www.fight.ie IRISH MMA RANKINGS DEC 2010

John Ferguson

Its time to get the knives sharpened again folks!!!!!

The Official Fight.ie Irish MMA Rankings will be out this evening!!!

No doubt we will hear your views in due course.


Can I also take this opportunity to wish you all a Very Merry Xmas and prosperous New Year!!!! Thanks for your support this year and we look forward to seeing you at an event soon

John Ferguson

THE RANKINGS ARE NOW LIVE!!!!!!!!

SuperWoody101

http://www.fight.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=70&Itemid=212

Martin Walker

How did you come to these rankings?

John Ferguson

Martin Walker wrote: »

How did you come to these rankings?

We started by putting all the names in a big hat.........

As always we got the view of a couple of referees and coaches, then we put them together, got more comments, views and relevant arguments then published!

As always we expect some differing opinions, but let's face it that's what they are, an opinion

Jayo_M

This is just my opinion, not trying to stir the pot or anything - but seeing as there isn't an official MMA body in Ireland, I don't think these rankings should be declared as the Official rankings? Unless they're the official rankings of a particular promotion?

Just my 2¢, I've only been to one Irish MMA event so I'm in no position to give my opinion on the actual rankings

John Ferguson

Jayo_M wrote: »

This is just my opinion, not trying to stir the pot or anything - but seeing as there isn't an official MMA body in Ireland, I don't think these rankings should be declared as the Official rankings? Unless they're the official rankings of a particular promotion?

Just my 2¢, I've only been to one Irish MMA event so I'm in no position to give my opinion on the actual rankings

They are declared as the Official www.fight.ie rankings, nothing more nothing less!

Jayo_M

Oh right, I get ya. Sorry about the confusion on my part!

Martin Walker

fightie wrote: »

We started by putting all the names in a big hat.........

oh so thats why some of them are quite random.....:rolleyes:

EnjoyChoke

Rankings look sound enough, one question though.
How is Lee McKibben ranked below Chris Fields as a middleweight but above him in the pound for pound rankings?

Clive

Because Chris is fat?

John Ferguson

Martin Walker wrote: »

oh so thats why some of them are quite random.....:rolleyes:

Which ones in particular Marty?

Martin Walker

fightie wrote: »

Which ones in particular Marty?

Sorry dude cant be arsed to get into it. Far too many things come into play when you talk about Irish MMA rankings such as these.

da-bres

IMO

No disrespect to Norman Parkes but greg laughran should be ahead of him at light weight, and Roddy should be ahead of him on the P4P. Roddy is one of Irelands best fighters.

Why is greg laughran 6th on p4p?? He should be 1st or 2nd.

Im suprised Tom Egan is not in the welter weight rankings, he recently demolished his opponent in a show in the states and has definetly achieved more than some of the welter weights on those rankings.

No disrespect to any fighters just think these rankings stink a little, fair play for putting them up though!

scuff

da-bres wrote: »

IMO

No disrespect to Norman Parkes but greg laughran should be ahead of him at light weight, and Roddy should be ahead of him on the P4P. Roddy is one of Irelands best fighters.

Why is greg laughran 6th on p4p?? He should be 1st or 2nd.

Im suprised Tom Egan is not in the welter weight rankings, he recently demolished his opponent in a show in the states and has definetly achieved more than some of the welter weights on those rankings.

No disrespect to any fighters just think these rankings stink a little, fair play for putting them up though!

As much as Greg is a grew fighter he isn't winning fights as regular as Norman, who fully justifies his position at no 1 lw, I think when Greg starts winning again he will jump straight to no1

Barry.Oglesby

Will Heffernan is at no.3 in Ireland at LHW, but he was recently beaten by Jack Frost who is nowhere near the rankings.

da-bres

scuff wrote: »

As much as Greg is a grew fighter he isn't winning fights as regular as Norman, who fully justifies his position at no 1 lw, I think when Greg starts winning again he will jump straight to no1

I dont agree whatsoever.

Greg has fought guys like Eddie Alvarez, Andre Winner and Jonathan Brookins. Although Norman may be kicking ass and collecting scalps, he hasnt had any big fights against internationally ranked opponents.

cowzerp

Norman is great and an up and comer but Greg is the cream of Irish fighters and is No, 1 as far as im concerned both Lb 4 Lb and in his weight..

People dont take the rankings too serious as it just gives people a better idea where things are than if there where none.. there not definite 10% and i dont think there meant to be either..

John Ferguson

cowzerp wrote: »

Greg is the cream of Irish fighters and is No, 1 as far as im concerned both Lb 4 Lb and in his weight..

While I agree Greg is a top drawer fighter, the basic fact still remains - He has lost 4 out of his last 5 fights!!

Barry.Oglesby

fightie wrote: »

While I agree Greg is a top drawer fighter, the basic fact still remains - He has lost 4 out of his last 5 fights!!

To top drawer international opposition. Is there no weighting for opponents?

gatecrasher69er

il be remembered as the best fighter in ireland......

Will Heffernan

fightie wrote: »

He has lost 4 out of his last 5 fights!!

That's something for me to aim for...I reckon I can do that.

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

To top drawer international opposition.

Are you talking about me?

Raze_them_all

Lol wow I'd like to say a massive congrats to B(en) Davis who is both chaos' featherweight and middleweight champion!! (how did nobody cop that)

Got to say I'm a little surprised to see John Redmond so high up, I know I've not been around the seen in a while, has john been tearing **** up??

Performance Martial Arts

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Lol wow I'd like to say a massive congrats to B(en) Davis who is both chaos' featherweight and middleweight champion!! (how did nobody cop that)

Got to say I'm a little surprised to see John Redmond so high up, I know I've not been around the seen in a while, has john been tearing **** up??

3 in a row now for John Redmond!!!

SBG Ireland

so out of 7 divisions SBG
2 no.1 spots
3 no.2 spots
2 no.4 spots
seems about right

John Ferguson

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Lol wow I'd like to say a massive congrats to B(en) Davis who is both chaos' featherweight and middleweight champion!! (how did nobody cop that) ?

Fixed

Mrs Lynch

SBG Ireland wrote: »

so out of 7 divisions SBG
2 no.1 spots
3 no.2 spots
2 no.4 spots
seems about right

FIX

Urs
x

eoghan.geraghty

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

Will Heffernan is at no.3 in Ireland at LHW, but he was recently beaten by Jack Frost who is nowhere near the rankings.

Twice!

Philpott1mm4

All I can do is laugh, not every club was included in voting, and therefore how can this be resulted as best, you have wrote that chris stringer and daniel abrol will be included when they fight.

When was last time ritchie moore fought ( no disrespect just asking )

Rodney Moore
Colin Robinson
Davy Patterson
Mark O'Toole

all the old guys should be in there, just because they havn't fought in a wile doesn't mean there not going to,

I know what i think of these.

Fozzy

Philpott1mm4 wrote: »

Rodney Moore
Colin Robinson
Davy Patterson
Mark O'Toole

all the old guys should be in there, just because they havn't fought in a wile doesn't mean there not going to,

Some of those haven't fought in over two years. And Robinson lost his last four fights. It would be like putting Ken Shamrock and Royce Gracie in your top ten

scuff

Fozzy wrote: »

Some of those haven't fought in over two years. And Robinson lost his last four fights. It would be like putting Ken Shamrock and Royce Gracie in your top ten

You mean Kens not in your top ten!!!!!!

Will Heffernan

Philpott1mm4 wrote: »

All I can do is laugh, not every club was included in voting, and therefore how can this be resulted as best, you have wrote that chris stringer and daniel abrol will be included when they fight.

When was last time ritchie moore fought ( no disrespect just asking )

Rodney Moore
Colin Robinson
Davy Patterson
Mark O'Toole

all the old guys should be in there, just because they havn't fought in a wile doesn't mean there not going to,

I know what i think of these.

Those guys are all way too old to be fighting anyway. There's not enough room in the warm up areas at most shows for all the zimmer frames and you can't have two cornermen and your nurse cageside.

Raze_them_all

Will Heffernan wrote: »

Those guys are all way too old to be fighting anyway. There's not enough room in the warm up areas at most shows for all the zimmer frames and you can't have two cornermen and your nurse cageside.

Don't let emmet Mcnally hear that!

pablohoney87

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Got to say I'm a little surprised to see John Redmond so high up, I know I've not been around the seen in a while, has john been tearing **** up??

Yeah john has been on a rampage lately and is a completely different fighter from when you guys last fought Ray. If you look at both his fights against Tim Mcrory it shows the difference between the fighter he was and the fighter he is now. He's next in line for the cage contender middleweight shot and i rekon itll be a crackin fight between himself and chris.

Mrs Lynch

pablohoney87 wrote: »

Yeah john has been on a rampage lately and is a completely different fighter from when you guys last fought Ray. If you look at both his fights against Tim Mcrory it shows the difference between the fighter he was and the fighter he is now. He's next in line for the cage contender middleweight shot and i rekon itll be a crackin fight between himself and chris.

I totally agree that John should definately be in a top 10;) Massive improvement in him and I would say fight with Chris is gonna be brill! John needs to keep focused he has such potential and I know he's gonna probably be one to watch in 2011;)

Urs
x

Mrs Lynch

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Don't let emmet Mcnally hear that!

Emmets a very young 42yr old;) Unfortunate was out with injuries but Id say he is still potential to stop most of the guys on scene!!!

I also agree with you Alan especially with Rodney! I'd lov to see him back too :D

Urs
x

p.s. as you can see from the above post my charity for today is "Help the Aged MMA Fighters" lol (Sori guys hadda get it in lol);)

Raze_them_all

pablohoney87 wrote: »

Yeah john has been on a rampage lately and is a completely different fighter from when you guys last fought Ray. If you look at both his fights against Tim Mcrory it shows the difference between the fighter he was and the fighter he is now. He's next in line for the cage contender middleweight shot and i rekon itll be a crackin fight between himself and chris.

Are these fights on youtube?? Will go have a look if so

MushyMick

Have to say fair play to you fightie you've really stirred up something and got them talking which is the only point of havin a rankings for a tiny sport like MMA anyway. Sure look there's hardly any fighters! I'm a newcomer by most standards only involved in MMA a year or so but I've seen enough in that time to know that this game in ireland is all talk and very little trousers.

I can't believe all the lads sitting back the coaches I mean. I'm sure some of them are looking at the rankings and wondering how people like the promoters are making any $$$$ at all since there's only 3 lhws in ireland and 4 flyweights. That's not a sport worthy of having rankings lads. I know you'll disagree because I'm sure you love it but you know that's the truth.

I went to cage contender in the NBA and first of all I couldn't believe the proce but 2 lads I knew were fighting so I said why not. It was a good show let me say that first off, so well done on that. But then I realised I'd paid 40 to watch lads who are amateurs. That my friend, is a rip off in any mans language. I know that people don't pay it to get entertained they pay it cos their mates are fighting. That to me is just ripping people off. You're over a barrell cos you have to see your mate go so you'll go whether the ticket is 10 or 100.

I heard people talk about fightie and cage contender in the gym one day and they were calling you a crafty bloke and I'd have to agree with them now that I've seen this and the one about an awards ceremony. That's just crazy itd be like having a hall of fame for bowling except more people in ireland play bowling so maybe there's a reason to have that.

I've been to a few shows now and I've enjoyed them for what they are. A bit of craioc and some fights. I've boxed and been to boxing shows and never paid more than 15 to see one so I can't believe the price to watch lads training less time than me in some cases. One guy after the tallaght show told me hed been training 8 months and I thought to myself -m some fool handing over my hard earned money for that. Fair play to him not his fault but I thought about the advertising stabdards crowd and if they would have anything to say about advertising a show the way it was.

I want to fight first time next year and I've asked my coach and he mentioned your show was on in march, near where I'm from but I told him no get me another one. I'd want my ma, da, brothers and friends to come watch me and I wouldn't ask them to pay 40 in the middle of a recession to watch me and a bunch of other amateurs fighting.

I know I'll be slated and even my coach will know who I am and slate me at training tonight for spealing out but I thought someone had to say something about how MMA is up its own hole. Respect to the fighters and coaches I mean no badness to them.

Mick

Kieran81

mick you sir are talkin out your arse. since when is a show with the likes of paul mcveigh , tom maguire , myles price , norman parke , paul cowzer , liam shannon, cathal pendred amateur. anybody who was going to a cage contendr show knows well the first half of the show is semi profesional fights, (enquire how many hours a week these guys were putting into their fights and you'll be surprised , its an insult calling them amateur) and then the 2nd half of the card is the professionals. these lads got the chance to fight in front of 3500 people , in a superb venue on a show that went out on international tv and you complain about it being an amateur show. i know plenty who attended to support there mate/ local fighter/ training partner and they were all impressed with the value for money. dont get me wrong either i'm not here to lick cage contenders/fight.ie ass, i think the hall of fame awards r pretty cheesy for a sport in its early stages , but dont go saying the fighters are amateurish

pablohoney87

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Are these fights on youtube?? Will go have a look if so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujeCNgNGPfg

Their 1st fight.
The 2nd one was at clan wars 4 which is free now on
http://p4tv.com/

pablohoney87

MushyMick wrote: »

3 lhws in ireland

Mick

Rimantas Pukas
Look out for him.;)

John Ferguson

MushyMick wrote: »

Have to say fair play to you fightie you've really stirred up something and got them talking which is the only point of havin a rankings for a tiny sport like MMA anyway. Sure look there's hardly any fighters! I'm a newcomer by most standards only involved in MMA a year or so but I've seen enough in that time to know that this game in ireland is all talk and very little trousers.

I can't believe all the lads sitting back the coaches I mean. I'm sure some of them are looking at the rankings and wondering how people like the promoters are making any $$$$ at all since there's only 3 lhws in ireland and 4 flyweights. That's not a sport worthy of having rankings lads. I know you'll disagree because I'm sure you love it but you know that's the truth.

I went to cage contender in the NBA and first of all I couldn't believe the proce but 2 lads I knew were fighting so I said why not. It was a good show let me say that first off, so well done on that. But then I realised I'd paid 40 to watch lads who are amateurs. That my friend, is a rip off in any mans language. I know that people don't pay it to get entertained they pay it cos their mates are fighting. That to me is just ripping people off. You're over a barrell cos you have to see your mate go so you'll go whether the ticket is 10 or 100.

I heard people talk about fightie and cage contender in the gym one day and they were calling you a crafty bloke and I'd have to agree with them now that I've seen this and the one about an awards ceremony. That's just crazy itd be like having a hall of fame for bowling except more people in ireland play bowling so maybe there's a reason to have that.

I've been to a few shows now and I've enjoyed them for what they are. A bit of craioc and some fights. I've boxed and been to boxing shows and never paid more than 15 to see one so I can't believe the price to watch lads training less time than me in some cases. One guy after the tallaght show told me hed been training 8 months and I thought to myself -m some fool handing over my hard earned money for that. Fair play to him not his fault but I thought about the advertising stabdards crowd and if they would have anything to say about advertising a show the way it was.

I want to fight first time next year and I've asked my coach and he mentioned your show was on in march, near where I'm from but I told him no get me another one. I'd want my ma, da, brothers and friends to come watch me and I wouldn't ask them to pay 40 in the middle of a recession to watch me and a bunch of other amateurs fighting.

I know I'll be slated and even my coach will know who I am and slate me at training tonight for spealing out but I thought someone had to say something about how MMA is up its own hole. Respect to the fighters and coaches I mean no badness to them.

Mick

Now that's alot of points for me to answer Tell you what I'll do, if you identify yourself I will answer them all. I don't fancy having a public debate with a faceless keyboard warrior!!

Oh and where did you get your ticket for Cage Contender? I'm just curious because they started at €30 (which is only a few quid above the price the smaller club shows charge)

kid chaos

Kieran81 wrote: »

mick you sir are talkin out your arse. since when is a show with the likes of paul mcveigh , tom maguire , myles price , norman parke , paul cowzer , liam shannon, cathal pendred amateur. anybody who was going to a cage contendr show knows well the first half of the show is semi profesional fights, (enquire how many hours a week these guys were putting into their fights and you'll be surprised , its an insult calling them amateur) and then the 2nd half of the card is the professionals. these lads got the chance to fight in front of 3500 people , in a superb venue on a show that went out on international tv and you complain about it being an amateur show. i know plenty who attended to support there mate/ local fighter/ training partner and they were all impressed with the value for money. dont get me wrong either i'm not here to lick cage contenders/fight.ie ass, i think the hall of fame awards r pretty cheesy for a sport in its early stages , but dont go saying the fighters are amateurish

Couldnt have said it any better!

MushyMick

Kieran81 wrote: »

mick you sir are talkin out your arse. since when is a show with the likes of paul mcveigh , tom maguire , myles price , norman parke , paul cowzer , liam shannon, cathal pendred amateur. anybody who was going to a cage contendr show knows well the first half of the show is semi profesional fights, (enquire how many hours a week these guys were putting into their fights and you'll be surprised , its an insult calling them amateur) and then the 2nd half of the card is the professionals. these lads got the chance to fight in front of 3500 people , in a superb venue on a show that went out on international tv and you complain about it being an amateur show. i know plenty who attended to support there mate/ local fighter/ training partner and they were all impressed with the value for money. dont get me wrong either i'm not here to lick cage contenders/fight.ie ass, i think the hall of fame awards r pretty cheesy for a sport in its early stages , but dont go saying the fighters are amateurish

Howya Kieran to say I'm talking out of my arse is a bit harsh I'm giving my opinion is all. Same as everyone on the forum here. I love the fights and I respect the fighters and I'm an amateur fighter myself. I don't make a living out of it, I haven't seen much action so I'm an amateur, just like the majority of the Cage Contender cards. I've been around fight sports since I was 11 so I know the lie of the land. I know the time and dedication and I respect the training that goes into fighting. Especially when you've a job or kids to look after. I personally didn't know the first fights would be amatuer and I had a cageside seat fightie which was what I was offered by my mate I'm sorry I didn't get one of those 30 tickets which still would have been overpaying.

I know there's loads reading this saying they had a great time at contender so it was worth it but maybe they're just used to mad prices. 25 is too much for these shows too you know. Who needs dancing girls and smoke machines, its just window dressing. We're all there for the fights why not drop the expensive crap and make it cheaper for the punter we're all struggling.

I'm not down on Irish MMA I actually love it I've been to about a dozen shows now and I really enjoy it every time. I just think get real when I hear of awards nights and rankings. Like kieran says its cheesy. Why not drop the awards night and all that and put the savings into ticket prices?

Also why should I come on here and let you know who I am when I'm planning a fight career of my own? Yes I'm new to the game but I want a fight or 20 and I want to compete. I know you have clout with the other promoters and in England too so I'm not going to dirty my bib here I just want to speak out.

Pablo you're talking about a lad who hasn't fought yet. I hope he does well as I hope I do and all the up and comers do. But that doesn't change the fact that he's a bloke in a division of 3 or 4 and what would be the point in being ranked in that?

I know others agree with me here but won't say because thhis forum post is about cheerleading for. Fightie and all. I know I'll be called a keyboard warrior and a troll or whatever and I've already got an earful for posting earlier but I'll keep that between me and the man. I've come to love this sport but let's all take a big deep breath and be realistic and look at it for what it is cos we're on the inside not the outside looking in. Its a tiny sport in ireland like cricket or green bowling or airsoft. Making it out to be something big with awards and rankings is just making a mockery of it and makes it look ridiculous to others and even to people who know it well like I do and my clubmates dom
Peace,
Mick

Martin Walker

MushyMick wrote: »

Howya Kieran to say I'm talking out of my arse is a bit harsh I'm giving my opinion is all. Same as everyone on the forum here. I love the fights and I respect the fighters and I'm an amateur fighter myself. I don't make a living out of it, I haven't seen much action so I'm an amateur, just like the majority of the Cage Contender cards. I've been around fight sports since I was 11 so I know the lie of the land. I know the time and dedication and I respect the training that goes into fighting. Especially when you've a job or kids to look after. I personally didn't know the first fights would be amatuer and I had a cageside seat fightie which was what I was offered by my mate I'm sorry I didn't get one of those 30 tickets which still would have been overpaying.

I know there's loads reading this saying they had a great time at contender so it was worth it but maybe they're just used to mad prices. 25 is too much for these shows too you know. Who needs dancing girls and smoke machines, its just window dressing. We're all there for the fights why not drop the expensive crap and make it cheaper for the punter we're all struggling.

I'm not down on Irish MMA I actually love it I've been to about a dozen shows now and I really enjoy it every time. I just think get real when I hear of awards nights and rankings. Like kieran says its cheesy. Why not drop the awards night and all that and put the savings into ticket prices?

Also why should I come on here and let you know who I am when I'm planning a fight career of my own? Yes I'm new to the game but I want a fight or 20 and I want to compete. I know you have clout with the other promoters and in England too so I'm not going to dirty my bib here I just want to speak out.

Pablo you're talking about a lad who hasn't fought yet. I hope he does well as I hope I do and all the up and comers do. But that doesn't change the fact that he's a bloke in a division of 3 or 4 and what would be the point in being ranked in that?

I know others agree with me here but won't say because thhis forum post is about cheerleading for. Fightie and all. I know I'll be called a keyboard warrior and a troll or whatever and I've already got an earful for posting earlier but I'll keep that between me and the man. I've come to love this sport but let's all take a big deep breath and be realistic and look at it for what it is cos we're on the inside not the outside looking in. Its a tiny sport in ireland like cricket or green bowling or airsoft. Making it out to be something big with awards and rankings is just making a mockery of it and makes it look ridiculous to others and even to people who know it well like I do and my clubmates dom
Peace,
Mick

Cage Contender is not overpriced you are basically just wrong.
MMA in Ireland is bigger than you give it credit for. It means a hell of alot to some people and posting these sort of things is just gonna cause trouble. Now if you love the sport like you say you do, you should try to help it develop not just stand and take shots at people that are putting alot of time and effort into making MMA what it is today.

John Ferguson

MushyMick wrote: »

Howya Kieran to say I'm talking out of my arse is a bit harsh I'm giving my opinion is all. Same as everyone on the forum here. I love the fights and I respect the fighters and I'm an amateur fighter myself. I don't make a living out of it, I haven't seen much action so I'm an amateur, just like the majority of the Cage Contender cards. I've been around fight sports since I was 11 so I know the lie of the land. I know the time and dedication and I respect the training that goes into fighting. Especially when you've a job or kids to look after. I personally didn't know the first fights would be amatuer and I had a cageside seat fightie which was what I was offered by my mate I'm sorry I didn't get one of those 30 tickets which still would have been overpaying.

I know there's loads reading this saying they had a great time at contender so it was worth it but maybe they're just used to mad prices. 25 is too much for these shows too you know. Who needs dancing girls and smoke machines, its just window dressing. We're all there for the fights why not drop the expensive crap and make it cheaper for the punter we're all struggling.

I'm not down on Irish MMA I actually love it I've been to about a dozen shows now and I really enjoy it every time. I just think get real when I hear of awards nights and rankings. Like kieran says its cheesy. Why not drop the awards night and all that and put the savings into ticket prices?

Also why should I come on here and let you know who I am when I'm planning a fight career of my own? Yes I'm new to the game but I want a fight or 20 and I want to compete. I know you have clout with the other promoters and in England too so I'm not going to dirty my bib here I just want to speak out.

Pablo you're talking about a lad who hasn't fought yet. I hope he does well as I hope I do and all the up and comers do. But that doesn't change the fact that he's a bloke in a division of 3 or 4 and what would be the point in being ranked in that?

I know others agree with me here but won't say because thhis forum post is about cheerleading for. Fightie and all. I know I'll be called a keyboard warrior and a troll or whatever and I've already got an earful for posting earlier but I'll keep that between me and the man. I've come to love this sport but let's all take a big deep breath and be realistic and look at it for what it is cos we're on the inside not the outside looking in. Its a tiny sport in ireland like cricket or green bowling or airsoft. Making it out to be something big with awards and rankings is just making a mockery of it and makes it look ridiculous to others and even to people who know it well like I do and my clubmates dom
Peace,
Mick

I take it from this rather harsh post you will not be voting for us on MMA HIT PIT? where we have been shortlisted for UK Promotion of the year? If you want to give us your support here is the LINK

Barry.Oglesby

NOT that I'm one for defending faceless keyboard warriors BUT..

Martin Walker wrote: »

Cage Contender is not overpriced you are basically just wrong.
MMA in Ireland is bigger than you give it credit for. It means a hell of alot to some people and posting these sort of things is just gonna cause trouble. Now if you love the sport like you say you do, you should try to help it develop not just stand and take shots at people that are putting alot of time and effort into making MMA what it is today.

Why does he have to do any of that? He says himself he trains and has been to "a dozen shows" so he's a) training so paying someone membership and contributing to grassroots and b) paying into shows. Not everyone can be a promoter or a fighter or coach. If he thinks the show is overpriced, then he thinks it's overpriced, he still paid it, but he's entitled to say his bit. Probably more entitled since he paid it to be honest.

And respectfully, most of the people that put time and effort into Irish MMA are being financially rewarded for that. I wouldn't ask anyone to respect me just because I put on a show last weekend. I put on a show, I charged and therefore I'm at the mercy of the customer to review it for better or worse. This is a public forum after all. Putting in effort doesn't automatically confer you with praise or support.

I would actually agree with much of what MushyMick has to say re: shallow divisions. It's a shame and it's something that needs to be addressed at the lower levels of the sport.

I think the Tallaght show was competitively priced when compared to shows if various types around Ireland, but I doubt many of the paying punters will have the same type of money when march comes around. It doesn't effect me as I'm a freebie but I know a few more of my guys are out of work these days and 30 a ticket might be too much of an ask (I'll be reducing my ticket prices next show after the budget, though I probably should increase them!:mad:). I've no frame of reference re: the sterling price.

I've just looked at your posting history Mick and our paths have crossed many times. You walked into my gym a good while back and looked shocked to see me and I you. I'm delighted you're still training and if you bring the same enthusiasm and energy you brought to our training together you'll be winning MMA fights very soon. Stay well mate. Keep an eye on that dog for me

Barry.Oglesby

Edit: where did MushyMick's reply go?

Edit edit: I'll take it you wanted that quote deleted!

MushyMick

I deleted it just too personal Bar and I've a jar or two on me after watching Chelsea lose!. Now you know who I am anyway so everyone probably will in a few minutes ye mouth ye!

Saw your show at the weekend with the lads from the club. Pricey too mate but good just like cage contender was good! No one denying that.

Peace,
Mick

TheProdigy

Disappointed from the response from fightie tbf, I thought you would have addressed his points rather than giving childish remarks like "keyboard warrior" and a seemingly sarcastic post about voting for the promotion in an awards competition. Would I be correct in suggesting that you don't take criticism well or feel that the poster's views don't warrant a genuine reply?

Would be interesting to see why you value tickets at those prices and what percentage is taken as profit, surely that would stagnate some of the views that the tickets are overpriced?

Barry.Oglesby

MushyMick wrote: »

I deleted it just too personal Bar and I've a jar or two on me after watching Chelsea lose!. Now you know who I am anyway so everyone probably will in a few minutes ye mouth ye!

Saw your show at the weekend with the lads from the club. Pricey too mate but good just like cage contender was good! No one denying that.

Peace,
Mick

well I'll leave this quote in no matter what. I was thinking you might want to leave the other bit of info out .

You should have come over and said hello. I would have taken your pricing comments on board with my usual dignity and grace...:p

Okay so take it that Cage Contender has much more on it's plate than me:
1) cage rental
2) lighting
3) venue
4) fighters
5) security
6) runners
7) etc. etc. etc.

Take all those costs, put them in a bigger venue, add in TV and a LOT of other elements and you have a massive bill. I'm not saying no money is made, I'm just saying these are elements you have to consider when you consider the cost of a ticket. You know your way around boxing and I'm surprised to see you saying you only paid €15 cos you and I both know you've paid more and amateur undercards are common in boxing.

Still, as I've said you're entitled to your opinion as is everyone who pays at the door.

Tell himself I said hello

Barry