leveling, voice acting, facial expressions, end "battle" and same-y dungeons - music was good tho), and while New Vegas is really fun, it was done by a completely different studio.

Which really surprises me when you think that TES3:Morrowind, which is probably one of the best games in the genre, was only released about 4 or 5 years before it.

Magill

JohnyDarko wrote: »

Am I the only person whos very skeptical about it? I mean Oblivion and Fallout 3 were pretty dire when compared to their predecessors and even on their own (Oblivion especially; with the leveling, voice acting, facial expressions, end "battle" and same-y dungeons - music was good tho), and while New Vegas is really fun, it was done by a completely different studio.

Which really surprises me when you think that TES3:Morrowind, which is probably one of the best games in the genre, was only released about 4 or 5 years before it.

Im not worried because your opinion isnt fact. I prefered oblivion to marrowind and although fallout 1+2 were better games, fallout3 certainly wasnt "dire" in comparision.

Kiith

Fallout 3 is widely regarded as one of the best games of 2008, so i don't see how you can say it was pretty dire compared to the previous games. Might not have been your cup of tea, which is fair enough.

I'll agree that Morrowind was a better game then Oblivion though. I'm excitied to see what they do with this, but since it's gonna be ages till we see anything, i won't be too bothered until we get some actual gameplay video's.

JohnyDarko

Kiith wrote: »

Fallout 3 is widely regarded as one of the best games of 2008, so i don't see how you can say it was pretty dire compared to the previous games. Might not have been your cup of tea, which is fair enough.

I'll agree that Morrowind was a better game then Oblivion though. I'm excitied to see what they do with this, but since it's gonna be ages till we see anything, i won't be too bothered until we get some actual gameplay video's.

And people who have never played Morrowind will likely have trouble believing that it was better than Oblivion.

I'm not saying Fallout 3 was an absolutely terrible game or anything, but it was (in my opinion, as magil wanted to make clear) almost completely different in tone rather than gameplay(which I didn't really mind) to 1 and 2 - as well as having its own problems such as the greyness, being overpowered in combat, player animations, boring generic companions, dialog and plot points (ending if you have the robot or fawkes or Col. Autumn's reappearance in particular), the freezes and crashes on PC and the radio (I mean even gta 3 had more content on one station then GNR had all game). I think the reason it was so critically lauded was more due to the recent lack of RPGs to compare it to and Bethesda's marketing department's ability to get the reviews it wants than its quality.

I do hope this game is good though... but again I'm going to hold against getting excited till we see some screens from it... its also going up against Dragon Age 2 this time, so hopefully the developers will pull out all the stops.

I really hope they add more voice actors. It got a bit ridiculous when you'd hear the same voice actor speaking in different ways - gruff, soft, hoarse, etc etc.

That trailer really didn't give much away, did it?

Duggy747

Yay, new Elder Scrolls.

As for the engine, I thought it was said a few months back that they were selling off the engine and switching to a new one. ES:5 would be a perfect oppertunity for them to showcase a new engine.

Hopefully they'll have more than 3 actors this time too :pac:

I also thought the physics in it was pretty odd with some bizzare glitches. (You touch 1 item on a table and everything explodes off it) Plus I hope they refine the guards, I don't want to be chased all over the land by an army just because I touched a spoon.

If it's anything like Oblivion then I'm already on board for this game

On the subject of voice actors - never spotted this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HS5jJ-6dtI

Tar.Aldarion

funky penguin wrote: »

It really is looking dated at this stage. Can't wait for this! I hope it looks further back than Oblivion to draw strengths from, I played it there again recently....and I honestly think Morrowind is a better game.

It is, as oblivion got so boring

humanji

Deleted User wrote: »

I really hope they add more voice actors. It got a bit ridiculous when you'd hear the same voice actor speaking in different ways - gruff, soft, hoarse, etc etc.

That trailer really didn't give much away, did it?

It gave away Max Von Sydow, which is enough for me!

funky penguin

Deleted User wrote: »

On the subject of voice actors - never spotted this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HS5jJ-6dtI

Ha! That's brilliant! I suppose I never really notice things like that because I skip the text.....

previous user

Holy crap!
only quarter way through Oblivion,
still not finished fallout 3 and fallout new vegas and now this sequel,
at this rate I'll never be able to find a job.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

at least it's a year away

i started oblivion for the first time earlier this year, got about 50 hours in and hadn't really touched the main story line was just having fun wandering around exploring and doing quests. The i reinstalled windows, completely forgot to copy over my savegames and now will have to start all over again

great game and all, but it's just too soon for me to start all that levelling up again.

JohnyDarko

JohnyDarko wrote: »

I do hope this game is good though... but again I'm going to hold against getting excited till we see some screens from it... its also going up against Dragon Age 2 this time, so hopefully the developers will pull out all the stops.

You mean oblivion gate 1-50000 vs loading screen&loading screen&loading screen?
Morrowind was the better game, hope they take inspiration from that one.

Agricola

I hope they really step up the storyline and voice acting. The days of half a dozen ham actors voicing everyone in an RPG should be long gone. Mass Effect 2 has set the bar very high and it makes it hard to go back to games which dont lavish the same attention on these aspects of the game.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

i'd rather the ****ty voice actors and graphics if the game was nothing at all like me2, horrible dissapointing game.

Retr0gamer

Seems like it's a brand new engine. I still expect it to be riddled with bugs but sure that's what you have to expect from hugely ambitious games. Not a fan of oblivion so I'm hoping for a Fallout sequel announced on the engine and given to Obsidian.

Agricola

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

i'd rather the ****ty voice actors and graphics if the game was nothing at all like me2, horrible dissapointing game.

Why so?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

it just felt like a straight fps with a few dialogue trees thrown in on top of it. didnt take to any of the characters either bar garrus and miranda and I really really hate the paragon/renegade options in the dialogue. It just bored the pants off me. I'm not a huge rpg fan so i'm not coming at this from a perspective of 'omgz its not morrowind eleventyone', i havent even played morrowind, but me2 just did not grab me at all.
of course I realise I am just about as alone as anyone can get in that opinion.

Overheal

No, they did a really horrible job in the storytelling department. Frankly, each Elder Scrolls game has had some variety of problem in that regard. At least the 2 I played. Morrowind's unreadable journal system meant you had to play this game pretty much at a constant just to remember what was going on. And in Oblivion it was just a mash of voice actors and random characters. You would think that being fans of storytelling, storytelling would be what they're best at, but what you get is this often uncontrollable mesh of sidequests and everything else that do what they can to marginalize the main plot because the main plot really isn't given a whole lot of gravity. Especially not when everything is the same: the voice acting is all the same, for one, but the leveling was all the same. You basically are overwhelmed at any one point because you can go - well, anywhere, without much sense of consequence, knowing you could probably run down just about any mob you come across with enough tact. Theres no "Damn I have to come back to this area later" or feeling of "yes I'm finally strong enough to save the world" etc.

Not to mention the whole "Lone hero saves the world" thing is getting pretty dated.

NeoKubrick

I'm a massive of Bethesda and the Elder Scrolls series and for anyone to say Morrowind is definitively better than Oblivion is ignorant. Oblivion is the better game; Morrowind, the better world. Dialogue and interaction needs to be fixed: never worked in Morrowind and ham-fisted approach with Oblivion and Fallout 3.

VenomIreland

NeoKubrick wrote: »

for anyone to say Morrowind is definitively better than Oblivion is ignorant. Oblivion is the better game; Morrowind, the better world

Only thing they did better in Oblivion was combat and graphics (although you can make Morrowind look quite amazing with a few mods and I do believe there is another mod to make the combat more like Oblivion's), everything else in Morrowind is better imo. The lore, the story, the sense of immersion etc.

I will always consider Morrowind the superior game.

Duggy747

:pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_2Jduxc2P8

I love those guards. Remember playing one day where someone was chasing after me and a guard stepped in and killed him. The guard then proceeded to take a few steps forward, before running back exclaiming, "there's been a murder!"

davearthurs

In my book the levelling and re-spawning in Oblivion ruined it but the story was pretty lame too.
Morrowind was an amazing game. Much better story and a lot more hidden oddities like the mudcrab trader, secret weapons etc.,

Retr0gamer

The one thing Bethesda desperately need is a good script writer and someone that can doing dialogue choices well. They'd be on to a real winner then. Bethesdas storytelling so far has just been terrible. Still didnt stop me enjoying the hell out of Fallout 3 but Oblivion was too bland and cliche and I just gave up.

Agricola

I suppose it depends on what you want from a game. I came to RPGs late and Im in no way an aficionado. I played Morrowind and enjoyed it, the same for Oblivion. But they never got me the way ME2, or even ME1 did. Its because I primarily played fps's and tps's before and to get the action of those genres mixed up with the depth of an RPG is what I like most. Old school RPG's just dont do it for me.
The trailer for Skyrim is very Lord of the Ringsesque, so I think if they could produce a game with the same sort of epic storyline, cutscenes and engaging characters as ME and put that in the Elder Scrolls universe, it would be a step in the right direction.

Spunge

Oblivion was my first elder scrolls game so when i played it it completely blew my mind. Huge open world, fast action combat, new interesting leveling system.
Will definitely get this but the magic may be gone for me.

Worst thing about playing oblivion was that i realised what i missed out on with morrowind. Id played pretty much every decent PC rpg but i just assumed morrowind sucked, even though i didnt know what kind of game it was. Serious fail

Sierra Oscar

Spunge wrote: »

Oblivion was my first elder scrolls game so when i played it it completely blew my mind. Huge open world, fast action combat, new interesting leveling system.
Will definitely get this but the magic may be gone for me.

Worst thing about playing oblivion was that i realised what i missed out on with morrowind. Id played pretty much every decent PC rpg but i just assumed morrowind sucked, even though i didnt know what kind of game it was. Serious fail

You can still play it - sure it looks dated, but thats not a huge issue. I still play it now and then!

Spunge

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

You can still play it - sure it looks dated, but thats not a huge issue. I still play it now and then!

yeah just pissed i could have been playing the **** out of it since 2003 and my mind would have been blown all over the ceiling

Magill

still think diablo III is going to be THE rpg of the year. Really is great looking RPG games coming out this year,.

Retr0gamer

I hate Diable so not for me!

Nodferatu

oh f**k yes i just came in my pants also, cant wait, november 2011 is gonna rule, you got uncharted 3, and now oblivion 5