UK : Village goes from broadband 'notspot' to hotspot

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Village goes from broadband 'notspot' to hotspot

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/9276550.stm

The village of Ashby De La Launde in rural Lincolnshire has just 47 houses and no broadband at all.

Spencer Kelly meets some of the villagers who have taken the provision of high speed internet access into their own hands - by digging trenches in their own back gardens.

Galen

I saw them on Click too. I wonder would Eircom be up for the same idea or if my brother would be up for digging a two mile trench to the Bohola exchange.

PogMoThoin

Why dig? the ESB have poles all the way to Your door. Digging is the expensive part, fibre is cheaper than copper and only a few cents a meter

watty

http://annsgarden.com/poles/poles.htm

Galen

Eircom would be looking for danger money to go near ESB wires! Hell, so would I!

watty

Who said anything about eircom?

ANYONE could run fibre on Council, ESB and Eircom poles if the Government passed legislation regarding reasonable way - leave & shared access. ESB already run fibre separately on poles / lamps below the electric and also wrapped along the cable by "robot" on Trunk Routes/ HV cables.

Magnet, UPC, BT and Digiweb/Smart are in as good or better position to do Fibre. It doesn't have to be one company.

Or...

It could be all done via eNet and rented wholesale access to the ISPs


Or...
There could be a State/eNet joint venture with ESB, Bord Gais and the major ISPs and Mobile companies to run fibre. The Mobile operators would seriously benefit from FTTH/FTTC.

Then every pay wholesale according to usage.

PogMoThoin

Forget about Eircom, thats a private company who are finished. We still own the ESB. We'd need to get the ball rolling before Europe insists we privatize the ESB to pay our debts, its already being talked about.

Galen

It's just one of those days, put two and two together and got five.

You can forget about the ESB doing anything while we keep putting into power the usual gang of tossers. There's more chance of my dog having pups than any of us poor sucks in the countryside getting fibre to the door (mutt's neutered by the way)

clohamon

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Why dig?

Poles are hideous.

Galen

What's fibre range? My power comes from Kiltimagh - that's at least 6 miles as the crow flies, add on a couple more depending on the ESB.

watty

Global.
Huge even without repeaters (obsolete) or Optical Regeneration/Amplifiers. 20km without repeater or similar is common I think for single mode fibre.

Note Americans spell Fibre as Fiber when googling...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibre_to_the_x

GPON is popular
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gpon

Long-Reach Optical Access Networks

The concept of the Long-Reach Optical Access Network (LROAN) is to replace the optical/electrical/optical conversion that takes place at the local exchange with a continuous optical path that extends from the customer to the core of the network. Work by Davey and Payne at BT showed that significant cost savings could be made by reducing the electronic equipment and real-estate required at the local exchange or wire center [2]. A proof of concept demonstrator showed that it was possible to serve 1024 at 10GBit/s with 100km reach .

This technology has sometimes been termed Long-Reach PON, however, many argue that the term PON is no longer applicable as, in most instances, only the distribution remains passive.

If you can get ESB, you can get Fibre.

Galen

Are we dreaming or has anything been heard on the matter from ESB?

watty

ESB currently only do Backhaul & Backbone fibre. They have quite a lot. For 3rd parties ISP or Mobile operators needing X and Y interconnected they are often good. Better than eircom.

I never heard of any end user ESB fibre plans. My comment is that it's no harder to get fibre anywhere than ESB anywhere. Claiming that most Rural people can't be economically given fibre is thus obviously hogwash.

Galen

I have heard that Westnet in county Mayo uses ESB's Backhaul service. They're a brilliant bunch of people but I had to switch to Eircom because of my forest caused problems with their wireless service.