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Long Haul from Cork?

  • 04-12-2010 6:34pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭


    I remember a few years ago around 2005 there was an airline going to launch a Cork to New York service but I don't think it ever materialised. Has Cork in its history ever had a long haul service or is the runway too short? I read on Wikipedia that the occasional widebody plane calls there for the odd Munster Rugby charter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Dacian


    As far as I know the runway length is restrictive for operating purposes.
    I have heard that the A330 can get in and out but has difficulty taxiing due to narrow taxiways/turning points.

    Seems hard to picture an airline going to Cork when Shannon is relatively close and well suited to the logistics of long haul ops. Maybe a US carrier may try to do B757 ops from there in the future?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭Foggy43


    KLM have managed to get a Boeing MD-11 in and out of Cork. Would loved to have seen it.

    http://avherald.com/h?article=41c75773&opt=0

    I would say there was no need for a fuel dump and didn't require much of an uplift as Amsterdam only being an hour away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭Lifelike


    couldn't a boeing 737 fly from cork to new york?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Lifelike wrote: »
    couldn't a boeing 737 fly from cork to new york?

    Its operationally possible but not very probable that any airline would do so.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭cocoshovel


    I have an Airlinerworld or flyingIreland (not sure which one) magazine with an article about a 747-400 that landed in Cork a few years back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭IrishB.ie


    Not sure if this is the one, but, he has an interesting link to a slideshow of various widebodies that have visited Cork.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sean_cronin/5187178985/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭A320


    I remember the qantas 747 on a promotion tour a few years ago.

    Runway length is no problem for some aircraft 757,767 unrestricted,i also remember a few years back a EI 330 going to LAX from dublin taking off from Runway 16 which is similar to corks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    The wikipedia entry is a small bit misinformed but anyway. As said above you'd have no problem at all flying to the east coast from Cork. Ryan International were going to operate the Cork flight with a 757 a few years back but the "cost of fuel" made it fall through. The new CBP and Customs at shannon and Dublin may possibly make flying to Cork unattractive, I'm not sure..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,296 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    A little off topic,I remember when Knock has the transatlantic flights with Fly Globespan.They operated to J.F.K and Boston useing a 757-200 and a 737-800.There flights to/from Knock nearly always operated with significant delays and alas didnt last.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭bobcar61


    Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the flyglobespan flights from Knock to New York and Boston not originate in Glasgow some flights had a fuel stop in Keflavik and St. Johns if the flight was scheduled with a 738-800 I'm probably wrong.

    And the flights also stopped from Knock because the company ceased trading.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,296 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Yep they orginated in Glasgow and Liverpool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Neworder79


    I think Flyglobespan operated LPL-NOC-JFK 3 weekly with a 757-200 and GLA-NOC-BOS 2 weekly with a 738 from May to October 2007.

    It started off well for the first 4 months with high pre bookings on the NOC leg, but that year the airline really over stretched, launching low-cost long-haul routes to Canada, US and numerous new routes with limited backup. The LPL base failed to attract numbers despite being the city of culture 2007 the first US route from LPL.

    They had a 752 engine struck by lightening approaching JFK from NOC, which took several days to fix and the bomb attack on GLA airport left their main base and aircraft locked down for several days. NOC ended their relationship with them at the end of the season. Globespan went bust in 2009.

    Despite that the airport stated 85% JFK & 75% BOS load-factor and numbers of around 45,000 on JFK over the 6 months it operated.

    It was certainly a creative arrangement. I wonder if ORK-NOC-JFK would work with a Cork based aircraft, taking advantage of NOCs longer runway for the transatlantic leg? Can't see many airlines looking these thinner long haul routes for a few years though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭CaptainSkidmark


    there was a lourdes charter 747 in cork before also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭A320


    Cork-Knock-USA in my opinion would be pointless,direct is the key and the runway length difference at knock would have no effect on operations to east coast US or anywhere really


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,189 ✭✭✭drdeadlift


    there was a lourdes charter 747 in cork before also.

    Air Atlanta 742 tf-abp iirc,was fun landing in cork.


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