Buying tyres online from now on

Tweenas

Sitting in Joe Duffy motors as I type. Need to buy 4 tyres for my 320. They are looking for 600 euro. I said of I pay cash would they do a deal. Joe Duffy said nope. Have to buy the 4 tyres as weather is so bad and they know this but, won't be back. Does anyone know a website where I can buy tyres online ? Thanks.

Anan1

I got four tyres for a 320d last week, Continental 205/55 R16 RFT. They were €97ea from www.eiretyres.ie or €120ea from my local FastFit including a four wheel alignment. Assuming they're the same size, Joe Duffy are taking the p1ss at that price, I wouldn't buy them on a point of principle.

MarkoC

Tweenas wrote: »

Sitting in Joe Duffy motors as I type. Need to buy 4 tyres for my 320. They are looking for 600 euro. I said of I pay cash would they do a deal. Joe Duffy said nope. Have to buy the 4 tyres as weather is so bad and they know this but, won't be back. Does anyone know a website where I can buy tyres online ? Thanks.

http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=124&cart_id=55884959.124.7885&s_p=Tyres Its Eiretyres.ie straight link

Dealt with them once, takes about 5-7 days to get them here, DPD courier will bring them to your door, will reccommend them.

Cammskills is out of stock nearly from all winter tyres.

dylbert

www.camskill.co.uk if they have the tyres you need in stock and you order before 12 they'll be delivered next day, and you wont find cheaper.



edit....just seen MarkoC's post camskill being out of stock.....

The Dagda

It doesn't mention winter tyres in the OP and I'll vouch for camskills too, started using them in the last 6 months and I'll never buy tyres in Ireland again. Way better prices and way better choice. Delivered next day which is great too.

I use this site to give me an idea of the strengths of the various tyres;

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/

Wicklowrider

Fair play to anyone who gets a bargain anywhere they can.
I was in the market earlier in the year for tyres and checked online prices and specs. In the end I hadn't the neck to ask anyone to fit them locally. Then I found out a family run tyre businees that had closed in my town years ago was still in business elsewhere. Went to see them and they came down on price - not quite as low as net prices, think they were €40 over for the set, but I was happy enough. Then I needed a set for the family car and they took €75 off bringing those very close to net prices. The family run business was WAY lower than big chains - you'd have thought volume would allow the bigger guys to sell cheaper. Since all this happened I found that my father had similar experience with another small tyre seller in wicklow. Not everyone has the time to shop around but if you know any locals willing to deal perhaps name them here if OK by mods?

The Dagda

Wicklowrider wrote: »

Fair play to anyone who gets a bargain anywhere they can.
I was in the market earlier in the year for tyres and checked online prices and specs. In the end I hadn't the neck to ask anyone to fit them locally. Then I found out a family run tyre businees that had closed in my town years ago was still in business elsewhere. Went to see them and they came down on price - not quite as low as net prices, think they were €40 over for the set, but I was happy enough. Then I needed a set for the family car and they took €75 off bringing those very close to net prices. The family run business was WAY lower than big chains - you'd have thought volume would allow the bigger guys to sell cheaper. Since all this happened I found that my father had similar experience with another small tyre seller in wicklow. Not everyone has the time to shop around but if you know any locals willing to deal perhaps name them here if OK by mods?

I think it's great that you were able to haggle with them to get the price down, but the point is, you had to haggle and they still were dearer.
If local suppliers advertised their prices as being even close to online retailers it would make me at least consider them,
but they don't and I don't have the inclination to essentially beg them to charge a more competitive price.

Shadow Dancer

I needed 16" Bridgestone Potenzas early this year. I checked on Eire Tyres.com for the price. I ended up buying them at a local tyre shop as they were actually cheaper. Plus I would have had to pay to get them fitted if I had gotten them off the net. And got a discount on the 4 wheel alignment as I was after buying tyres. So, it pays to shop around I guess

alias no.9

The Dagda wrote: »

I think it's great that you were able to haggle with them to get the price down, but the point is, you had to haggle and they still were dearer.
If local suppliers advertised their prices as being even close to online retailers it would make me at least consider them,
but they don't and I don't have the inclination to essentially beg them to charge a more competitive price.

€40 more than the online price is excellent given they're fitted and most likely disposed of the old tyres too. Find a tyre fitter to fit your online purchased tyres and dispose of the old ones for <€10 a corner and you're doing well.

vetstu

Has anyone used http://uneedtyres.com/ ? They offer mobile fitting in Dublin.

The Dagda

alias no.9 wrote: »

€40 more than the online price is excellent given they're fitted and most likely disposed of the old tyres too. Find a tyre fitter to fit your online purchased tyres and dispose of the old ones for <€10 a corner and you're doing well.

I got 2 vredenstein ultrac sessanta from camskills delivered for €210.
Same tyres are €198 EACH on eirtyres.

Fitted and old tyres taken for €40.

Saving: €186 :eek:

Anan1

The Dagda wrote: »

I think it's great that you were able to haggle with them to get the price down, but the point is, you had to haggle and they still were dearer.
If local suppliers advertised their prices as being even close to online retailers it would make me at least consider them,
but they don't and I don't have the inclination to essentially beg them to charge a more competitive price.

My local FastFit were cheaper and more convenient than eiretyres in the end. For me, this was well worth a few minutes of telephone negotiation.

Re camskill, I tried them several times over a period of a month for winter tyres, and found their selection and availability to be very poor. Eiretyres started jacking up their prices daily, so I ended up ordering from pneus-online.

veetwin

Tweenas wrote: »

Sitting in Joe Duffy motors as I type. Need to buy 4 tyres for my 320. They are looking for 600 euro. I said of I pay cash would they do a deal. Joe Duffy said nope. Have to buy the 4 tyres as weather is so bad and they know this but, won't be back. Does anyone know a website where I can buy tyres online ? Thanks.

I had mine in there for a service a few months ago and they rang me to say I needed 2 new tyres and if they could go ahead and fit them...I enquired how much and they looked for over €700 for two. Got them fitted at a local supplier later for a little over €400 for the exact same!

Online they were only marginally cheaper with the problem of getting them fitted afterwards. Ring around the local suppliers and see offers the best deal. Anyone who gets their tyres at the likes of Joe Duffy without shopping around needs their head examined.

MarkoC

veetwin wrote: »

Online they were only marginally cheaper with the problem of getting them fitted afterwards .

So tyre shops in your area wont fit them if you didnt buy the tyres off from them ? Even in recession ? You buying service not tyres, so im slightly shocked ... This is some SICK attitude from the tyre shopif its true like if you dont buy from them, they wont fit them which actually means a middle finger from them.
Cant believe that, 3 times i used different tyre shops around Cork, always had my own tyres and never had any problems fitting them, roughly 12 yoyos fitted and balanced each tyre.

Reading some comments here i have a feeling that Cork area is the most friendly place to live

Nonoperational

What tyres were they offering for €600?

I recently got 2 Goodyear eagle F1s for €130 each fitted and balanced from fastfit (225/45/17). That beats most online prices after delivery and fitting is taken into account. + it's nice to support local business. I find the fastfit in Cork to be top notch in fairness.

GTE

eiretyres.com will sort ya.

edit:
Just saying this as the link given earlier was a .ie

Velocitee

Checked Camskill and the price for 2 x Nankangs 225/40/18 is practically the SAME as the price I was quoted for 1 in Ireland (125 euro vs 120 euro offline)

Anyone have experience of getting a third party tyre being fitted in Bray/ Wicklow/ Cork.
Maybe we should have a list of independent fitters.

Jeez a lad with just fitting equipment would clean up (wouldn't even have to keep tyres in stock)

TouchingVirus

Any place I've ever called in Dublin or other places never told me to go away because I bought online - is it really that hard to get a fitter? €60-€70 for less than an hour of work, not bad

veetwin

MarkoC wrote: »

So tyre shops in your area wont fit them if you didnt buy the tyres off from them ? Even in recession ? You buying service not tyres, so im slightly shocked ... This is some SICK attitude from the tyre shopif its true like if you dont buy from them, they wont fit them which actually means a middle finger from them.
Cant believe that, 3 times i used different tyre shops around Cork, always had my own tyres and never had any problems fitting them, roughly 12 yoyos fitted and balanced each tyre.

Reading some comments here i have a feeling that Cork area is the most friendly place to live

TBH the difference between the online retailer and the local fitter was so small that I didn't need to ask them. It was better value to buy locally and less hassle and the whole job was done in 40 minutes.

Jacob55

Anan1 wrote: »

I got four tyres for a 320d last week, Continental 205/55 R16 RFT. They were €97ea from www.eiretyres.ie or €120ea from my local FastFit including a four wheel alignment. Assuming they're the same size, Joe Duffy are taking the p1ss at that price, I wouldn't buy them on a point of principle.

Hi,
Which FastFit did you get them in? My local one is quoting me €140 for the same tyres. How did you negotiate the price down?

Cheers
JJ

Stevie Dakota

Jacob55 wrote: »

Hi,
Which FastFit did you get them in? My local one is quoting me €140 for the same tyres. How did you negotiate the price down?

Cheers
JJ

Have you tried DaveMcCann Tyres? He always seems to match the better price and has never let me down.

Anan1

Jacob55 wrote: »

Hi,
Which FastFit did you get them in? My local one is quoting me €140 for the same tyres. How did you negotiate the price down?

Cheers
JJ

Dún Laoghaire, they initially quoted €140 too. The basic drift is that i'd really like to buy them from FF, my family have been using FF for years, but the online quote is so much cheaper, how can you help me to buy them from you? He did his figures, called me back and offered me the four for €480. I agreed on the basis that he'd do a four wheel alignment FOC - it costs them nothing if they're not busy, it should be done annually, and it'd cost you €70-odd if you were paying.

I've used Dave McCann before and found him good, he's just a bit of a trek for me.

Bullseye1

How does a non-mechanical person ascertain the tyre size? My wife has a Nissan Micra and in need of new tyres but the local garage is looking for 55 Euro per tyre.

I might try these eiretyre guys out.

Anan1

Bullseye1 wrote: »

How does a non-mechanical person ascertain the tyre size? My wife has a Nissan Micra and in need of new tyres but the local garage is looking for 55 Euro per tyre.

I might try these eiretyre guys out.

It's written on the side of the tyre: http://www.eiretyres.com/Identifying.html

up-the-dubs

MarkoC wrote: »

So tyre shops in your area wont fit them if you didnt buy the tyres off from them ? Even in recession ? You buying service not tyres, so im slightly shocked ... This is some SICK attitude from the tyre shopif its true like if you dont buy from them, they wont fit them which actually means a middle finger from them.
Cant believe that, 3 times i used different tyre shops around Cork, always had my own tyres and never had any problems fitting them, roughly 12 yoyos fitted and balanced each tyre.

Reading some comments here i have a feeling that Cork area is the most friendly place to live

A defective tyre is taking a risk with peoples lives. Not having purchased the tyre means that the dealer has no idea where it might have come from. Quality of production, cheap knockoff, care during transport, etc etc.

Or, as I heard one guy say one time....

"would you bring a burger into Burger King and ask them to cook it for you?"

No?

Strange then that people get upset when tyre dealers do the same.

996tt

Anan1 wrote: »

I got four tyres for a 320d last week, Continental 205/55 R16 RFT. They were €97ea from www.eiretyres.ie or €120ea from my local FastFit including a four wheel alignment. Assuming they're the same size, Joe Duffy are taking the p1ss at that price, I wouldn't buy them on a point of principle.

in fairness the OP could be driving an MSport on 18s which would mean that Joe Duffys price isnt that bad as 300eur a pop isnt that far of the the going rate for 18s runflats

Anan1

996tt wrote: »

in fairness the OP could be driving an MSport on 18s which would mean that Joe Duffys price isnt that bad as 300eur a pop isnt that far of the the going rate for 18s runflats

That's why I said 'assuming they're the same size'. Although at 4 for €600 from Joe Duffy i'd be fairly sure they're not 18".

MarkoC

up-the-dubs wrote: »

A defective tyre is taking a risk with peoples lives. Not having purchased the tyre means that the dealer has no idea where it might have come from. Quality of production, cheap knockoff, care during transport, etc etc.

Or, as I heard one guy say one time....

"would you bring a burger into Burger King and ask them to cook it for you?"

No?

Strange then that people get upset when tyre dealers do the same.

In that case every tyre which needs puncture must be replaced because most of the times if that happens we dont go back to tyre shop where the tyres were bought ! Oh and warranty means nothing ib these cases anyway They sell service as well, not just tyres imo. Like if you didnt buy the tyres off from them, why you should go to them to repair your tyre ? Another year and they GLADLY take any job, seems like some places doing too well in the recession

BostonB

up-the-dubs wrote: »

A defective tyre is taking a risk with peoples lives. Not having purchased the tyre means that the dealer has no idea where it might have come from. Quality of production, cheap knockoff, care during transport, etc etc....

They shouldn't let the car out the door either. Might be defective.

up-the-dubs

MarkoC wrote: »

In that case every tyre which needs puncture must be replaced because most of the times if that happens we dont go back to tyre shop where the tyres were bought ! Oh and warranty means nothing ib these cases anyway They sell service as well, not just tyres imo. Like if you didnt buy the tyres off from them, why you should go to them to repair your tyre ? Another year and they GLADLY take any job, seems like some places doing too well in the recession

Tyres for punctures are inspected throughly before repair to ensure they are safe. It's inspected afterwards to ensure it's ok before going anywhere near a car. If there's any problem then it's replaced.

Of course warrenty covers tyres!

They sell SPECIFIC services. Tyre fitting isn't one of them. And it makes no difference if it's a recession or not. One lawsuit (and it has happened) and they're bust. Recession or not.

ehhhh..... (for some reason)

MarkoC

Looks like we have very different understandings of tyre shops/garages ...
Now if they dont sell the winter tyres at all here, all the people should go to UK to change theyr tyres if they want to use the same wheels ?
And theres plenty places selling seconf hand tyres correct ?
So every tyre fitter should be well trained to see and understand when something is wrong with the tyre, you trying to tell me that its impossible to notice that if i bring my own tyres or you trying to tell me that tyres off drom the net are not inspected and are worse than local dealers sell for double money ?

thats where the term "rip off ireland" comes from

up-the-dubs

MarkoC wrote: »

Looks like we have very different understandings of tyre shops/garages ...

Correct.

The rest of your post makes no sense.

biko

I got 2 Uniroyal Rainexpert from Camskill for 120 total incl delivery to door.
Fitting was 25 I think with galwaycarservice, prob quicker and cheaper with Francis in Clonboo.

Reviews
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Uniroyal/RainExpert.htm
http://www.tyretest.com/summercar_tyres/uniroyal/rainexpert/index.html

Well worth it.

Jacob55

Anan1 wrote: »

Dún Laoghaire, they initially quoted €140 too. The basic drift is that i'd really like to buy them from FF, my family have been using FF for years, but the online quote is so much cheaper, how can you help me to buy them from you? He did his figures, called me back and offered me the four for €480. I agreed on the basis that he'd do a four wheel alignment FOC - it costs them nothing if they're not busy, it should be done annually, and it'd cost you €70-odd if you were paying.

I've used Dave McCann before and found him good, he's just a bit of a trek for me.

Thanks.....I will give it a go. FastFit in Dún Laoghaire is handy for me.

Cheers
JJ

Ush1

biko wrote: »

I got 2 Uniroyal Rainexpert from Camskill for 120 total incl delivery to door.
Fitting was 25 I think with galwaycarservice, prob quicker and cheaper with Francis in Clonboo.

Reviews
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Uniroyal/RainExpert.htm
http://www.tyretest.com/summercar_tyres/uniroyal/rainexpert/index.html

Well worth it.

I'm thinking of getting a pair of them from Camskill for my Focus.

Anyone know the cheapest place in Dublin that would fit them?

MarkoC

Pair is not good enough, you going to over steer or under steer the car ...
But IF you go for the pair only, always put the best tyres on rear axe, doesnt matter which wd car you have ....

TouchingVirus

It's €15 per wheel in Phoenix Tyres, I got my new summers put on there before the NCT in September. Atlas on the Drumcondra road wanted €20 per tyre.

Ush1

MarkoC wrote: »

Pair is not good enough, you going to over steer or under steer the car ...
But IF you go for the pair only, always put the best tyres on rear axe, doesnt matter which wd car you have ....

Why is the pair not good enough? The other 2 tyres have loads of tread left.

Also, I've heard conflicting arguments with regards wheel rotation.

Esel

MarkoC wrote: »

Pair is not good enough, you going to over steer or under steer the car ...
But IF you go for the pair only, always put the best tyres on rear axe, doesnt matter which wd car you have ....

The conventional best advice is to always fit the best tyres on the front.

up-the-dubs

esel wrote: »

The conventional best advice is to always fit the best tyres on the front.

Nope. Mark is right. Best tyres always on the rear irrespective of FWD or RWD.

Esel

up-the-dubs wrote: »

Nope. Mark is right. Best tyres always on the rear irrespective of FWD or RWD.

We can agree to differ on that. It has been discussed at length here before.

up-the-dubs

esel wrote: »

We can agree to differ on that. It has been discussed at length here before.

The internet clearly knows better than the companies that invest millions in tyre development then.

BostonB

AFAIK, You get the best performance on the front. But its "safer" to put them on the back. Because you'll naturally slow down to suit the tyres on the front. But if the back slides out, its very hard to catch it in many cars.

Mozoltov!

Shadow Dancer wrote: »

I needed 16" Bridgestone Potenzas early this year. I checked on Eire Tyres.com for the price. I ended up buying them at a local tyre shop as they were actually cheaper. Plus I would have had to pay to get them fitted if I had gotten them off the net. And got a discount on the 4 wheel alignment as I was after buying tyres. So, it pays to shop around I guess

Potenza's are a serious tyre. Are they manufactures recommendations that you needed to get them or are they just your tyre of choice? What are you using them on?

up-the-dubs

up-the-dubs wrote: »

The internet clearly knows better than the companies that invest millions in tyre development then.

The best tyres on the back argument is fine and holds water, it's a good thing to do for complete and utter numpties who drive with no regard for the conditions. However I personally prefer to have my best tyres on the front as it's the fronts do most of the stopping in an emergency. I never want to have an accident because I have my best tyres on the back just because tyre sites mention that is the thing to do to prevent f***tards from oversteering a fwd car in the wet. I can prevent my car oversteering by driving at an appropriate speed to the conditions and roadsurface, in an emergency I want more thread on the fronts than the back tyres.

kerten

Every one has a point about putting new pair of tyre to which axle. And they are true. But recommendations always targets people who doesn't have a clue about oversteering, tread depth, aquaplanning, etc.

So for average joe who drives his car in same way regardless weather, road condition, tyre conditions, it is safer to put new tyres to back axle and make sure he has proper front tyres(over 2.5- 3mm thread, not older than 3 years) while doing that.

For people who is aware of terminology above, they drive w.r.t to their decision as RoverJames pointed in post above.

IMO, We don't need to agree on holy choice here:D

Anan1

Or you could just do what I do - rotate regularly and replace all four tyres together.:)

Esel

up-the-dubs wrote: »

The internet clearly knows better than the companies that invest millions in tyre development then.

Maybe, if by the internet you mean you....