Nutrition Course in New Year

gorgo

Hi,

My girlfriend was hoping to start a nutrition course in Dublin in the newyear around January or February. I'm finding it hard as most of the courses start in September!

I was looking for help finding a course that people have tried and tested..

She works in Dublin city centre so a course not too far after a days work would be good,

Any help would be much appreciated,
Thanks

Renn

For some reason I thought this course was beginning in January but I could be wrong. Plus I'm not even sure if these three month things are worthwhile.

ciagr297

Apparently the DIT course is supposed to start again at end of Jan but I've seen no updates on the site. I had to call for info.

Is she looking for the course out of her own interest or to do something with it? There is new legislation/controls regarding the whole nutrition sector - as opposed to dietitian which is different

WildBoots

CNM do a part time course in naturopathic nutrition, it's a 3 year course, lectures are at weekends. Highly recommnded.

http://www.naturopathy.ie/courses-ireland/courses-nutrition-ireland/

gorgo

ciagr297 wrote: »

Is she looking for the course out of her own interest or to do something with it? There is new legislation/controls regarding the whole nutrition sector - as opposed to dietitian which is different

Its more out of her own interest at the minute but a 12 week course is good but a €1000 is a bit much in my eyes.

What are ECTS credits??

WildBoots wrote: »

CNM do a part time course in naturopathic nutrition, it's a 3 year course, lectures are at weekends. Highly recommnded.

http://www.naturopathy.ie/courses-ireland/courses-nutrition-ireland/

Since shes only getting interested in the subject I'd say 3yrs would be a bit much to commit to at this stage. thanks.

Sapsorrow

WildBoots wrote: »

CNM do a part time course in naturopathic nutrition, it's a 3 year course, lectures are at weekends. Highly recommnded.

http://www.naturopathy.ie/courses-ireland/courses-nutrition-ireland/

Haven't done this course (although I had a meeting with the director about it) but definitely wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Bit of a joke curriculum and it's a total rip off.

WildBoots

Sapsorrow wrote: »

Haven't done this course (although I had a meeting with the director about it) but definitely wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Bit of a joke curriculum and it's a total rip off.

I don't think this statement is fair, I've met tsome of the lecturers, actually went to some lectures to see what it was all about AND attended the clinics, as did a few friends. Great results and definitely not worth the above bashing! Maybe the course is coming from a different angle than what you are familiar with, but the quality of the practitioners coming out of it is second to none and they are having great results with people too.

Each to their own, horses for courses and all that jazz though!

metamorphosis

Tbh - just looking at the CNM link, it irked me.

Would put me well off applying for it, but then again I have not taken it so ..

What they have posted about the course on that link is all i needed to know not to do it.

El_Dangeroso

Wildboots, I don't doubt the sincerity of the lecturers for one second, but there is a fair amount of psuedoscience in that course.

If well recognised quakery like Iridology is an optional extra I don't hold out much hope that the rest of the information provided would be evidence based.

WildBoots

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

Wildboots, I don't doubt the sincerity of the lecturers for one second, but there is a fair amount of psuedoscience in that course.

If well recognised quakery like Iridology is an optional extra I don't hold out much hope that the rest of the information provided would be evidence based.

I respect your opinion, but with all due respect...what first hand experience do you actually have of something like iridology? I'm guessing you might probably say the same of the tongue and pulse diagnosis used in TCM? I would be happy to discuss these with you if you like, I think you'd find them interesting and I know you will be pleasantly surprised!

El_Dangeroso

WildBoots wrote: »

I respect your opinion, but with all due respect...what first hand experience do you actually have of something like iridology? I'm guessing you might probably say the same of the tongue and pulse diagnosis used in TCM? I would be happy to discuss these with you if you like, I think you'd find them interesting and I know you will be pleasantly surprised!

I'm definitely open-minded about hearing any evidence but as far as I have researched there is no difference between being diagnosed by Iridology and being diagnosed by guessing. Personal experience isn't really a reliable tool to evaluate anything by itself.

Sapsorrow

WildBoots wrote: »

I don't think this statement is fair, I've met tsome of the lecturers, actually went to some lectures to see what it was all about AND attended the clinics, as did a few friends. Great results and definitely not worth the above bashing! Maybe the course is coming from a different angle than what you are familiar with, but the quality of the practitioners coming out of it is second to none and they are having great results with people too.

Each to their own, horses for courses and all that jazz though!

No actually, I began learning about nutrition and health from the perspective of Traditional Chinese medicine (healing with wholefoods by paul pitchford was my bible), naturopathy and macrobiotics years ago. Then I went to college and learnt about things like biology, chemistry and physiology and the more I learnt, the more I realised how little sense most of these theories made. There are things in the world that are a mystery to us and there are things we know as absolutes and many of those absolutes completely contradict any possibility of a mechanism for things like iridology or pulse readings. One might assume I am just a close minded scientist type because of my educational background but I'm really not, rather someone who's been enlightened to the logic of the human body in my studies. That's why I think that course is as pointless as someone who's interested in clinical psychology taking a course astrology.

WildBoots

Sapsorrow wrote: »

No actually, I began learning about nutrition and health from the perspective of Traditional Chinese medicine (healing with wholefoods by paul pitchford was my bible), naturopathy and macrobiotics years ago. Then I went to college and learnt about things like biology, chemistry and physiology and the more I learnt, the more I realised how little sense most of these theories made. There are things in the world that are a mystery to us and there are things we know as absolutes and many of those absolutes completely contradict any possibility of a mechanism for things like iridology or pulse readings. One might assume I am just a close minded scientist type because of my educational background but I'm really not, rather someone who's been enlightened to the logic of the human body in my studies. That's why I think that course is as pointless as someone who's interested in clinical psychology taking a course astrology.

Steady on now Sapsorrow, look at the first word of that sentence you highlighted!

Sapsorrow

WildBoots wrote: »

Steady on now Sapsorrow, look at the first word of that sentence you highlighted!

Yes I saw that, I know you weren't making any definite assumptions but I was clarifying my point anyway.

teacosy

WildBoots wrote: »

I don't think this statement is fair, I've met tsome of the lecturers, actually went to some lectures to see what it was all about AND attended the clinics, as did a few friends. Great results and definitely not worth the above bashing! Maybe the course is coming from a different angle than what you are familiar with, but the quality of the practitioners coming out of it is second to none and they are having great results with people too.

Each to their own, horses for courses and all that jazz though!

Hi. Curious re the above - I see on their website that they deal with "Diseases of babies and the elderly". Please tell me that these practitioner do not give nutritional advice either of these potentially very vulnerable groups?
A quick perusal of the course content would show anyone with an appropriately recognized qualification in nutrition and /or dietetics that this course is, to say the least, quacktastic.

tHE vAGGABOND

I was thinking to myself "that may be an interesting thing to do for a few months in the new year"

Until I saw that its a grand for a 12 week course, so they can go and get fecked and I will read a different book about the subject instead

WildBoots

Sapsorrow wrote: »

No actually, I began learning about nutrition and health from the perspective of Traditional Chinese medicine (healing with wholefoods by paul pitchford was my bible), naturopathy and macrobiotics years ago. Then I went to college and learnt about things like biology, chemistry and physiology and the more I learnt, the more I realised how little sense most of these theories made. There are things in the world that are a mystery to us and there are things we know as absolutes and many of those absolutes completely contradict any possibility of a mechanism for things like iridology or pulse readings. One might assume I am just a close minded scientist type because of my educational background but I'm really not, rather someone who's been enlightened to the logic of the human body in my studies. That's why I think that course is as pointless as someone who's interested in clinical psychology taking a course astrology.

Ah, I see! Well that's good to know

ciagr297

WildBoots wrote: »

I don't think this statement is fair, I've met tsome of the lecturers, actually went to some lectures to see what it was all about AND attended the clinics, as did a few friends. Great results and definitely not worth the above bashing! Maybe the course is coming from a different angle than what you are familiar with, but the quality of the practitioners coming out of it is second to none and they are having great results with people too.

Each to their own, horses for courses and all that jazz though!

i was at the open day and took part in some lectures they gave. i have to say, coming from a science/engineering background, it came across as sincere but quack ish.
i really got suspicious when they rolled in the speakers extolling the virtues of flower remedies (which are mostly water), no meat and shooting sprouts.

there is a point up to which methods are working because the patient believes they are working....

the DIT course is expensive

WildBoots

teacosy wrote: »

Hi. Curious re the above - I see on their website that they deal with "Diseases of babies and the elderly". Please tell me that these practitioner do not give nutritional advice either of these potentially very vulnerable groups?

Is that you Helen?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo

teacosy

WildBoots wrote: »

Is that you Helen?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo

Har Har. And it would be funny too, except that some of the people who "qualify" from courses like this really can give quite unsafe advice. Which is bad enough for a healthy adult, but not quite so good in an infant "diagnosed" with multiple allergies.

WildBoots

teacosy wrote: »

Har Har. And it would be funny too, except that some of the people who "qualify" from courses like this really can give quite unsafe advice. Which is bad enough for a healthy adult, but not quite so good in an infant "diagnosed" with multiple allergies.

I can see why you're concerned but tbh, I've never heard of anything bad happening to anyone because of a scenario such as the one you proposed. In fact, I've heard more stories about ridiculous dietary advice being given by doctors, as my own GP told me with a grin..."I don't even know what a balanced diet is myself!"

Actually, I have...but it was by very extreme raw vegan "nutritionists", none of which reside in Ireland...telling parents it's perfectly fine for the child to be raised on a raw vegan diet. Now that's something I'd be concerned about.

Fister

Wildboots can i ask why did you decide not to do the nutrition course with CNM ? did you do one else where ? I am interested in starting the nutrition course which starts next w-end but reading some of the threads is worrying me about that decision !