02 octavia 1.9 tdi

red bull

Have a friend goin abroad selling his octavia. NCT 2/12 timing belt / water pump done. 146000 miles. Good car whats it worth ?

Gophur

€1,000 to €1,500

manatoo

Gophur wrote: »

€1,000 to €1,500

+1 Realistically you're not going to get too many more trouble free miles from it

EPM

manatoo wrote: »

+1 Realistically you're not going to get too many more trouble free miles from it

Bull crap. If that's serviced properly it will keep going forever (bar consumables obviously). That particular engine is well known for longevity.

statto25

manatoo wrote: »

+1 Realistically you're not going to get too many more trouble free miles from it

My 02 Octavia has nearly 170,000 miles on it. Bar the DMF failing it hasnt missed a beat. As long as it serviced and maintained it should keep going for another while yet!

manatoo

statto25 wrote: »

Bar the DMF failing it hasnt missed a beat.

EPM - Thought I said trouble free....maybe I didn't, let me check...oh yes, I did.

Gophur

EPM wrote: »

........... If that's serviced properly ...............

Here we are, 146,000 miles down the road, that's a major assumption.

I wouldn't give more than that for it, if you would I've a car to sell you!

manatoo

Gophur wrote: »

Here we are, 146,000 miles down the road, that's a major assumption.

I wouldn't give more than that for it, if you would I've a car to sell you!

+1

statto25

manatoo wrote: »

EPM - Thought I said trouble free....maybe I didn't, let me check...oh yes, I did.

The DMF failing does not mean the car is finished. Its a comsumable part. I have seen it going in cars with 70,000 miles never mind 150,000.
Once its replaced the car will keep going. I can vouch for that

manatoo

statto25 wrote: »

The DMF failing does not mean the car is finished. Its a comsumable part. I have seen it going in cars with 70,000 miles never mind 150,000.
Once its replaced the car will keep going. I can vouch for that

True, I agree, just was pointing out that the OP can't expect to have to spend nothing on an engine going from 146,000 to possibly 200k and beyond as proven by yourself. They are a good engine though and certainly worth the work. What mileage had you when it went?

statto25

manatoo wrote: »

True, I agree, just was pointing out that the OP can't expect to have to spend nothing on an engine going from 146,000 to possibly 200k and beyond as proven by yourself. They are a good engine though and certainly worth the work. What mileage had you when it went?

Mine went at 150,000. I actually replaced mine with a solid flywheel which was slightly cheaper. It is slightly noisier but nothing major at all. These old ALH engines are well able for it.

EPM

Gophur wrote: »

Here we are, 146,000 miles down the road, that's a major assumption.

I wouldn't give more than that for it, if you would I've a car to sell you!

Hence the reason I said if it had been looked after:rolleyes:

Long term reliability is strongly dependent on how well a car is looked after. Paying the money for a TB etc at that mileage (and to a lesser extent the relatively long NCT) would imply it is in reasonable nick.

manatoo wrote: »

EPM - Thought I said trouble free....maybe I didn't, let me check...oh yes, I did.

FFS, that is classed as a consumable really. Nasty when it fails but these things do fail with use. Also it hasnt failed on the car we're talking about. The only car I know of that doesn't need anything ever is your Carina tbh and that's not road legal from what you've said.

cabrwab

The oul lad had an 99 octavia still going after 370,000 miles relatively trouble free. Engine still worked fine.

Only real trouble he had was busting the sump on a bad road, he Got rid of it because it was going to need all new suspension parts to pass the nct it was cheaper to get another car .

Oh and on topic no more then 1500 Id think.

R.O.R

We've had loads of Octavia's with similar mileage back. Most haven't even had the clutch done.

Still more out there with higher mileage.

I've picked up a few myself. Clutch gets a bit heavy about 210,000km, but not much else wrong.

If it's not been done, I'd budget for a clutch and offer €1,000. With the clutch maybe up to €1,500

manatoo

EPM wrote: »

FFS, that is classed as a consumable really. Nasty when it fails but these things do fail with use. Also it hasnt failed on the car we're talking about. The only car I know of that doesn't need anything ever is your Carina tbh and that's not road legal from what you've said.

Whoa hold on a sec, apart from insurance, road tax and nct for road legality, what else do I need?? Crap there must be something I was missing....

manatoo

cabrwab wrote: »

The oul lad had an 99 octavia still going after 370,000 miles relatively trouble free. Engine still worked fine.

Only real trouble he had was busting the sump on a bad road, he Got rid of it because it was going to need all new suspension parts to pass the nct it was cheaper to get another car .

Oh and on topic no more then 1500 Id think.

370k, cripes thats massive...diesel I presume?

Dabzarch

I changed my (90bhp) 02 Octavia in April. My mechanic bought it off me! It had 222,000 on the clock and it is still going strong. He loves it! Never had any major mechanical issues with it, other than the usual tie rod etc..

I went up a year for a 110bhp with 115,000 on the clock. Different engine but still great!

The car is serviced every 6000 miles which I find helps in a big way. I do a full service every second service. I also found it helped to change the gearbox oil one in a while.

I'm no expert. far from it! Just drive a lot!

Just to add. I found the suspension very soft on the 02 with the 15 inch alloys. Burst a couple of sumps my self along the way. The 03 has a 16 inch alloy and seems to sit higher on the road. My mechanic got a spacer for the suspension? to fit to the 02 Octavia he bought off me. Think they were for a golf. Made a massive difference. so he tells me.

cabrwab

manatoo wrote: »

370k, cripes thats massive...diesel I presume?

Yeah the 1.9 not a fan of vag but Jesus does that engine go on and on never taxied used as his commuting mobile

GTE

If is the 90hp ALH or AGR engine you will have a grand wagon on your hands if it was reasonably well maintained.
Looking at TDI club in the USA you have those engines doing 300 to 500 thousand miles easily.

Those engines aren't as picky as the newer TDI's with regards to oil and things.
Having said that if you get the car it is worth running it through a oil and filter service using an oil you know is for the engine and then taking good care of it from then on. It is what I am doing as maybe the engine was not treated as well as it could have been in the past but at least from now on I know Im doing what I can to keep it in good order.

The 110hp engine is basically the same as the ALH 90hp so it will be just as reliable but the 130hp is the one which is picky on oil as it is a PD TDI I think

Gearbox's can be weak apparently but my AGR Golf is going well in all respects after 165000+ miles though I am having a small starting problem which could be just a slight timing issue but its not stopping the car from working at all.

I have had to get some tie rod and bush work done but the fact of the matter is a car at around the mileage Im talking about will need some of the consumable work done to it. Then you should get a similar mileage again before you need to get it done again depending on the parts.

EPM

manatoo wrote: »

Whoa hold on a sec, apart from insurance, road tax and nct for road legality, what else do I need?? Crap there must be something I was missing....

By your own admission your car is not road legal.

From yesterday

manatoo wrote: »

Have the NCT on Friday which it's deffo gonna fail. I know I don't that E on one of the tryes and I'm pretty sure at least one is below minimum thread. I'll get the list of things and worry about it then. It's not that I'm against fixing things, as you said yourself, 16 years old, worthless, theres no point in spending anything on it!

I presume it's parked up and going to the NCT centre on the back of a low loader then?

OP, if that car could be had for a grand or so you'd be smiling. Can't see it depreciating by too much either over the next couple of years if kept well.

yogimotorsport

Well i know a garage had 3 octavia TDIs in stock lately two 00s and a 01 all with over 170,000miles and they sold for 2200 and 2500,those octavias are making good money at the mo and they go forever

Bif

Sold my 2001 110bhp Elegance Octavia last Xmas for €2500, 160k, 2 year NCT, 6 months tax, new tyres, brakes and suspension but needed timing belt and A/C unit. I knew the guy who bought it and it is still going like a clock. Brilliant car and my advice make sure you get a 110bhp version!

SurferDude41

I bought a 99 Skoda Octavia Tdi, with 125k miles last summer.
It cost me €950
It seems to run forever on a tankfull of diesel. Had the timing belt done, as it was my first diesel car.
The engines and gearboxes are great on these cars, but some of the other mechanical parts wouldn't be of the same quality as a Volkswagen.

GTE

Bif wrote: »

Sold my 2001 110bhp Elegance Octavia last Xmas for €2500, 160k, 2 year NCT, 6 months tax, new tyres, brakes and suspension but needed timing belt and A/C unit. I knew the guy who bought it and it is still going like a clock. Brilliant car and my advice make sure you get a 110bhp version!

Indeed the 90hp has a lot of poke around the city but on the main roads it can be lacking in omph that you could need from time to time.

golfbgud

I see lots of Taxi drivers driving Skoda's for years - that's always a good sign IMHO.....

Realistically I think the seller will see more than €1500 for the car if he is patient. For €1500 it is potentially a very good buy, big comfy bus that will be decent mpg. If it had a good lash of NCT even better, NCT 'till feb 12, yeah, good buy me thinks if she is without issue at the moment. Realistically this time next year with a fresh test on her you'll see over a grand for it back.

I reckon the reason there are loads as taxis is because they are big, frugal and cheap compared to a Passat etc.

statto25

SurferDude41 wrote: »

I bought a 99 Skoda Octavia Tdi, with 125k miles last summer.
It cost me €950
It seems to run forever on a tankfull of diesel. Had the timing belt done, as it was my first diesel car.
The engines and gearboxes are great on these cars, but some of the other mechanical parts wouldn't be of the same quality as a Volkswagen.

I thought all mechanical parts were VAG so the same parts are used on Skoda, Audi and Volkswagen?

Leonard Hofstadter

146,000 miles is only warming up teritory for these engines, they can easily pass 300k when looked after properly.

The 1.9 TDI is the only engine VAG currently makes that actually works, it comes from an era when the VW group bothered to build cars and engines properly. The older non PD engines are even better for reliability, they're practically bulletproof. Only thing to watch out for is the DMF but that can go at any time and it is certainly not a reason to assume that the car is suddenly going to pack it all in.

Do they still make the 1.9TDi though ?

Leonard Hofstadter

I think they still sell the Superb with the 1.9 TDI.

The Octavia Tour also has the 1.9 TDI. Apart from that it is almost dead though, which is a pity as it is a great engine and will no doubt prove to be far more reliable than the newer 1.6 and 2.0 TDI lumps are.

Sure the 2.0 TDI PD is a disaster of an engine, hopefully the newer CR engines won't suffer from oil pump failure at 70k miles and the other expensive problems the 2.0 TDI PD has.

GTE

RoverJames wrote: »

Do they still make the 1.9TDi though ?

It died in the Octavia Tour when they updated that but the mighty engine is still there in the Supurb like the previous poster said.

I think they are still there for the Marine engines.
http://www.vw-m.de/index.php?id=399&L=1

The 1.9 SDI looks like it is still rocking along too.

That link doesnt work like I wanted but the engines I looked at where the TDI 75-4 and SDI 60-4

SurferDude41

statto25 wrote: »

I thought all mechanical parts were VAG so the same parts are used on Skoda, Audi and Volkswagen?

Engines and gearboxes are VAG, these are just great.
Im not exactly sure about suspension and braking components.
Don't be fooled for one second, into assuming the rest of the car is Volkswagen quality....It isn't.
Lots of silly electrical faults, poor road holding, lifeless steering.
Not a drivers car, if you have some extra cash, buy a Golf or Passat.

GTE

SurferDude41 wrote: »

Engines and gearboxes are VAG, these are just great.
Im not exactly sure about suspension and braking components.
Don't be fooled for one second, into assuming the rest of the car is Volkswagen quality....It isn't.
Lots of silly electrical faults, poor road holding, lifeless steering.
Not a drivers car, if you have some extra cash, buy a Golf or Passat.

The Mark 4 Golf/Boras (which the Octavia is based on) had their share of stupid faults including electrical and the Skoda inherited them.

Im pretty sure the Octavias have drum brakes on the rear where the Golf has disks all round.

Golf would have better suspension and things like that but its still all VAG through and through.

2002 onwards is when the Golf got a ride and handling upgrade.

SurferDude41

Was thinking of installing a whiteline antilift kit, and some stronger whiteline front and rear anti-rool bars on my 99 octavia Tdi.
Has anyone had this mod done? And what were the results?
The octavia is a good aul bus, but the handling is very poor indeed.

teednab-el

SurferDude41 wrote: »

Engines and gearboxes are VAG, these are just great.
Im not exactly sure about suspension and braking components.
Don't be fooled for one second, into assuming the rest of the car is Volkswagen quality....It isn't.
Lots of silly electrical faults, poor road holding, lifeless steering.
Not a drivers car, if you have some extra cash, buy a Golf or Passat.

What a load of crap. The skoda is a VW and the only difference is the badge!

superfish

red bull wrote: »

Have a friend goin abroad selling his octavia. NCT 2/12 timing belt / water pump done. 146000 miles. Good car whats it worth ?

Gophur wrote: »

€1,000 to €1,500

thats just not true its prob worth around 2300 wit 2 year nct you would only get a 00 for 1000 to 1500 even then you would be doing well. just look on gumtree or done deal or in the dealer magazine to get a realistic price

and by no means is that big millage on an octavia

superfish

superfish wrote: »

thats just not true its prob worth around 2300 wit 2 year nct

So with a one year NCT what would you value it at because the car in this thread did not have a 2 year NCT. Weird thread to resurrect too.

superfish

RoverJames wrote: »

So with a one year NCT what would you value it at because the car in this thread did not have a 2 year NCT. Weird thread to resurrect too.

lol I was unaware I was resurrecting this thread lol Im no expert but all you have to do is take a look on a few websites or magazines to get a decent true value of a vehicle, ive asked here for similar advice before on an astra I used to own and a couple of people said it was only worth 800 to 1000 max it was a 01 wit 2 year nct I sold it the next day and got 1900 euro

GTE

RoverJames wrote: »

So with a one year NCT what would you value it at because the car in this thread did not have a 2 year NCT. Weird thread to resurrect too.

I dont know what to value it at but it seems reasonable that with the car that it is and the target market it appeals to you can get away with having a clean example of it going for a bit over the odds. Whether that is justified or not is another thing.

eiei0

I got 4k for a 02 with a few months NCT and no tax on a trade in a few weeks back.

I ripped the hand of the dealer as I knew he had over priced the Octavia.

the car that we got was well priced and so far has been ok.

EPM

eiei0 wrote: »

I got 4k for a 02 with a few months NCT and no tax on a trade in a few weeks back.

I ripped the hand of the dealer as I knew he had over priced the Octavia.

the car that we got was well priced and so far has been ok.

I think in reality you didn't. The dealer more than likely had a fair bit of wiggle room built into the price of the new car.

eiei0

Maybe so but going on the cost to change. I saved 2k over another dealer with an almost identical car.

still think I got a good price for the Octavia

EPM wrote: »

I think in reality you didn't. The dealer more than likely had a fair bit of wiggle room built into the price of the new car.