What would the world be like, if alcohol were illegal and marijuana were legal

kjl

OK, firstly the rules:

This is not a debate about why marijuana should be legal or the social implications of alcohol or how dangerous alcohol is.

The questions relates to how people would be, would there be bootleg alcohol? How would it affect nights out? How would people meet women etc.

Begin!

AlmightyCushion

I don't know about anyone else but I'd find it impossible to meet women. You can't spike a joint.

Saila

kjl wrote: »

OK, firstly the rules:

lmao!

Well.. bars would probably be extremely boring. What with everyone just sitting down and not moving.

Superbus

The exact same.

krudler

They tried to make alchohol illegal in the 20s in America, didnt work very well, and again in the 90's, but a cunning local man was able to get around it by taking the beer buried in the town landfill, filling bowling balls with it then bowling them down a network of chutes to the local bar petshop, it was the cleverest thing he'd ever done.

bonerm

The world would be pretty much the same except that Domino's would have the same revenue as ExxonMobil.

Dean820

2am would probably contain a lot of people eating at takeaways...oh wait.

Sea Sharp

We'd have to meet women like they do in counties where people aren't all binge drinking alcoholics.

kjl

krudler wrote: »

They tried to make alchohol illegal in the 20s in America, didnt work very well, and again in the 90's, but a cunning local man was able to get around it by taking the beer buried in the town landfill, filling bowling balls with it then bowling them down a network of chutes to the local bar petshop, it was the cleverest thing he'd ever done.

In the 90's, was the Beer Barron not Homer Simpson?

amacachi

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

I don't know about anyone else but I'd find it impossible to meet women. You can't spike a joint.

Amateur.

stevejr

krudler wrote: »

They tried to make alchohol illegal in the 20s in America, didnt work very well, and again in the 90's, but a cunning local man was able to get around it by taking the beer buried in the town landfill, filling bowling balls with it then bowling them down a network of chutes to the local bar petshop, it was the cleverest thing he'd ever done.

Ah yes...the beer-baron strikes again!

tony1kenobi

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

I don't know about anyone else but I'd find it impossible to meet women. You can't spike a joint.

Training Day?

General General

Our population would be around 400,000, if not less.

stevejr

Without booze the world would be Lionel Hutz's vision of a world without lawyers!!

Ah no seriously, in historic terms alcohol just got there first. Had Sir Raleigh brought marjuana from the New World instead of tobacco maybe we'd be debating the opposite scenario now.

stevejr

Deleted User wrote: »

Well.. bars would probably be extremely boring. What with everyone just sitting down and not moving.

Have you never had a joint at a party??

ChocolateSauce

More lung cancer, less liver cancer.

Tigger

better

maxxie

paranoid and lazy

Elevator

it would be like a place id wanna live in

where do i sign up?

Johro

'Watchin the game, havin a bud' would be different...
WAAASSSSUUUUUUUUUUUUP!:D
Always sounded pretty stoned to me.

Johro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-slZNNxk9a4

RDM_83 again

Going to take a break from writing an archaeology essay. To write about archaeology.
If we didn't have alcohol Western Europe and China probably wouldn't be in the position they in now,
Alcoholic beverages were safer to drink than water all through the middle ages and previous eras.
Alcohol is a great bonding tool (nudge nudge wink wink) look at the spread of the Beaker Culture to see how people obviously like the idea of a piss up
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaker_culture
Alcohol gives you calories which is sh-qte now but wasn't back then.
If you look at the places and people that didn't have alcohol look at how sh-te they were and the position they are in now (though it could be just be that like the last man to the pub they're just trying to make up for lost time by binging on it)
And finally if you drink (even more than recommended amount) you live longer than people that don't.suckers.

http://www.huliq.com/10061/heavy-drinkers-outlive-teetotalers-says-study
and thats a proper scientific study.booya

now back to essay and my glass of wine

Naikon

Johro wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-slZNNxk9a4

Damm, I hate family guy:)

Senna

You'd have people complaining on forums about how alcohol should be legalised... think of all the revenue the government could make....people complaining that alcohol isn't a gate-way drug and using other countries as examples of how legalising alcohol hasn't had negative effects on their population.

smellslikeshoes

All that would happen is instead of nipping out of the pub and around the corner for a spliff you would nip out of the coffee shop around the corner for a beer :pac:

Celly Smunt

i don't know about anyone else but i'd much rather face a group of stoners on the street compared to a group of drunks..

kjl

RDM_83 again wrote: »

And finally if you drink (even more than recommended amount) you live longer than people that don't.suckers.

http://www.huliq.com/10061/heavy-drinkers-outlive-teetotalers-says-study
and thats a proper scientific study.booya

While I appreciate the academic style referencing of your argument, that paticular study is bull sh1t, firstly it's 3000 people surveyed and there is a 9% shift, that is 270 people. All this study shows is that people die at different rates. Oh and next time I want to see Harved referencing style

jesmed

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

I don't know about anyone else but I'd find it impossible to meet women. You can't spike a joint.

Ya can spike joints.....;)

Zebra3

Sea Sharp wrote: »

We'd have to meet women like they do in counties where people aren't all binge drinking alcoholics.

What counties are they?

kjl

Zebra3 wrote: »

What counties are they?

Saudi Arabia

Cú Giobach

RDM_83 again wrote: »

If we didn't have alcohol Western Europe and China probably wouldn't be in the position they in now,
Alcoholic beverages were safer to drink than water all through the middle ages and previous eras.

Here we drank beer because it was safer than water but in the Far east they drank tea (boiled water).

To answer the OP, very fooking chilled out and slightly paranoid. :cool:

TPD

I don't get the 'paranoid' thing. The majority of the paranoia that comes from cannabis is caused by its illegal status. I'm sure the folks sneaking sly drinks during the prohibition were pretty paranoid about it.

RMD

ChocolateSauce wrote: »

More lung cancer, less liver cancer.

Marijuana smoke in itself doesn't contain carcinogens. If tobacco is used in a joint then yes it contains carcinogens, but a blunt (Just Marijuana) doesn't. Marijuana itself is actually used as a medicinal treatment for certain types of cancer. But this discussion is for another topic to be honest.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729_pf.html

I wouldn't like alcohol being illegal, but hypothetically if it was there'd certainly be some big differences. One of the most beneficial being A&E departments wouldn't be full of various alcohol related injuries and sicknesses come the weekend.

orourkeda

Bollocks to illegal gargle

Cú Giobach

TPD wrote: »

I don't get the 'paranoid' thing. The majority of the paranoia that comes from cannabis is caused by its illegal status. I'm sure the folks sneaking sly drinks during the prohibition were pretty paranoid about it.

It makes you quite introspective and very self aware, and also very aware of little things around you that you wouldn't normally notice, consequently the mind can "wander" a bit and a degree of paranoia can and often does occur because of this.
The less experienced users often have a very high level of this, and because of the illegal status, this self awareness and tendency to paranoia, things can become quite overwhelming.

noodler

Cú Giobach wrote: »

It makes you quite introspective and very self aware, and also very aware of little things around you that you wouldn't normally notice, consequently the mind can "wander" a bit and a degree of paranoia can and often does occur because of this.
The less experienced users often have a very high level of this, and because of the illegal status, this self awareness and tendency to paranoia, things can become quite overwhelming.

Productivity would go way down.

Cú Giobach

noodler wrote: »

Productivity would go way down.

Through the floor.

iainconlon12

A LOT less fights.

AntiMatter

Less destructiveness, more creativity.

Trog

This thread would be a LOT longer.

Irish Guitarist

Prohibition already happened in America in the 1920s. As a result alcohol became even more popular. Al Capone made a fortune from bootlegging alcohol. There was so much crime the government had to legalise alcohol again.

landsleaving

Trog wrote: »

This thread would be a LOT longer.

This thread wouldn't have even started :pac:

PeakOutput

ChocolateSauce wrote: »

More lung cancer, less liver cancer.

that is actually factually incorrect, but seen as this isnt a debate i guess i can let it slide

PeakOutput

TPD wrote: »

I don't get the 'paranoid' thing. The majority of the paranoia that comes from cannabis is caused by its illegal status. I'm sure the folks sneaking sly drinks during the prohibition were pretty paranoid about it.

thats not really what its about

certain strains make the paranoia stand out more but its ore about being more self aware and bringing out your own insecurities and stuff like that i think

for example sitting in a group of people you make a joke and some people laugh but if your insecure about stuff like that when your high your way more likely to start thinking 'oh **** people didnt laugh they think im an idiot' or you are more aware that you might be doing something stupid and you get paranoid about it

the solution is simple, smoke a strain that dosnt make you paranoid

Agent Smith

Sales of kebabs would nosedive


sales of monstermunch would skyrocket!

Cú Giobach

Agent Smith wrote: »

Sales of kebabs would nosedive

Sales of kitchen utensils would nosedive, sales of anything you don't have to cook yourself would skyrocket. :cool:

Companero

Marijuana smoke in itself doesn't contain carcinogens

Not true. All Burning plant material is cargenogenic to some degree. In fact pound for pound marijuana is more cargenogenic than tobacco, its just that as its far less addictive than tobacco, people dont usually get intot the habit of smoking it 20 times a day, and its the repeated expoosure that really gives you cancer.

rantyface

You can make alcohol so easily from readily available foods that a ban just couldn't work!
I also wonder if it would be bad for the economy since alcohol is a big industry. Unless cannabis really took off, it could never make as much money or employ as many people as the alcohol industry. A couple of farmers could probably supply the whole country.

orourkeda

I think i'd be turning to the tried and trusted fetish porn for my kicks.

No gargle means you gotta get your kicks some way

PeakOutput

Companero wrote: »

Not true. All Burning plant material is cargenogenic to some degree. In fact pound for pound marijuana is more cargenogenic than tobacco, its just that as its far less addictive than tobacco, people dont usually get intot the habit of smoking it 20 times a day, and its the repeated expoosure that really gives you cancer.

references please

i havnt been able to find any studies that link smoking marijuana to cancer, just burning something does not result in a carcinogen as far as i am aware but if you have something that says otherwise im all ears (or eyes or whatever the right expression for the net is)