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Ill be voting Fianna fail in the next election

  • 08-12-2010 11:49am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 101 ✭✭


    FF are the only party that should be running the country right now, they are the only party who know what they are doing, they are a very fair party, they showed this yesterday by giving the poor an extra €40 for fuel this winter. FF are a party who care about the irish language, what have the blueshirts ever done for the irish language? Infact the blueshirts want to stop mandatory irish for leaving cert. The labour party dont have a clue, they are pro national id cards, giving move and move dole handouts. What this country really needs now is a strong FF Party with 88 dail seats and ill be canvassing for FF And giving my 3 FF candadates 1 2 and 3 in the next election.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    Kunle wrote: »
    FF are the only party that should be running the country right now, they are the only party who know what they are doing, they are a very fair party, they showed this yesterday by giving the poor an extra €40 for fuel this winter. FF are a party who care about the irish language, what have the blueshirts ever done for the irish language? Infact the blueshirts want to stop mandatory irish for leaving cert. The labour party dont have a clue, they are pro national id cards, giving move and move dole handouts. What this country really needs now is a strong FF Party with 88 dail seats and ill be canvassing for FF And giving my 3 FF candadates 1 2 and 3 in the next election.


    And its because of people like you that this shower of incompetent shameless cretins got another 4 years in the last election to destroy our country. If your only 2 concerns are the Irish language and a fuel allowance (only given due to the weather at present, any governing party would have done that), you must be very blind to the mess your beloved FF have caused.
    Do us a favor when the next election comes around and stay at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    If you can't manage more than an insult in response to the OP, don't post, because you will get infracted.

    moderately,
    Scofflaw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭LostinBlanch


    Kunle wrote: »
    FF are the only party that should be running the country right now, they are the only party who know what they are doing, they are a very fair party, they showed this yesterday by giving the poor an extra €40 for fuel this winter. FF are a party who care about the irish language, what have the blueshirts ever done for the irish language? Infact the blueshirts want to stop mandatory irish for leaving cert. The labour party dont have a clue, they are pro national id cards, giving move and move dole handouts. What this country really needs now is a strong FF Party with 88 dail seats and ill be canvassing for FF And giving my 3 FF candadates 1 2 and 3 in the next election.

    I'm wondering if you actually believe any of this, given that it is so wrong I wouldn't be able to start?

    However I think a picture says a thousand words.
    picture.php?albumid=527&pictureid=8102

    Your new avatar perhaps?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,307 ✭✭✭T runner


    Kunle wrote: »
    FF are the only party that should be running the country right now, they are the only party who know what they are doing, they are a very fair party, they showed this yesterday by giving the poor an extra €40 for fuel this winter. FF are a party who care about the irish language, what have the blueshirts ever done for the irish language? Infact the blueshirts want to stop mandatory irish for leaving cert. The labour party dont have a clue, they are pro national id cards, giving move and move dole handouts. What this country really needs now is a strong FF Party with 88 dail seats and ill be canvassing for FF And giving my 3 FF candadates 1 2 and 3 in the next election.

    How do you feel about FFs blowing up of the property and credit bubble which has ultimately sank our economy?


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    why are people so concerned with PARTIES, personally for me its about POLICIES. FF have messed up, I say FF, in reality it was a few bad eggs in a party, FG are a shower of cowards, wouldn't want them anywhere near power, labour... well thats the last think we need imo. In reality theres no party that anyone can chose with confidence, in that case, I'm voting for whoever I feel will help ME in this recession and secondly help THE COUNTRY. Voting with spite in your hearts is only going to cloud and educated choice... people need to stop blaming, and start thinking about how to improve the future


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭flutered


    .. people need to stop blaming, and start thinking about how to improve the future[/QUOTE]
    i suggest the obliberation of the failures and their prop the gomgreens for a start, then we renegotiate the super loan, we need the legistation enacted so as to ensure whose who connived to bring the banks into such a mess be seen to face the full rigiours of the law, we need to sow the seeds of a better economy, something that can be harvested in the future, an alternative to taxing and hitting the less well off in our society.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Kunle wrote: »
    FF are the only party that should be running the country right now, they are the only party who know what they are doing

    "I don't accept that".

    Have you seen something that the rest of us haven't ?

    €40 is great news! We can put it towards the €22,000 per person that Anglo has cost us, or maybe towards the property tax, or maybe towards our petrol bill, or maybe towards a flight out of this cesspit.

    But don't worry, it wouldn't be the first time that FF members seemed to have a different viewpoint to people in the real world; we told Bertie that his view was skewed and he told us to you-know-what.

    Be aware, though, that if you do canvass in my area I'll be following you around with a printed list of FF's cock-ups and the astronomical cost they've landed on every man, woman & child in this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭donal666


    This is obviously just someone trying to get peoples' backs up...FF will get what they deserve in time.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 utnapishtim


    Its a moot case is it not.

    We should not have joined the Euro, just like the american system - the federal reserve, every "euro" we have in circulation is given to us "at interest". We can never, ever, ever, get out of debth, no matter what any of the parties say - it is not possible.

    Lets put it into perspective;

    Lets say I am your only source of money - the euro
    You want to buy 10 euros from me.
    I give you 10 euros but you have to give me back 10 euros + 20% interest.
    You agree.
    You then have to borrow 20% of 10 euro, again, from me, to pay me back.
    Now you owe 10 euro + 20% + 20% of 20% interest. All of which you have to borrow off me to pay me back.

    How will you ever get out of debth with me?

    Thats the situation we are in.

    So all arguments, all parties, are moot until we go back to a currency where we are not in perpetual debth.

    What exactly was wround with the Irish pound? where we owned our own money, could inflate or deflate it without worrying about owing foreign powers anything if we do.

    So, its moot case - unless all your arguments begin with - "lets get out of the euro (not talking about europe here, or the eu)" then none of your arguments make sense or have any merit.


    We voted no to Lisbon, and then they forced a revote and somehow fooled the country into voting yes 2nd time round.

    Get rid of FF, FG, GP, the lot of them.

    Ad an extra "check box" to the voting cards at the next general election and call it "no confidence in any party or independent"

    That way, if I choose not to vote, I can choose that box - and then my vote is counted and if the majority vote that way, rather than put one devil or another into power, the whole lot are sacked, a provisional gov put into place and a new election called with none of the origional members or parties involved, at all. A vote of no confidence would allow us, the public, in a democratic way, to get rid of the useless knobheads in power.

    I'd like to see us go back to the irish pound, default on loans and begin again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Waestrel


    Kunle wrote: »
    FF are the only party that should be running the country right now, they are the only party who know what they are doing, they are a very fair party, they showed this yesterday by giving the poor an extra €40 for fuel this winter. FF are a party who care about the irish language, what have the blueshirts ever done for the irish language? Infact the blueshirts want to stop mandatory irish for leaving cert. The labour party dont have a clue, they are pro national id cards, giving move and move dole handouts. What this country really needs now is a strong FF Party with 88 dail seats and ill be canvassing for FF And giving my 3 FF candadates 1 2 and 3 in the next election.


    Yes, 80 years of mandatory Irish has not revived the language, but I'm sure another ten years of forcing it down our students throats will definitely do the job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭gouche


    In reality theres no party that anyone can chose with confidence....

    Really agree with this point. Finding it difficult to decide who to vote for in next general. Considering abstaining altogether.

    This country needs a new political party. FF and FG are both too centrist to be the two main parties in this country. And I don't want to talk about Sinn Féin, Labour et al.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭irishh_bob


    Kunle wrote: »
    FF are the only party that should be running the country right now, they are the only party who know what they are doing, they are a very fair party, they showed this yesterday by giving the poor an extra €40 for fuel this winter. FF are a party who care about the irish language, what have the blueshirts ever done for the irish language? Infact the blueshirts want to stop mandatory irish for leaving cert. The labour party dont have a clue, they are pro national id cards, giving move and move dole handouts. What this country really needs now is a strong FF Party with 88 dail seats and ill be canvassing for FF And giving my 3 FF candadates 1 2 and 3 in the next election.

    FF gave pensioners an extra 40 euro for fuel yesterday , pensioners are not poor , on the contary , many of them are among the richest in the country


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    gouche wrote: »
    Really agree with this point. Finding it difficult to decide who to vote for in next general. Considering abstaining altogether.

    This country needs a new political party. FF and FG are both too centrist to be the two main parties in this country. And I don't want to talk about Sinn Féin, Labour et al.

    I agree with the second paragraph, but please don't abstain; that will allow those with a vested interest in keeping FF in situ gain an advantage.

    The "best on offer" mightn't be great, but at least help ensure that we get the best of the bad lot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 utnapishtim


    irishh_bob wrote: »
    FF gave pensioners an extra 40 euro for fuel yesterday , pensioners are not poor , on the contary , many of them are among the richest in the country


    Yeah? - My 70 year old mother would disagree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭gouche


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    I agree with the second paragraph, but please don't abstain; that will allow those with a vested interest in keeping FF in situ gain an advantage.

    The "best on offer" mightn't be great, but at least help ensure that we get the best of the bad lot.

    I've never not voted in an election I was eligible for but am tempted!
    I will prob make the decision based on the best candidate in my constituency on the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Yeah? - My 70 year old mother would disagree.
    He said many not all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 234 ✭✭scr123


    Kunle wrote: »
    FF are the only party that should be running the country right now, they are the only party who know what they are doing, they are a very fair party, they showed this yesterday by giving the poor an extra €40 for fuel this winter. FF are a party who care about the irish language, what have the blueshirts ever done for the irish language? Infact the blueshirts want to stop mandatory irish for leaving cert. The labour party dont have a clue, they are pro national id cards, giving move and move dole handouts. What this country really needs now is a strong FF Party with 88 dail seats and ill be canvassing for FF And giving my 3 FF candadates 1 2 and 3 in the next election.


    You could be a wind up artist but whatever its great to see someone besides myself shouting for FF. Its time FF supporters came on the internet and did battle for the party against the ABFF who have without a shadow of doubt taken over and spreading their venom of not only FF but the country as a whole. Every litle thing that goes wrong they are on the net gloating and praying in their own twisted way for the country to collapse completely and FF to face oblivion. They do not care about the country, they are petty little party hacks convinced they have FF where they want us and after all these years and after all the elections they have lost they think they see a future for themselves as the savious of the nation. Let them have their moment of glory. the elections are on the way and we in FF will come out fighting like never before. Lets see what they are like when up against the might of the FF machine. Lets see what they are like when the people of Ireland ask them, " Okay, we know all about FF, what about you lot ?"
    The ABFF bring to mind the old saying, " There shall be weeping and knashing of teeth and those who have no teeth can gum it ! "

    FF has brought this country from abject poverty to riches, despite the recession, we never dreamt of and will eventually be returned by the people in their our of need when the ABFF come to power and multiply our problems

    Long live the glorius FF party !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    scr123 wrote: »
    You could be a wind up artist but whatever its great to see someone besides myself shouting for FF. Its time FF supporters came on the internet and did battle for the party against the ABFF who have without a shadow of doubt taken over and spreading their venom of not only FF but the country as a whole. Every litle thing that goes wrong they are on the net gloating and praying in their own twisted way for the country to collapse completely and FF to face oblivion. They do not care about the country, they are petty little party hacks convinced they have FF where they want us and after all these years and after all the elections they have lost they think they see a future for themselves as the savious of the nation. Let them have their moment of glory. the elections are on the way and we in FF will come out fighting like never before. Lets see what they are like when up against the might of the FF machine. Lets see what they are like when the people of Ireland ask them, " Okay, we know all about FF, what about you lot ?"
    The ABFF bring to mind the old saying, " There shall be weeping and knashing of teeth and those who have no teeth can gum it ! "

    FF has brought this country from abject poverty to riches, despite the recession, we never dreamt of and will eventually be returned by the people in their our of need when the ABFF come to power and multiply our problems

    Long live the glorius FF party !!

    You will be obliterated.

    Regards,
    Nyarlothothep


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    scr123 wrote: »
    They do not care about the country, they are petty little party hacks convinced they have FF where they want us

    Absolute and utter bull, considering I have no party allegience whatsoever. And I take serious objection to your arrogant claim that I don't care about my country; a country that your party and its cronyism has ruined - hopefully temporarily, but ruined nonetheless.

    I tell you what, if you actually base a post on facts and reality for a change, I promise to read it and take it seriously.....even without taking a course in how to "deal with you" I promise to do my best.
    FF has brought this country from abject poverty to riches and then back again

    Strange omission, but hey......I'd nearly expect that at this stage.

    Stop trolling and spouting crap and maybe then RTE will let you actually contribute to The Frontline.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭femur61


    This post has been deleted.

    I was talking to an Irish teacher recently and he said the greatest resources of our money was forcing people to learn a language that is of no benefit to them. Would people stop living in past, I think of my futures and my childrens future. Now I've rearing them for export.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 utnapishtim


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    He said many not all.
    No, he didn't - read it again - he said, many are amoung the richest, which is what you are referring too. What he did say was that "they are not poor".

    Everyone who is looking to the pension to survive are struggling, show me one case where someone without an additional income besides their hard earned live long pension is not struggling.

    Maybe I am wrong, but I don't see any cases which verify what he said


    Opinons don't matter. Facts matter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭hobochris


    scr123 wrote: »

    FF has brought this country from abject poverty to riches, despite the recession, we never dreamt of and will eventually be returned by the people in their our of need when the ABFF come to power and multiply our problems

    FF took the credit for the work of the previous government and then managed to **** it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭Laminations


    scr123 wrote: »
    You could be a wind up artist but whatever

    Evidence that your position and opinion re FF is so retarded that you yourself can't even tell a fellow supporter from a wind up artist. Have a look at the last Frontline and see how many inbreeders you can spot in the audience. I counted quite a lot, says it all about FF


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭Laminations


    Kunle wrote: »
    ill be canvassing for FF And giving my 3 FF candadates 1 2 and 3 in the next election.

    You are obviously a Kun.... le


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 536 ✭✭✭HyperSkypeWiper


    PS - dropping the mandatory Irish requirement for the leaving would be a good thing both for the country and the actual language.

    I'm in 5th year now and I can tell you first hand, that if this is brought in, nobody would be doing Irish, unless it were to be dumbed down a lot. It's simply too hard, even if you 'love' the language. This would destroy the Irish language imo :(

    Why anybody thinks it will be good for the language, I just cannot understand. If you were trying to maximize your points in the LC, why would you pick a hard subject, even if you liked it, when you had a great chance of an A1 in an easier subject. I know 5, at least, who are taking up an extra subject just so that they can discount Irish for their points calculation.

    It's the way Irish is taught which needs reform. In 12 years of Irish and 4 years of French, I honestly know just as much French as I do Irish, if not more. Why am I being asked to find the allegorical meaning of a poem when I cannot speak fluently?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    You have to be joking op. FF are forcing the people of this country into poverty and enconmic slavery because banks are more important than people and because they cannot do maths.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭DB10


    You will be hammered for your opinion OP, but it's sad that some people don't realise FG in power next year will do alot more harm to the country than FF will do next year.

    Of course it is FF fault we are where we are but if you look at the future for a second, FF look better fit to run the country than FG do. FF need to be held accountable and they will be, but now is not the time to do it.

    And of course there is alternatives out there such as the Labour Party and Sinn Fein, but as we see to often the parish pump politics is still very much around and due to family allegiance and history the same people will only ever vote for FF or FG.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,692 ✭✭✭Danger781


    I reckon we get the Pirate party into power..

    http://pirateparty.ie/


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    Scofflaw wrote: »
    If you can't manage more than an insult in response to the OP, don't post, because you will get infracted.

    moderately,
    Scofflaw

    surely the OP is more deserving of an infraction for trolling


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    DB10 wrote: »
    Of course it is FF fault we are where we are but if you look at the future for a second, FF look better fit to run the country than FG do. FF need to be held accountable and they will be, but now is not the time to do it.

    Try looking at it for longer than a second.

    The ONLY argument for FF to keep going is because they're so unpopular because of their decisions and actions to date that there should be no risk of them shirking the required decisions in order to retain popularity.

    However yesterday's hammering of the people at the bottom yet again proves that even when they have a chance to do something right, they bottle it and hit the lowest paid, protecting their cronies and themselves from pain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    i as a carer disagree with you.

    I am now down money twice and have not the ability to change my situation.

    I find it funny that the oaps were not touched for this reason and me with a mortage and kids was....

    Then i realised that having returned the medical card this year and now not discounted in the budget they are doing the same old same old of protecting the voteing population...

    I just hope the younger disenfranchised voter realises this and gets up off there arse on polling day...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭Laminations


    DB10 wrote: »
    You will be hammered for your opinion OP, but it's sad that some people don't realise FG in power next year will do alot more harm to the country than FF will do next year.

    FF stuck a thorn in this countrys heart and have pissed about for two years trying to pull it out but instead pushing it further in. Pulling the thorn out will of course hurt, we all need to hurt to get the country back in black. FG will not harm the country but they might harm your pockets and you'll blame them for giving you the harsh medicine that's needed to cure the years of FF mismanagement. As usual FG will right the wrongs of FF and there are many gullible gombeens who'll chastise them for it rather than point their scorn at FF
    Of course it is FF fault we are where we are but if you look at the future for a second, FF look better fit to run the country than FG do. FF need to be held accountable and they will be, but now is not the time to do it.

    So when and how will they be held accountable? What does accountability look like? Why should it be deferred? And how in Gods name do FF look better fit to run the country? Give some examples please. Noonan ran rings around Lenihan. We have turned numerous corners. The government negotiated a dud deal with the EU/ECB, their banking strategy has failed, so how are they best suited?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,025 ✭✭✭optogirl


    scr123 wrote: »
    You could be a wind up artist but whatever its great to see someone besides myself shouting for FF. Its time FF supporters came on the internet and did battle for the party against the ABFF who have without a shadow of doubt taken over and spreading their venom of not only FF but the country as a whole. Every litle thing that goes wrong they are on the net gloating and praying in their own twisted way for the country to collapse completely and FF to face oblivion. They do not care about the country, they are petty little party hacks convinced they have FF where they want us and after all these years and after all the elections they have lost they think they see a future for themselves as the savious of the nation. Let them have their moment of glory. the elections are on the way and we in FF will come out fighting like never before. Lets see what they are like when up against the might of the FF machine. Lets see what they are like when the people of Ireland ask them, " Okay, we know all about FF, what about you lot ?"
    The ABFF bring to mind the old saying, " There shall be weeping and knashing of teeth and those who have no teeth can gum it ! "

    FF has brought this country from abject poverty to riches, despite the recession, we never dreamt of and will eventually be returned by the people in their our of need when the ABFF come to power and multiply our problems

    Long live the glorius FF party !!

    The might of the FF Machine? Jebus help us all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭Avns1s


    DB10 wrote: »
    You will be hammered for your opinion OP, but it's sad that some people don't realise FG in power next year will do alot more harm to the country than FF will do next year.

    Of course it is FF fault we are where we are but if you look at the future for a second, FF look better fit to run the country than FG do. FF need to be held accountable and they will be, but now is not the time to do it.

    And of course there is alternatives out there such as the Labour Party and Sinn Fein, but as we see to often the parish pump politics is still very much around and due to family allegiance and history the same people will only ever vote for FF or FG.

    Well, Noonan wiped the floor with Lenihans bare ass after the Budget speech and even moreso last night on Primetime. I think it would be fair to say that Lenihan didn't really know which way to turn, which to be honest, is probably a fair description of FF right now!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭hinault


    Couldn't vote for FF.

    FF = party before country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 234 ✭✭scr123


    Evidence that your position and opinion re FF is so retarded that you yourself can't even tell a fellow supporter from a wind up artist. Have a look at the last Frontline and see how many inbreeders you can spot in the audience. I counted quite a lot, says it all about FF

    After reading that post I am trying to imagine you with a personality. I was at Frontline Monday night and I can assure you there was not one person, no matter what their political views, who would describe people as retards or accuse them of inbreeding. I suggest you go back to your schoolbooks and make better use of them


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭DB10


    Avns1s wrote: »
    Well, Noonan wiped the floor with Lenihans bare ass after the Budget speech and even moreso last night on Primetime. I think it would be fair to say that Lenihan didn't really know which way to turn, which to be honest, is probably a fair description of FF right now!

    You and the other poster don't seem to realise, that yesterday is dream day for the likes of Noonan, where he can spout all the rubbish he wants and he will still be Mr Right because he isn't making the hard decisions.

    If Noonan brought in that budget yesterday, Lenihan would have been taking him to task and Noonan would be exposed for the bumbling mess of a man he really is.

    As it is it will be next year until the we see that sight as it seems the parish pump politics will win out and FG will be handed power by a country with people not intelligent enough to vote appropriately as has been seen time and again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    I believe that the original poster is trolling for a reaction......

    In any case , I am wondering if the original poster will vote for the perjuror, or the drunk driver, or maybe the corrupt ex bank official, or the forger, or maybe the brown envelope taker with the sterling lodgements....... maybe he will vote for one of the traitors whose dubious relationships with developers and fiscal policies bankrupted our country while taoiseach or finance minister. Maybe he will vote for the lad who misrepresented his residence to get higher expenses. Maybe he will vote for the td that calls Turks kebabs. maybe he will vote for a common liar and thief or the tax evader

    There are 10 -15 .% of Irish people who still support FF . It makes me sad for our future


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭Laminations


    scr123 wrote: »
    After reading that post I am trying to imagine you with a personality. I was at Frontline Monday night and I can assure you there was not one person, no matter what their political views, who would describe people as retards or accuse them of inbreeding. I suggest you go back to your schoolbooks and make better use of them

    I described views and opinions as retarded i.e. Backward. And inbreeding relates to political trends, voting based on family tradition. You were at Frontline? Adds to my perception of the audience that night...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    They will be thrown out the door next year, hopefully Q1. It baffles me as to why you support them (literally) to the end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    scr123 wrote: »
    Am a great believer in free speech and the value of message boards but after reading this post am wondering if a health warning on potential emotional damage should be somehow highlighted

    There is emotional damage.

    I don't know will I have a job next Monday
    I have taken huge real paycuts to pay for Anglo
    The entire civic infrastructure of the state is being dismantled to pay for Anglo, so I'd better not get sick or lose that job

    Don't patronise my anger.

    And don't lecture me on free speech till you have had those by elections.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,350 ✭✭✭Het-Field


    scr123 wrote: »
    Am a great believer in free speech and the value of message boards but after reading this post am wondering if a health warning on potential emotional damage should be somehow highlighted

    You cant be much of a believer in competitive discourse. You never respond to any poster who posts anything which is tangable, and discredits FF.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,188 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    DB10 wrote: »
    You will be hammered for your opinion OP, but it's sad that some people don't realise FG in power next year will do alot more harm to the country than FF will do next year.

    Of course it is FF fault we are where we are but if you look at the future for a second, FF look better fit to run the country than FG do. FF need to be held accountable and they will be, but now is not the time to do it.

    And of course there is alternatives out there such as the Labour Party and Sinn Fein, but as we see to often the parish pump politics is still very much around and due to family allegiance and history the same people will only ever vote for FF or FG.

    Yes we all know.
    FG will fire a load of guards, close hospital A&Es, fire half the firemen, fire half the prison officers and we will end up dying from second degree burns on the sides of the road which are going to be patrolled by modern day Mad Maxs trying to keep all the ex prison inmates from raping and pillaging the country. :rolleyes:

    Oh wait haven't ff done that already ? :eek:

    As for reply to the OP.

    I find it hard to reply to a post that firstly shows utter contempt for the vast majority of people in this country (myself and probably most other posters here) and secondly IMHO borders on delusion ?

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    I agree with the second paragraph, but please don't abstain; that will allow those with a vested interest in keeping FF in situ gain an advantage.

    The "best on offer" mightn't be great, but at least help ensure that we get the best of the bad lot.

    vote for fools is better than abstaining, why should you ask someone to vote for someone they dont want, thats ridiculous...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    very small minded post by a very bitter man

    Of course I am bitter.

    The entire economy was inflated by FF to benefit a small number of people, meaning people had to borrow well over the odds to buy a home and turned us into the most expensive country to live in

    That policy flopped, now we have a situation where FF are hammering the ordinary folk to ensure the same small number of people do not have to face the consequences of their actions.

    There is a direct transfer of money from schools, hospitals and the likes to bondholders in a failed private bank and the property industry in general because they took risks. Minumum wage and the dole cut - a direct subsidy from Irelands poorest to Irelands richest.

    Then they play party politics with the electoral system and refuse to have by elections they think they won't win to cling into power?

    And people have the rank brass neck to defend these cronyist chancers and advocate giving them another 5 years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭meriwether


    DB10 wrote: »
    You will be hammered for your opinion OP, but it's sad that some people don't realise FG in power next year will do alot more harm to the country than FF will do next year.

    Of course it is FF fault we are where we are but if you look at the future for a second, FF look better fit to run the country than FG do. FF need to be held accountable and they will be, but now is not the time to do it.

    And of course there is alternatives out there such as the Labour Party and Sinn Fein, but as we see to often the parish pump politics is still very much around and due to family allegiance and history the same people will only ever vote for FF or FG.

    Aah, its all becoming clear now.

    Vote FF, eh?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭NOGMaxpower


    yes the force is strong with this one, yes i can feel your anger let it out come join the dark side it runs through your veins.

    Clearly the OP is taking the mick and trying to get a rise out of you all.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭DB10


    meriwether wrote: »
    Aah, its all becoming clear now.

    Vote FF, eh?

    Typical ignorance of some people, there are more than two parties out there. Both are a crowd of cowboys as far as I'm concerned, and only receive votes due to parish pump politics and family allegiance.

    I thought this country had moved on from the last century, but no the old boys want the immigrants out and back to good auld days with FF and FG holding the cards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    vote for fools is better than abstaining, why should you ask someone to vote for someone they dont want, thats ridiculous...

    Because by not voting for "someone they don't want" they'll probably get someone they want even less!

    Mind you, I can't believe I'm even replying to you based on your insensitive and patronising reply earlier on to someone who has lost their job.....I guess it's the "I'm alright Jack" mentality that all FF'ers have because their party has looked after them.


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