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Sligo-North Leitrim Election 2011 Mod Warning #290

  • 23-11-2010 1:39pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 942 ✭✭✭


    Well it looks like one is coming. :rolleyes:

    Will everyone vote for the same old daft feckers that got us into this mess.

    so who is it for you? 118 votes

    Fianna Fáil
    0% 0 votes
    Fine Gael
    11% 13 votes
    Labour Party
    26% 31 votes
    Sinn Fein
    12% 15 votes
    Socialist/UAL
    22% 26 votes
    Greens
    13% 16 votes
    Independent
    2% 3 votes
    Other
    5% 6 votes
    Undecided
    0% 0 votes
    Not Voting
    6% 8 votes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Well it looks like one is coming. :rolleyes:

    Will everyone vote for the same old daft feckers that got us into this mess.



    I didn't vote those daft feckers the last couple of times.

    :D

    Who knows, but a serious change is needed from the top down.

    Serious answer. I suppose we have to wait until the candidates are announced. See who running and leading the various parties, and take into account the greater good, the running of the country and not just the constituancy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Personally, Jimmy Devins and Declan Bree and Eamonn Scanlon can kiss my ass for a vote. They'll be lambasted if they have the cheek to turn up at my door!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Pete M.


    irish-stew wrote: »
    Who knows, but a serious change is needed from the top down.

    I reckon that should be from the bottom up.

    All of those at the 'Top' are so far removed from the reality on the ground, that as far as I can see, none of them deserve any of our votes.

    It's gotten to the stage where I'm seriously thinking of running myself!

    I have no prior political experience,not affiliated to any party.

    Flirted with the Greens :eek: but decided against that. I'm still a committed tree hugger though :cool:

    The SWP flirted with me (and anyone else who gets out on the street), but I just don't dig it, but would probably be a socialist in the broad sense of the term.

    My main beefs are with the EU and capitalism. One because of it's commitment to the other.

    The EU has too much power. We need to be able to make decisions closer to home and make local politicians relevant.

    On a local level, something has to be done with the health and education systems, as well as helping people out who are in need of it.

    Just imagine all the people out there, busting themselves to pay a mortgage for a house not worth the money, while hundreds of other houses lie empty and people living in squalor, totally insane.

    Capitalism is just sh1t.

    So I'm for radical political reform and making the economy serve the people, not the other way round. And making sure that sustainability was the cornerstone of any new direction.

    As well as revisiting the Corrib gas field issue, big time, and stopping the dodgy US military flights through Shannon.

    So who'd vote for me?


    tl:dr

    I'm thinking of running in the election and want to know if I'd get your vote..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    I'm in two minds right now, do I put a sign up saying "no politicians" on my gate and postbox. Or should I let them come down the drive and my German Sheperds will 'greet' them for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 382 ✭✭tedshredsonfire


    I am pretty much A political but if FG got in which is likley then Perry would be in a good spot for a ministerial post which would be gret for sligo as I am sure he would get things for sligo. Unfortuanltly that goes back to the problem of cronyism and local deals but too much of that went to Healy rae in Kerry. If Kenny was leader it could be good for the west.
    Pete while I really admire you for even considering going forward show me where socialism works? I really like the idea but it hasn't worked anywhere in the world. Capitalism is the reason you pay a few pence for a tea bag, why innovation happens, why products get improved, why we are now talking on a forum. M Fingleton getting a million bonus as the society he ran went down the tubes is not capitalism but corruption. Ditto for the banks. Even the socialist union leaders are on six figure salaries.
    Please don't see this as capitialism.
    All that being said I would applaud you to the roof tops for running and taking a stand for your beliefs but proabably still wont vote for you purely on ideology. I wouldn't do it for love or money so good luck to you Pete.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    Lads,I haven't been around Sligo much lately,what's the story,did a seat become free?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭Sligored


    I cant see perry and mcloughlin not getting in.
    I wonder will devins even put his name forward.
    I expect eamon scanlon to get in by a small margin ahead of okeeffe , colreavy and marc mcsharry.
    Awaiting a backlash:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    I am pretty much A political but if FG got in which is likley then Perry would be in a good spot for a ministerial post which would be gret for sligo as I am sure he would get things for sligo. .


    This is precicely the sort of attitude that has the country in the state it's in. The job of a TD should be to legislate on behalf of the country as a whole, not spend half their waking hours getting potholes filled and atending funerals

    If you need something local done, that is what local councilors are there for. Go annoy them ,and leave legislating to legislators.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    greetings wrote: »
    Lads,I haven't been around Sligo much lately,what's the story,did a seat become free?

    Ummm... the impending General Election perhaps?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭magnumlady


    I got in touch with a local FF TD last November to see if there was anything he could do to help Jono get his surgery.
    I got a reply from him in March :eek:
    So apart from this latest fiasco there's no way they would get my vote.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭il gatto


    I'm in two minds right now, do I put a sign up saying "no politicians" on my gate and postbox. Or should I let them come down the drive and my German Sheperds will 'greet' them for me.

    Why "no politicians"? Do you feel the last FG/Lab government did a bad job? In what areas specifically? Personally I think they did a very good job in their short term of office.
    Or are you of the "sure they're all the same" opinion?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Pete M.


    All that being said I would applaud you to the roof tops for running and taking a stand for your beliefs but proabably still wont vote for you purely on ideology. I wouldn't do it for love or money so good luck to you Pete.

    Thanks. But I am completely aware that there are those who would rather maintain the status quo.

    Turkeys wouldn't vote for Xmas :D

    But as far as I know now, Declan Bree will run as an independent socialist, so I don't want to be accused of splitting the vote and don't think I'll be running now.

    I reckon between him and Michael Colreavy, we have two candidates who would certainly be an alternative to the current crop of gombeens.
    I'm in two minds right now, do I put a sign up saying "no politicians" on my gate and postbox. Or should I let them come down the drive and my German Sheperds will 'greet' them for me.


    Let loose the dogs :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭mistermouse


    I wouldn't rate Perry as a TD at all but he'll probably get elected. I do not see what credentials he has that would make him a good minister for the country, if Fine Gael reward him just for keeping a seat in Sligo then they will be another shower like we have

    Hard to see where the funds will be for him to provide lots locally, and the country and Sligo needs to start thinking national issues for a change.

    No point in changing one team for a similiar team of Gombeen Politics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭shellyriver


    Are you serious about being a candidate, I note you're reservation with Bree entering the field. If you believe you are a credible candidate, I would be interested in meeting you and discussing same.

    Bree will not get elected, he will simply wish to scupper Labour's O'Keefe. Therefore, all the Left, which includes O'Keefe, Bree and maybe MacManus will be looking for same tranche of voters.

    If you have something different to offer ie independent, logical and strong left-centred social solidarity candidate then please PM me. Whilst Bree will have his supporters, I don't think any association with Jim Higgins, who is an articulate and passionate politician, will see extra votes in Sligo/North Leitrim real politics here.

    Don't bother with particulars ie name and address in PM if you're unsure -- but if you are considering running a campaign, I'd love to hear from you.

    Unless this Government is changed are economic sovereignty will be further eroded.

    In any event, Ireland must seek debt forgiveness and/or debt repudiation to be repaid at a later time (maybe decades from now)!

    But what is required for the North-West is a strong, logical and independent voice, democratically elected.

    Best Wishes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    Ummm... the impending General Election perhaps?

    I am not with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,164 ✭✭✭Konata


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    I think I got my point across :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    magnumlady wrote: »
    I got in touch with a local FF TD last November to see if there was anything he could do to help Jono get his surgery.
    I got a reply from him in March :eek:
    So apart from this latest fiasco there's no way they would get my vote.

    While I have sympathy with your situation, that is not the job of a TD and the sooner people in this country realise that the better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭magnumlady


    While I have sympathy with your situation, that is not the job of a TD and the sooner people in this country realise that the better.

    It might not be a job for a TD but surely it would have been polite to answer sooner....and when I hear about matters that TD's do get involved in it just makes me angry.
    It was the citizens information centre that sent me to the TD otherwise I wouldn't have gone anywhere near him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭il gatto


    I wouldn't rate Perry as a TD at all but he'll probably get elected. I do not see what credentials he has that would make him a good minister for the country, if Fine Gael reward him just for keeping a seat in Sligo then they will be another shower like we have

    Hard to see where the funds will be for him to provide lots locally, and the country and Sligo needs to start thinking national issues for a change.

    No point in changing one team for a similiar team of Gombeen Politics

    Apparently he did good work on the government accounts commitee and is highly thought of within the party.
    For the second time on this thread I ask someone, is it your contention that the major parties are all the same?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    I wouldn't rate Perry as a TD at all but he'll probably get elected. I do not see what credentials he has that would make him a good minister for the country, if Fine Gael reward him just for keeping a seat in Sligo then they will be another shower like we have

    If that's what you believe, then he should be perfectly qualified to be a TD. After all, our currrent minister of finance has vast amounts of experience - as a barrister.
    Bree will not get elected, he will simply wish to scupper Labour's O'Keefe. Therefore, all the Left, which includes O'Keefe, Bree and maybe MacManus will be looking for same tranche of voters.
    Bree will have lost a substantial number of votes over his pressing to get O'Connell Street re-opened, and the decision to remove the eastern link bridge from the regeneration plan. Two reasons why he lost my vote anyway, and i am only one person
    il gatto wrote: »
    Apparently he did good work on the government accounts commitee and is highly thought of within the party.
    For the second time on this thread I ask someone, is it your contention that the major parties are all the same?

    Me personally? No I don't think so. I don't think FG are perfect, but they definitely have the right idea about what needs doing in this country. They are the best out of what we have, by a large mile.
    Labour seem to be fairly ok, but are too interested in serving the unions, an organisation bullyboys that I think will be the downfall of this country.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Essexboy


    If that's what you believe, then he should be perfectly qualified to be a TD. After all, our currrent minister of finance has vast amounts of experience - as a barrister.


    Bree will have lost a substantial number of votes over his pressing to get O'Connell Street re-opened, and the decision to remove the eastern link bridge from the regeneration plan. Two reasons why he lost my vote anyway, and i am only one person



    Me personally? No I don't think so. I don't think FG are perfect, but they definitely have the right idea about what needs doing in this country. They are the best out of what we have, by a large mile.
    Labour seem to be fairly ok, but are too interested in serving the unions, an organisation bullyboys that I think will be the downfall of this country.

    They are the best out of what we have
    Is that why they are running Tony McLoughlin who is FF Lite as a candidate here? McLoughlin, O'Grady, Clarke - you could not put a paper between them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭il gatto


    If that's what you believe, then he should be perfectly qualified to be a TD. After all, our currrent minister of finance has vast amounts of experience - as a barrister.


    Bree will have lost a substantial number of votes over his pressing to get O'Connell Street re-opened, and the decision to remove the eastern link bridge from the regeneration plan. Two reasons why he lost my vote anyway, and i am only one person



    Me personally? No I don't think so. I don't think FG are perfect, but they definitely have the right idea about what needs doing in this country. They are the best out of what we have, by a large mile.
    Labour seem to be fairly ok, but are too interested in serving the unions, an organisation bullyboys that I think will be the downfall of this country.

    I was trying to get to the bottom of this widespread belief that FG will be no different from FF. I've heard it for years now. My view is much the same as your own.
    FG resemble FF in as much as they are a center/right (ish) party. Where they differ is that they have had 1-2 "scandals" over the years, Michael Lowry being the main one and he now props up FF in government. FF on the other hand have a litany of scandals, proven and quietly ignored/deflected.
    FF have traded on being the working man's party whilst simultaneously shafting them in favour of their bosses and their bosses' bosses.
    The media have absolutely failed the people of Ireland in not bringing to light the constant and immoral policies of the past government. It now sees which way the wind is blowing and is exposing the government lies and deceptions the way it should've for years.
    Remember that FF have been the party of almost permanent government in this country. When anybody says there isn't a viable alternative, I ask why? How can we know? In the last 23 years, Labour have spent 4 years in power, FG only 2. FF have been in power for 21 of the last 23 years. Many voters barely know of a time when FF weren't in power.
    Yes they were elected, but that is more a reflection of their campaign team and media pull than anything else. Remember we were told at the last election that "we" wanted a safe pair of hands with the economy? Really? A solicitor as minister for finance (one who stoked an overheating economy) who gets anointed the Taoiseach and puts a barrister in his old job. No wonder we're f@cked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭fionntan g


    itl be the same sh1t as usual

    "lets vote for him because he went to loads of funerals,shook lots of hands and bought loads of pints ect"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭westtip


    Does anyone think either of the two FF boys will jump ship and not stand - yesterday Aherne stood down in Louth - Are we going to see an avalanche of FF TDs just throwing in the towell and sayind sod it I am off to enjoy the over inflated pension.

    It wouldn't surprise me if Jimmy Devines stood down - Both of them will have the added pressure of not having fought hard enough to save the Cancer services in Sligo on top of the national issues.

    I don't think its beyond the realms of possibility to see 2 FG returned - and Labour and FF fighting out for the 3rd seat - transfers will play a massive part in this election for the final seats and I reckon ours will be very tight for the third seat. The FF vote is really going to implode in the county IMO.

    I would urge people to not include FF on any part of their ballot paper - throwing in the odd transfer to FF may give them a seat they don't deserve. Personally on this occassion I would like to see FG get a clean sweep with 3 seats - highly unlikely but very desirable IMO!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭il gatto


    westtip wrote: »
    Does anyone think either of the two FF boys will jump ship and not stand - yesterday Aherne stood down in Louth - Are we going to see an avalanche of FF TDs just throwing in the towell and sayind sod it I am off to enjoy the over inflated pension.

    It wouldn't surprise me if Jimmy Devines stood down - Both of them will have the added pressure of not having fought hard enough to save the Cancer services in Sligo on top of the national issues.

    I don't think its beyond the realms of possibility to see 2 FG returned - and Labour and FF fighting out for the 3rd seat - transfers will play a massive part in this election for the final seats and I reckon ours will be very tight for the third seat. The FF vote is really going to implode in the county IMO.

    I would urge people to not include FF on any part of their ballot paper - throwing in the odd transfer to FF may give them a seat they don't deserve. Personally on this occassion I would like to see FG get a clean sweep with 3 seats - highly unlikely but very desirable IMO!!!

    Firstly Devins and Scalan didn't "not fight hard enough". They actually voted in support of the proposal and against the wishes of their electorate. They voted to take something from the people they are well paid to represent. Then the snivelling, yellow bellied gombeens made a play of giving up the whip, promising not to vote again to damage services at Sligo General but actually doing exactly that in a recent vote.
    And secondly, never underestimate the hardline FF'er and their ability to put party before people, county, country and all else. It's all about getting "their man" in at the expense or the lad down the road. For the last 13 years it's all been about Bertie and his "charisma" and how they are the only "viable" government. They can be divided into 3 groupings. The ones who get the planning, zoning and contract decisions, the ones who get their road tarred and the children into council jobs and then the poor misfortunate saps who canvass and brag but get nothing in return but they don't realise that in the warm glow of being on the winning side. They get shafted by policy but all they care about is "their" man getting elected over some "blueshirt".
    I for one hope the unscrupulous, devious, self serving, arrogant, washed up, inept shower of b@stards get an electoral kicking they never recover from.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Essexboy


    westtip wrote: »
    Does anyone think either of the two FF boys will jump ship and not stand - yesterday Aherne stood down in Louth - Are we going to see an avalanche of FF TDs just throwing in the towell and sayind sod it I am off to enjoy the over inflated pension.

    It wouldn't surprise me if Jimmy Devines stood down - Both of them will have the added pressure of not having fought hard enough to save the Cancer services in Sligo on top of the national issues.

    I don't think its beyond the realms of possibility to see 2 FG returned - and Labour and FF fighting out for the 3rd seat - transfers will play a massive part in this election for the final seats and I reckon ours will be very tight for the third seat. The FF vote is really going to implode in the county IMO.

    I would urge people to not include FF on any part of their ballot paper - throwing in the odd transfer to FF may give them a seat they don't deserve. Personally on this occassion I would like to see FG get a clean sweep with 3 seats - highly unlikely but very desirable IMO!!!

    Devins will not stand down. One of his supporters told me he loves politics - God knows why but he does! And he is in the media again, banging on about social welfare fraud, which backs up the idea that he will run again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 382 ✭✭tedshredsonfire


    il gatto wrote: »
    I for one hope the unscrupulous, devious, self serving, arrogant, washed up, inept shower of b@stards get an electoral kicking they never recover from.
    Stop pussyfooting around gatto and tell us what you really think of FF


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭il gatto


    Stop pussyfooting around gatto and tell us what you really think of FF
    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,307 ✭✭✭T runner


    Theres a petition here from Fintan O'Toole. Hs 10,000 signatories already. May not be everyones cup of tea but worth a look at the points to see.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    il gatto wrote: »
    Why "no politicians"? Do you feel the last FG/Lab government did a bad job? In what areas specifically? Personally I think they did a very good job in their short term of office.
    Or are you of the "sure they're all the same" opinion?

    Actually I'll revise that - No Fianna Fail, No Green party and No Fine Gael. The rest I'll give a fair hearing to. Why no Fine Gael? Because they'll tow the Fianna Fail line once they're in power. I can't help feel they're delighted the IMF/ECB deal is sorted out. All we'll probably hear is "Well the deal was brokered when we were opposition, however we can't go back........blah, blah, blah."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭mistermouse


    I don't think the Political Parties have taken on board what is needed at all and will present poor candidates.

    With the exception of Pearse Doherty in Donegal SW, no Party has in recent years opted for a candidate of any true calibre in years.

    I do think theres little between the FF and FG parties to be honest and don't rate any of their candidates in Sligo/Leitrim on past performance, yet I'll bet Perry and Devins are on the polling sheet.

    While I do rate many in the FG front bench, they will still stand by Perry and Enda kenny, neither of which are great advertisments for the party as a whole.

    Labour also are not strong in the NW but given that they see Frank McBrearty as credible in Donegal, I doubt they rate the North West either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭il gatto


    Actually I'll revise that - No Fianna Fail, No Green party and No Fine Gael. The rest I'll give a fair hearing to. Why no Fine Gael? Because they'll tow the Fianna Fail line once they're in power. I can't help feel they're delighted the IMF/ECB deal is sorted out. All we'll probably hear is "Well the deal was brokered when we were opposition, however we can't go back........blah, blah, blah."

    That's my point though. Based on what? They've barely being in power since the mid eighties. With a few exceptions, the 95-97 government was very good (imo, of course). The policies of two center parties will always be similar. It's the gulf in character, morals and diligence that seems to mark them apart. FG are not the saviours or anything, but they are not stained with the corruption and failure that FF are. Whilst I am under no illusions that FG will magically fix the country and renew everyone's faith in our political system, they appear to me to be more capable and straight than the outgoing (hopefully) shower.
    As for giving the rest a fair hearing, I feel Labour have been very dissapointing since Gilmore took over. He's no doubt a capable speaker, but I feel the party's rise in the polls is down more to dissatisfaction with the FF/Green mess, some populist catch cries and keeping very quiet on policy. Labour don't seem to have the stomach for cuts in the public service and that is a vital aspect of national recovery. Having said that, I have more faith in the caliber of most of their spokespeople than the incumbants. The likes of Rabbitt, Howlin and Quinn are consistantly impressive.
    Outside of the main three, I don't see a party with anything like a realistic set of implementable policies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,307 ✭✭✭T runner


    il gatto wrote: »
    That's my point though. Based on what? They've barely being in power since the mid eighties. With a few exceptions, the 95-97 government was very good (imo, of course). The policies of two center parties will always be similar. It's the gulf in character, morals and diligence that seems to mark them apart. FG are not the saviours or anything, but they are not stained with the corruption and failure that FF are. Whilst I am under no illusions that FG will magically fix the country and renew everyone's faith in our political system, they appear to me to be more capable and straight than the outgoing (hopefully) shower.
    As for giving the rest a fair hearing, I feel Labour have been very dissapointing since Gilmore took over. He's no doubt a capable speaker, but I feel the party's rise in the polls is down more to dissatisfaction with the FF/Green mess, some populist catch cries and keeping very quiet on policy. Labour don't seem to have the stomach for cuts in the public service and that is a vital aspect of national recovery. Having said that, I have more faith in the caliber of most of their spokespeople than the incumbants. The likes of Rabbitt, Howlin and Quinn are consistantly impressive.
    Outside of the main three, I don't see a party with anything like a realistic set of implementable policies.

    I think FF needs to be hammered to at least send a message to polticians that demonstartes what happens when you F UP.

    And they are unique re: scandals, although they are closest to FG policy wise.

    We have a very old style of politics in Ireland.

    TDs have 19th century work patterns. 3 long days in Dail Eireann and the remainder of the week at home at the parish pump. They arent national politicians. If you look at TDs in the Dail they are usually married men, conservative, with teh wife at home minding ther kids where she should be.
    Most are farmers, publicans, teachers or solicitors. They simply dont represent us.

    Unfortunately this motley crew of barmen etc are the ones with the power to make the changes so we shouldnt be surprised that nothing has or will change.

    The problem is only partly who we vote for. The problem is mainly the candidate sheet thatw e must choose from.

    Ive been slated for this but I am voting for a party that will enforce gender quotas for candidates. Im a male myself but i honestly dont see any other way to change the type of politicians we have.

    We need new men and new women to represent us not the same old tired cronies from teh same old cronie professions.

    That knocks FF out of the reckoning staright away ofcourse.

    That said Id encourage any females out there to start getting interested in politics. We badly need you!!!!

    The parish pump gobsheens day should be long over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    il gatto wrote: »
    That's my point though. Based on what? They've barely being in power since the mid eighties. With a few exceptions, the 95-97 government was very good (imo, of course). The policies of two center parties will always be similar. It's the gulf in character, morals and diligence that seems to mark them apart. FG are not the saviours or anything, but they are not stained with the corruption and failure that FF are. Whilst I am under no illusions that FG will magically fix the country and renew everyone's faith in our political system, they appear to me to be more capable and straight than the outgoing (hopefully) shower.
    As for giving the rest a fair hearing, I feel Labour have been very dissapointing since Gilmore took over. He's no doubt a capable speaker, but I feel the party's rise in the polls is down more to dissatisfaction with the FF/Green mess, some populist catch cries and keeping very quiet on policy. Labour don't seem to have the stomach for cuts in the public service and that is a vital aspect of national recovery. Having said that, I have more faith in the caliber of most of their spokespeople than the incumbants. The likes of Rabbitt, Howlin and Quinn are consistantly impressive.
    Outside of the main three, I don't see a party with anything like a realistic set of implementable policies.

    I agree that I might have been a bit harsh with my judgement of Fine Gael. I am aware they haven't had a significant period of power since the eighties. However I can't separate them from Fianna Fail policy wise and therefore I am very wary of them. When all is said and done, if Fianna Fail are obliterated and the Greens rendered extinct, well I'd be happy enough with that outcome.
    Yet it is really hard to believe that after all the turmoil this country has been through, a new political party or force hasn't emerged as an alternative option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭mountainy man


    Is a list of candidates for the election known yet?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Pete M.


    Is a list of candidates for the election known yet?

    Don't think there is anything officail yet and probably won't be until an election is actually called.

    D. Bree will probably run as a United Left Alliance candidate and I also hear that despite most Sligo people thinking that he has let them down very badly (possibly understatement of the year), Jimmy Devins is also going to run again.

    M. Colreavy will be running for SF and Tony McLoughlin for FG.

    I think Michael Clarke has also indicated that he will run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭Sligored


    perry running for fine gael and okeeffe for labour


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Essexboy


    Pete M. wrote: »
    Don't think there is anything officail yet and probably won't be until an election is actually called.

    D. Bree will probably run as a United Left Alliance candidate and I also hear that despite most Sligo people thinking that he has let them down very badly (possibly understatement of the year), Jimmy Devins is also going to run again.

    M. Colreavy will be running for SF and Tony McLoughlin for FG.

    I think Michael Clarke has also indicated that he will run.

    So much for the new politics! a guy who was convicted of fraud wants to run for the Dáil and will, no doubt, get a lot of local support. You could see it as irony - let's put a real crook in there - but they do not do irony in West Sligo. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Pete M.


    Essexboy wrote: »
    - but they do not do irony in West Sligo. :mad:

    And I bet they all hate the Rubber Bandits too :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭mountainy man


    Thanks guys, will do a bit of home work now, I don't have much faith in the goons we have at the mo, we bady need a change.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Essexboy


    Pete M. wrote: »
    And I bet they all hate the Rubber Bandits too :D

    “I swear on my tache, it’s decent hash”. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Vintagekits


    added an anonymous poll!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    T runner wrote: »
    Ive been slated for this but I am voting for a party that will enforce gender quotas for candidates. Im a male myself but i honestly dont see any other way to change the type of politicians we have.

    Surely that isn't you're only criteria for choosing a party to vote for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 dr.shephard


    A geder quota is a bad idea. candidates will be selected by their gender rather than ability.
    You could end up with totally incapable representatives.
    Personally I would like to see more women get involved in politics, however nobody should be selected as a candidate just to keep a gender balance.
    I am a member of a political party and we have 5 women in the cumann, one is treasurer but none of the others were willing to take a job at all.
    At election time they aren't prepared to canvass for more than a 2-3 hours a week whereas most of the men would be canvassing for at least a couple of hours every day.
    One of the girls is someone who I think could have a future in local politics and a few of us have tried to persuade her to become more involved with the party but to no avail.
    I just don't think there are as many women as men interested in becoming involved in politics, therefore a gender balance is unrealistic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 dr.shephard


    The good Doctor is due to announce his intention not to contest the election.

    good riddance


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Essexboy


    The good Doctor is due to announce his intention not to contest the election.

    good riddance

    He has cut back on constituency work already.

    MacSharry for FF and Clarke as independent would be an interesting development as they are cousins. Would not vote for either of them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 dr.shephard


    What constituency work?
    I doubt if McSharry wanted to run this time round but he now has little choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭shellyriver


    Bit disappointed to hear this. Was really looking to seeing getting hockeyed.

    Tears came to my eyes when I heard Devins isn't running. Tears of joy! Boom tish! This is running like a Peter Kay gag-line, much like Irish politics, but in their case its gag-reflex.

    Shoo in now for Perry and O'Keefe -- my prediction.

    Envitable that the Noble Doctor 'Save our Hospital' Junior Minister for Ill-Health Devins was going to get an almight hammering.

    Watching a battle selection between the, in my opinion, quite possibly the two slimiest mo-fos in Sligo Mark 'look at my hair line eight years ago in a Chamber of Commerce poster - because you can trust me really I'm not a balding Senator McSharry and that other deluded wannabe, Jude 'my time must come but my election poster also makes he look like an aborted alien's foetus left out in the sun to decompose' Devins -- would be wonderous.

    Have to admit, as to the possibilty of change that virtually every politician under the Sun is pure self-serving scum, really apathetic about this election, if ever our country was sold into ecomonic bondage, this lot Fianna Fail/Greens have managed to do so.

    Forget about, Dail Erin Germany-owned Bond Holders decide the fiscal future of this sad little Isle.

    In short the next bunch will be every bit as bad. Enjoy the three-ring circus that is called democracy - imagine the ticket is free, ie a vote, it won't cost you anything, just you and your children's future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 dr.shephard


    Rumours are that FF are considering running Senator Plastic Mooney from Drumshanbo in an effort to do damage to michael Colreavy, and ensure Eamonn Scanlon holds his seat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭Wester


    Watching a battle selection between the, in my opinion, quite possibly the two slimiest mo-fos in Sligo Mark 'look at my hair line eight years ago in a Chamber of Commerce poster - because you can trust me really I'm not a balding Senator McSharry and that other deluded wannabe, Jude 'my time must come but my election poster also makes he look like an aborted alien's foetus left out in the sun to decompose' Devins -- would be wonderous.

    Seriously, with all the problems that this country has experienced in the past few years at the hands of the government and the best you can come up with is personal abuse focusing on two potential candidates' appearance. Grow up.


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