03.01.11 Bank Holiday?

Idbatterim

Hi, will the 03.01.11 be a Bank Holiday? I dont think it is, but need to be sure. Mods please move if not in the correct forum! Im sure the answer here will be "your ma" or something similar!

Pherekydes

Banks will be on a permanent bank holiday soon enough.

Danbo!

Idbatterim wrote: »

Hi, will the 03.01.11 be a Bank Holiday? I dont think it is, but need to be sure. Mods please move if not in the correct forum! Im sure the answer here will be "your ma" or something similar!

Chances are every day next year will be a bank holiday

EDIT: shite

Donkey Oaty

Idbatterim wrote: »

Hi, will the 03.01.11 be a Bank Holiday? I dont think it is, but need to be sure. Mods please move if not in the correct forum! Im sure the answer here will be "your ma" or something similar!

I understand that March 1st 2011 is National Pig Day in the USA, if that's any help.

Irish Guitarist

I Googled it and apparently the third of January is New Years day according to this website http://www.bankholidaydates.co.uk/HolidayDates/year/Ireland/2011.aspx.

I don't think so, but you get a day off in lieu at some stage. Will probably be that day, I'd say my office will do that

AnonoBoy

I'm taking it off anyway.

F*ck you banks!

5starpool

Yes it is a bank holiday, same as any static bank holiday (christmas, Paddy's day, etc) that falls on a weekend day, it is carried over to the Monday.

28064212

5starpool wrote: »

Yes it is a bank holiday, same as any static bank holiday (christmas, Paddy's day, etc) that falls on a weekend day, it is carried over to the Monday.

Nope, the 25th, 26th and 1st are always the holidays. However, when a holiday falls on a weekend, you are entitled to a day off in lieu. Typically, most businesses do just use the next working day

barbiegirl

28064212 wrote: »

Nope, the 25th, 26th and 1st are always the holidays. However, when a holiday falls on a weekend, you are entitled to a day off in lieu. Typically, most businesses do just use the next working day

Yep our personnel dept. informed us that as it is not a B/H however as we would be due the day in lieu anyway they were shutting the company for the next working days. Which is general practice

Donkey Oaty

28064212 wrote: »

Nope, the 25th, 26th and 1st are always the holidays. However, when a holiday falls on a weekend, you are entitled to a day off in lieu. Typically, most businesses do just use the next working day

Indeed. From Citizens Information:

Employees who qualify will be entitled to either the public holiday off as paid leave or one of the following alternatives:

• A paid day off within a month of the public holiday
• An additional day of annual leave
• An additional day's pay
• The nearest church holiday to the public holiday as a paid day off

The Organisation of Working Time Act provides that you may ask your employer at least 21 days before a public holiday, which of the alternatives will apply. If your employer fails to respond at least 14 days before the public holiday, you are entitled to take the actual public holiday as a paid day off.

Incidentally, I think the law is different in the UK, where their "substitute days" (i.e. the 3rd of January 2011) basically carry the same weight as a Bank Holiday - maybe some legal boffin can clarify this.

dotsman

28064212 wrote: »

Nope, the 25th, 26th and 1st are always the holidays. However, when a holiday falls on a weekend, you are entitled to a day off in lieu. Typically, most businesses do just use the next working day

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

Indeed. From Citizens Information:



Incidentally, I think the law is different in the UK, where their "substitute days" (i.e. the 3rd of January 2011) basically carry the same weight as a Bank Holiday - maybe some legal boffin can clarify this.

To be extremely pendantic, the OP did ask about bank holidays and not public holidays. This Xmas, the 27th, 28th and 29th are all Bank Holidays as well as January 3rd!

robinph

dotsman wrote: »

To be extremely pendantic, the OP did ask about bank holidays and not public holidays. This Xmas, the 27th, 28th and 29th are all Bank Holidays as well as January 3rd!

What is the 29th for?

ejmaztec

robinph wrote: »

What is the 29th for?

Projectile Vomiting Day.

28064212

dotsman wrote: »

To be extremely pendantic, the OP did ask about bank holidays and not public holidays. This Xmas, the 27th, 28th and 29th are all Bank Holidays as well as January 3rd!

To be accurately pedantic, bank holidays and public holidays in Ireland are exactly synonymous. Or to be even more pedantic, there's officially no such thing as a bank holiday in Ireland, it's a colloquial term

dotsman

robinph wrote: »

What is the 29th for?

Because it's a bank holiday! Bank Holidays are not Public holidays (although people use the word interchangeably without realising the difference)

28064212 wrote: »

To be accurately pedantic, bank holidays and public holidays in Ireland are exactly synonymous. Or to be even more pedantic, there's officially no such thing as a bank holiday in Ireland, it's a colloquial term

I wouldn't agree with them being "exactly synonymous". Bank Holidays are simply days that the banks are closed, whereas Public holidays are legally mandated holidays. For the most part they are the same, except there are 2 bank holidays that are not public holidays - the 3 days of Xmas (of which only Xmas day and Steve's day are public holidays) and good friday.

Typically, banks and most public services observe the bank holidays (although not legally obliged to), whereas retail, serves etc do not.

The term "bank holiday" just comes from the fact that the bank closed.

28064212

dotsman wrote: »

I wouldn't agree with them being "exactly synonymous". Bank Holidays are simply days that the banks are closed, whereas Public holidays are legally mandated holidays. For the most part they are the same, except there are 2 bank holidays that are not public holidays - the 3 days of Xmas (of which only Xmas day and Steve's day are public holidays) and good friday.

Typically, banks and most public services observe the bank holidays (although not legally obliged to), whereas retail, serves etc do not.

The term "bank holiday" just comes from the fact that the bank closed.

Bank holidays have no status in Ireland. You can say it's a "town bank holiday" when a local branch closes for a training day. You can call them post office holidays if you want. Good Friday has exactly the same status as the Feast of the Immaculate Conception, or Yom Kippur, or any other religious holiday

In the UK they do have official status. Public holidays are on the pre-defined days. The bank holidays are set by 'royal proclamation' to be the first working day after public holidays.

robinph

dotsman wrote: »

Because it's a bank holiday! Bank Holidays are not Public holidays (although people use the word interchangeably without realising the difference)

I wouldn't agree with them being "exactly synonymous". Bank Holidays are simply days that the banks are closed, whereas Public holidays are legally mandated holidays. For the most part they are the same, except there are 2 bank holidays that are not public holidays - the 3 days of Xmas (of which only Xmas day and Steve's day are public holidays) and good friday.

Typically, banks and most public services observe the bank holidays (although not legally obliged to), whereas retail, serves etc do not.

The term "bank holiday" just comes from the fact that the bank closed.

The 29th is not a bank holiday, they might skive off work for the day but that is just because they are lazy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_holiday

crixus veritas

Just to set it out too in case people are wondering - everyone has a right to benefit from a public holiday (unless you've worked less than 40 hours total in the previous 5 weeks). So if you normally work say Thurs to Sunday, and there is a Public Holiday on the Monday, you are entitled to various equivalents of 1/5 of your weekly wage.

orourkeda

Idbatterim wrote: »

Hi, will the 03.01.11 be a Bank Holiday? I dont think it is, but need to be sure. Mods please move if not in the correct forum! Im sure the answer here will be "your ma" or something similar!

Yeah your ma's a bank holiday

dotsman

28064212 wrote: »

Bank holidays have no status in Ireland. You can say it's a "town bank holiday" when a local branch closes for a training day. You can call them post office holidays if you want. Good Friday has exactly the same status as the Feast of the Immaculate Conception, or Yom Kippur, or any other religious holiday

In the UK they do have official status. Public holidays are on the pre-defined days. The bank holidays are set by 'royal proclamation' to be the first working day after public holidays.

I fully agree with you that they have no legal status. That is exactly what I said in my post. A bank holiday is just a confusing colloquial that people use instead of a "Public Holiday". The term "Bank Holiday" comes from the fact that Bank's are closed (and thus, traditionally, other offices would be too).

robinph wrote: »

The 29th is not a bank holiday, they might skive off work for the day but that is just because they are lazy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_holiday

If you don't believe that it's not a bank holiday, please prove me wrong by going down to your local branch on that day and enjoy queuing outside:D. In Ireland, a Public Holiday is a legal holiday and is the official term for what you are describing. A Bank Holiday, which has no official meaning, merely refers to the bank's being closed (they have their own traditional calendar).

limklad

Idbatterim wrote: »

Hi, will the 03.01.11 be a Bank Holiday? I dont think it is, but need to be sure. Mods please move if not in the correct forum! Im sure the answer here will be "your ma" or something similar!

Bank Holidays:yes, public holiday:no

dotsman

Just to put an end to the whole Bank Holiday v Public holiday mess. IPSO have the BANK holidays for 2010- 2012 published here.

Please note the inclusion of Good Friday and the Xmas Bank holidays despite them not being Public Holidays.