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2TB External HD

  • 01-12-2010 11:15am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭


    Picked up a 2TB Seagate External Drive in Maplin, Limerick this morning for €99.99.

    Not a bad price for a retail store.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭EoghanConway


    Astonishingly good price for maplin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,604 ✭✭✭Kev_ps3


    Same offer in Harvey Norman


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭sgarvan


    2TB Iomega Prestige Desktop Hard Drives €99 from Peats

    http://www.peats.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?view_product=1&id=27358


  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    I'm going to get one of these over the next few days. Any particular reason why I should choose one over the other?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭MrSparkle


    sgarvan wrote: »
    2TB Iomega Prestige Desktop Hard Drives €99 from Peats

    http://www.peats.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?view_product=1&id=27358


    Thanks sgarvan, one Christmas present sorted anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 fermeen


    MarkR wrote: »
    I'm going to get one of these over the next few days. Any particular reason why I should choose one over the other?

    The Seagate (aaarvve norman) has a 2 year warranty and the iomega (peats) a 3 year warranty


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Are the Seagate ones not the ones that have a high failure rate? I'm asking because I don't know, so no-one bear this post in mind when deciding. :pac:
    Does anyone know if either has a power switch on them? My main bugbear with the HD I have is the lack of power switch.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    As a variant of the many hard drive threads this past week or so, Aldi have an external USB 3.0 powered hard drive on Sunday, Dec 5th for €80.
    Note....USB 3.0


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,604 ✭✭✭Kev_ps3


    slave1 wrote: »
    As a variant of the many hard drive threads this past week or so, Aldi have an external USB 3.0 powered hard drive on Sunday, Dec 5th for €80.
    Note....USB 3.0

    sweet I just got a new laptop with USB 3.0. Must pick one up:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Always have a backup. So consider having two drives of the same capacity rather than just one.


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  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    Kev_ps3 wrote: »
    sweet I just got a new laptop with USB 3.0. Must pick one up:)

    No usb3 devices in my house yet. :-) What laptop did you get?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,604 ✭✭✭Kev_ps3


    MarkR wrote: »
    No usb3 devices in my house yet. :-) What laptop did you get?

    Dell XPS 15
    http://ireland.dell.com/ie/en/home/Dell-Laptops/xps-15/pd.aspx?refid=xps-15&s=dhs&cs=iedhs1&~ck=mn
    799 one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭serarra


    slave1 wrote: »
    As a variant of the many hard drive threads this past week or so, Aldi have an external USB 3.0 powered hard drive on Sunday, Dec 5th for €80.
    Note....USB 3.0
    Yes but note as well that is only 1 Tb, not two as the other ones. And the hard drive itself will not be any faster, as the transfer rate of the hard drive itself never exceeds the maximum speed of usb2


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,604 ✭✭✭Kev_ps3


    serarra wrote: »
    Yes but note as well that is only 1 Tb, not two as the other ones. And the hard drive itself will not be any faster, as the transfer rate of the hard drive itself never exceeds the maximum speed of usb2

    Im confused.
    I just read a bit about usb 2.0 vs 3.0 and its says 3.0 is clearly faster:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,844 ✭✭✭Jimdagym


    Kev_ps3 wrote: »
    Im confused.
    I just read a bit about usb 2.0 vs 3.0 and its says 3.0 is clearly faster:confused:

    The USB is faster, but it's throttled by the transfer rate to the actual hard drive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭Ricky91t


    Jimdagym wrote: »
    The USB is faster, but it's throttled by the transfer rate to the actual hard drive.

    So although it's USB 3.0 it's actually no quicker than 2.0... That seems to be pretty sneaky!

    Would an SSD have 3.0 transfer speeds?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,844 ✭✭✭Jimdagym


    Ricky91t wrote: »
    So although it's USB 3.0 it's actually no quicker than 2.0... That seems to be pretty sneaky!

    Would an SSD have 3.0 transfer speeds?

    Indeed it is sneaky.
    USB 3.0 operates at 4.8 Gb/s where current SSD's use SATA 3 Gb/s. But as you seen in the posts before, it all depends on whats on the end of the cable.

    Caveat: I stand to be corrected on the fiigures. I'm no expert on this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,033 ✭✭✭thebullkf


    slave1 wrote: »
    As a variant of the many hard drive threads this past week or so, Aldi have an external USB 3.0 powered hard drive on Sunday, Dec 5th for €80.
    Note....USB 3.0

    i assume its backwards compatible with USB 2,1.1 ..?

    it doesn't mention it on the MEDION site:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,182 ✭✭✭alexlyons


    Sorry now, USB 2 is 480Mb/s, Thats Megabits not megabytes.

    Sata II is 3Gb/s which is 3000Mb/s

    USB 3 is 4.8Gb/s which is 4800Mb/s

    So yes, USB 3 will be limited by the hard drive being used, but it is still possible to achieve 3Gb/s. You will not be limited to USB 2 speeds unless you use a USB 2 device or port. Bear in mind real world speeds will be slower due to other parameters, but this is the case with all transfer methods, including USB 2.

    The are new SATA III drives out that can support a maximum of 6Gb/s and they would get full use out of USB 3, but in that case, USB 3 is not letting the drive go as fast as it could. You could need the SATA III drive connected to a motherboard that supports SATA III (6Gb/s) to get the fastest transfer rate possible with the devices.

    Bear in mind, that the abbreviates for transfer rates are case sensitive.

    Kb - Kilobit
    KB - Kilobyte
    Mb- Megabit
    MB - Megabyte
    Gb - Gigabit
    GB - Gigabyte

    That list is in the order slowest>fastest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,862 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    serarra wrote: »
    Yes but note as well that is only 1 Tb, not two as the other ones. And the hard drive itself will not be any faster, as the transfer rate of the hard drive itself never exceeds the maximum speed of usb2

    True, might only be 1TB but as far as i can see it is a usb powered HDD. Much handier to carry around with your laptop than one that has a seperate power supply. And 80 for a 1Tb ext HDD is a pretty decent price i think.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭ALiasEX


    A power adapter is mentioned here: http://aldi.medion.com/multimedia/en1/ie/?refPage=aldi

    Is it likely to be compatible with USB 2 hardware out of the box?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭fleet


    USB 3 will be quicker, but not much.

    USB2 has a real throughput of about 40MB/s (note the capital "B", allowing for overheads)

    Modern hard drives will easily sustain 70-90MB/s

    So it could be as much as double the speed if it's giant files you're transferring.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Kev_ps3 wrote: »
    Im confused.
    I just read a bit about usb 2.0 vs 3.0 and its says 3.0 is clearly faster:confused:

    You're limited to the speed of the hard drive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭serarra


    Kev_ps3 wrote: »
    Im confused.
    I just read a bit about usb 2.0 vs 3.0 and its says 3.0 is clearly faster:confused:
    The bus is faster.
    But not the device.
    It is like having a bicycle (it would be the hard drive)
    You ride it in a local road, at one speed.
    Then you go into the motorway (By the way, don't go into a motorway in a bicycle!! :-P). The bus (The road) allows you to go faster, but it does not matter, as the hard drive (the bike) cannot go faster than you were already riding it.

    Now, there are probably a couple more improvements as ncq and things like that in the usb3 hard drive, but don't expect a big difference. And we are talking almost the same price, for twice the capacity. I would always go for the bigger one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭Qwerty?


    MarkR wrote: »
    I'm going to get one of these over the next few days. Any particular reason why I should choose one over the other?

    Waiting on an answer to this too - which one would be more reliable? regardless of warranty (which is useless if a HD fails - you data is still gone)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Qwerty? wrote: »
    Waiting on an answer to this too - which one would be more reliable? regardless of warranty (which is useless if a HD fails - you data is still gone)

    If you have a proper backup, it wouldn't matter if a HD fails.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭Qwerty?


    BostonB wrote: »
    If you have a proper backup, it wouldn't matter if a HD fails.

    it would matter- as you've have to go and buy another drive, and back up the 2TB again to it.

    Which is why I'm wondering which one is more reliable


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    You get a replacement drive from the warranty and let your backup, sync continue as normal. Its not like you have to watch it copying stuff across, it would do it in a few hours in the background. Its a non event with a backup.

    But if as you say a drive fails and you lose your data. You've no backup. You want to sort that out.

    http://www.storagereview.com/php/survey/survey_mfr.php


  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    Qwerty? wrote: »
    it would matter- as you've have to go and buy another drive, and back up the 2TB again to it.

    Which is why I'm wondering which one is more reliable

    I'm going to go for the iomega one. Even though I do back up to several locations, it is still a pain in the arse to rma hardware, but I reckon there is little enough in the difference between the two.


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