IMO gone???

punchdrunk

hi folks,the irish military online website/forum seems to be m.i.a
anyone know whats happened??

Steyr

Seen that myself, I know GoldieFish is a member here, im sure he can explain soon enough.

punchdrunk

I'm on there myself,but didn't hear about any trouble with the site?

Capt Blackadder

Looks like we're getting a bail out from them across the water at Arrse.

http://www.arrse.co.uk/ireland-ie-irish-defence-force/153850-imo-seems-dead-anyone-know-why.html

They are going to host it, as a seperate entity, as they do for the Navy version of Arrse, NavyNet. So all seems well.

testicle

The owner hasn't paid his bills, so the hoster suspended it. In saying that, I don't see why he was apparently paying €1000 for it. The hosters own site has packages from €2.37 a month up to €150 a year. It wasn't that busy a site.

OS119

the last two pages of the 'off-topic' thread have been covering this - albeit somewhat irreverantly...

have a read of that and the arrse thread for the news, gossip and unsubtle digs!

Poccington

This is the second thread where a user has attempted to make allegations about Boomer and the donation's required to keep IMO running. They've been made with zero proof.

If it happens again, infractions will follow.

Does that mean we can have major IMO/ARRSE p*ssups?

HUZZAH!!!

goldie fish

Steyr wrote: »

Seen that myself, I know GoldieFish is a member here, im sure he can explain soon enough.

Since when Am I a spokesman for IMO?

I am getting tired of people I don't know sending me messages asking about boomer too. He is a member of Boards.ie, if you have an issue with him, talk to him.

Steyr

goldie fish wrote: »

Since when Am I a spokesman for IMO?

I am getting tired of people I don't know sending me messages asking about boomer too. He is a member of Boards.ie, if you have an issue with him, talk to him.

Never said you were. Just said you might have been able to explain.

goldie fish

Steyr wrote: »

Never said you were. Just said you might have been able to explain.

Well, from what I can gather...

when you put www.irishmilitaryonline.com into your address bar, and click enter...
Irish militaryonline does not come up.

You know as much as me otherwise.

Steyr

goldie fish wrote: »

Well, from what I can gather...

when you put www.irishmilitaryonline.com into your address bar, and click enter...
Irish militaryonline does not come up.

You know as much as me otherwise.

Fair enough.

goldie fish

http://www.arrse.co.uk/ireland-ie-irish-defence-force/153850-imo-seems-dead-anyone-know-why-3.html

Steyr

Thanks for the link Sir.

mick867

I like ARRSE and I like IMO,

but I am not sold on the idea of a merger/takeover.

testicle

Poccington wrote: »

This is the second thread where a user has attempted to make allegations about Boomer and the donation's required to keep IMO running. They've been made with zero proof.

If it happens again, infractions will follow.

The only allegations I made was that he was paying too much for the product he gets.

Regards etc.
Alligator

OS119

mick867 wrote: »

I like ARRSE and I like IMO,

but I am not sold on the idea of a merger/takeover.

its not ideal - but the alternative is someone putting their hand in their pocket for €1000 a year.

the down side is that it may reduce IMO's credibility and influence within Irish media/government circles as its 'no longer Irish', however it will almost certainly expose IMO to a much wider audience, and, TBH, bring in a much wider range of members. this may act as a counter balance to the 'its no longer Irish' issue with regards to its credibility.

Chopper21

OS119 wrote: »

its not ideal - but the alternative is someone putting their hand in their pocket for €1000 a year.

the down side is that it may reduce IMO's credibility and influence within Irish media/government circles as its 'no longer Irish', however it will almost certainly expose IMO to a much wider audience, and, TBH, bring in a much wider range of members. this may act as a counter balance to the 'its no longer Irish' issue with regards to its credibility.

Since when does IMO have influence in government? Unfortunately, it sems to me that not one person in the Government or in the Irish media cares two hoots about the Irish DF nor have they ever. With the nearly 14% reduction in budget coupled with the previous reductions and the (seemingly never ending) personnel cuts (which are to be followed with more personnel cuts if enough savings aren't met) we are witnessing the lifeblood of the DF being slowly sucked away and I have seen one little paragraph on it in a paper.

The mil authorities will have some jobtrying to sell a future deployment too if by 2014, the finances are still in bits and the powers that be have become used to the reduced expenditure on the DF. Once these things are 'temporarily' put on hold, it becomes increasingly harder not to make them permanent. The way things are heading, with the pitiful amount we spend on the DF, it will soon be even harder to justify the existance of a lot of it in its present form because it will be so under resourced, manned and financed. The AC is a great example, what should be one of our most important arms.

The typical Irish solution to this? Cop on and take our sovereignty seriously at last? Not a chance. Disband the whole thing! To hear them in the Dail going on about our sovereignty and neutrality now when all they've done is treat it as a joke for so many years! The whole thing is enough to make you sick.

I can only imagine what morale is like in the Defence Forces.

p.s. I realise this is nothing to do with IMO, just got carried away in my rant!

Donny5

You know, Chopper, the reality is that if Defence was an important issue to the voting population, then the government would have difficulty cutting the budget and numbers so often and so much. It's not simply the legislative branch that doesn't care about the DF: most people don't care and don't want to know.

Eventually, when they're needed, people will decry the lack of a useful DF, but at the minute, it's not a priority. Knowing this, the DoD will have to make the best of it. More money isn't going to come.

Chopper21

I know man, that's always been the case. Out of all the developed countries in the world, our attitude towards our armed forces is probably the most indifferent and dismissive. The reason for this is because of the way Defence has been always treated as a joke by successive govts. The lack of an external military threat, coupled to this, and you can understand joe public's point of view.

The government of the day however, is not joe public and one would presume they would appreciate the reasons and needs for a DF better than anyone. Everyone in the country would wake up to this fairly lively if the Reds had landed in years ago but the ordinary public are blissfully ignorant of the haven that is our unprotected coastline for drug smuggling, they never hear about the illegal fishing and smuggling that goes undetected because we posess (almost) zero aerial and indeed naval assets to intercept them. They are largely unaware of the farce that was making our army lump all their gear across a desert in Africa and then beg the French to please give us some helicopters or let us have a bit if space on their cargo flights to Chad because we don't have one plane ourselves. It is however, the job of the legislitive branch to care about these things and that is the problem.

I'm not suggesting we increase our expenditure because I know we don't have a bob, I'm just ranting at why our pitiful leaders have ensured through their years of neglect, that the DF will probably come out of this in a few years a pale shadow of its former self. Bear in mind, the current soldier is equipped with great gear on an individual level (even if we have feck all else) despite the levels of funding, not because of it. Most if it was paid for by the money from barrack closures which the army could keep. Anyway, there's no point giving out about it anymore I suppose so I'll leave it go at that, rant over!

OS119

Chopper21 wrote: »

Since when does IMO have influence in government?

i'm pretty sure i read on IMO that there sometimes seemed to be a remarkable simularity between some posts on IMO (i think particularly in relation to matters Naval) and some very pointed (and for the concerned minister, embarrassing) subsequent questions both on the floor of the Dail and in committee.

questions that seemed, shall we say, a bit outside the normal generalities that you might expect of a TD.

Arrse and Pprune are the same - niether are official, but both get used by the media and politicians as a mine for information and questions without which the MoD could get away with their normal obfuscation/disinformation/lies.

agree with the rest of your posts though...

Steyr

Chopper21 wrote: »

The mil authorities will have some jobtrying to sell a future deployment too if by 2014

You know ATM they are indeed actively looking for an Overseas Mission with the UN? It was in one or two papers this week.

Chopper21

Steyr wrote: »

You know ATM they are indeed actively looking for an Overseas Mission with the UN? It was in one or two papers this week.

I presume that's the military authorities that are looking and you'd expect that planning to be going on. The govt however have the final say and the reduction in overseas allowance pretty much says they are not planning on sending any large group overseas anytime soon.

iceage

Arrse/IMO merger brilliant idea! The verbal will be only spectacular.:p

haven't seen a decent farkin joke round here in ages.

Bad CO

Just to introduce myself, I'm the site admin/co-owner of ARRSE, Rum Ration & Rear Party. We own our own servers and have managed to create a sustainable model for running these sites that means we are not totally reliant on income from members to keep them online.

We'd like to offer irishmilitaryonline.com a permanent home on our servers and have made this offer to boomer. Clearly there are considerable sensitivities with guys with strong links to the Brit Military being involved with an Irish Military website and we're well aware of them.

Our three main sites are very different in terms of character so we're used to adopting admin/moderation policy to achieve this. We'd hope that by sticking to site development (functionality, themes, etc) and leaving moderation to the existing mods we'd be able to achieve this on IMO.

I'm very happy to answer any questions/concerns that people may have.

We're also putting together a mailing list for anyone interested - pse subscribe here.

OS119

iceage wrote: »

haven't seen a decent farkin joke round here in ages.

have we not discussed my sexual athleticism?

OS119

the IMO/Arrse deal is off, one of the mods stumped up the cash (and therefore might own it).

there is however a dark rumour that Tim Horgan is now the owner...

goldie fish

Its BAAAACK!!!

OS119

OS119 wrote: »

the IMO/Arrse deal is off....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltjT25GyXTM

OS119 wrote: »

........one of the mods stumped up the cash.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaxVwD-HvNU

OS119 wrote: »

there is however a dark rumour that Tim Horgan is now the owner...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s

Steyr

OS119 wrote: »

there is however a dark rumour that Tim Horgan is now the owner...

Your having a laugh ?

OS119

Steyr wrote: »

Your having a laugh ?

thats the rumour - no idea if its true, and apart from RGJ reporting it on arrse i've no idea where its from.

if its true (and i note that on arrse Bad CO said that one of the mods had stumped up the dosh), it might make IMO a bit, err... 'challenging'.

goldie fish

OS119 wrote: »

thats the rumour - no idea if its true, and apart from RGJ reporting it on arrse i've no idea where its from.

if its true (and i note that on arrse Bad CO said that one of the mods had stumped up the dosh), it might make IMO a bit, err... 'challenging'.

Tim Horgan did not stump up the cash. Jaysus you people have no sense of humor.

Poccington

OS119 wrote: »

have we not discussed my sexual athleticism?

:eek:

The goggles, they do nothing!

iceage

At least he didn't post pics.;)

OS119

i have videos....

iceage

....The horror.

iceage

So which one of the Mods stepped in and stumped up the readdies? Is it a dark and guarded secret to stop the Brits sneaking in the back door..so to speak.