Newbies Guide to how to receive Premier League on Foreign Satellites

sob1467

I was just asked by a friend about how to set up a foreign satellite system for watching football of different companies than Sky. This is the tutorial I wrote for him. So I think I’ll post it here for any persons thinking about going down that route.

The worst thing about having a satellite setup is the first year and the amount of money that it takes to get set up but let me tell you after you have switched you will never look back.

Firstly you need a biggish dish 80/90/100cm which will set you back around €50 or so I bought mine of this guy on Ebay. You will also have to ask him what lnb you require which will set you back another €20. It is optional but for the best viewing experience i would recommend a motor for your dish to enable you to switch between various satellites. The installation of the sets will vary from installer to installer I would say from around €40 to about €100 Or if you want a real challenge you could try the installation yourself just Google for a tutorial.

http://shop.ebay.ie/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m570.l1313&_nkw=100cm+satellite+dish

http://shop.ebay.ie/i.html?_nkw=80cm+satellite+dish&_sacat=0&_dmpt=UK_ConEle_SatCableFreeview_RL&_odkw=100cm+satellite+dish&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

http://shop.ebay.ie/i.html?_nkw=satellite+motor&_sacat=0&_dmpt=UK_ConEle_SatCableFreeview_RL&_odkw=80cm+satellite+dish&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

Now you have your dish you need a receiver. It is really up to yourself on how much you spend on a box for a cheapish HD with cardreader you are looking at around €100 but you can pay anything up to around €400+ for a really top end satellite receiver


http://www.satshop.tv/VU-Duo-Twin ( Top End )

http://satsklep.pl/index.php?s=produkt&id_prod=1481&id_kat=278&id_typu=0 (Lower end the one I own one)

And now to talk about subscription cards there are many different cards out there . This is a very handy document for you to read

http://ondemand.ddns.me/Pay-TV.pdf

I currently have both a cyfra card which cost me €160 for 12 months and an aljazeera sports card which cost me €100 for 12 months.

http://satsklep.pl/index.php?s=produkt&id_prod=1250&id_kat=80&id_typu=0
The link above is to a polish site which is a reputable company. I've dealt with twice and it was recommended by the boards community

http://cgi.ebay.ie/AL-JAZEERA-SPORT-CARD-12-MONTHS-Spanish-Italian-League-/320601867177?pt=UK_ConEle_SatCableFreeview_RL&hash=item4aa55c43a9


The Cyfra card shows the PremierLeague it USUALLY (but not always shows the 12:45 Sat game a 3:00pm Sat and 5:30 game on Sat and usually shows 2 games on Sunday) The majority of matches are in HD but sometimes they are not when they clash with polish football. They have showed 13 of the 14 man united matches so far this season.. The commentary of these games are polish but if you have a second satellite dish (I use the old freesat one and you'll be able to use your sky one if you have one) and a second satellite box even like this crappy one below and a laptop. You can connect the laptop to the sat box and switch on bbc radio 5live or whatever station the commentary is on and delay the sound using freeware called radio delay you can then synchronise the sound to have the sound on the radio and pictures on the telly in sync.

http://cgi.ebay.ie/ECHOLINK-777-FTA-SATELLITE-RECEIVER-BRAND-NEW-/120645623844?pt=UK_ConEle_SatCableFreeview_RL&hash=item1c170a2024

The Aljazeera card only costs €100 and it has an awful lot of football on it ( SPL, La Liga, Ligue 1, Euro 2012 qualifiers, MLS, Championship, Russian League, Serie A, Carling Cup, FA Cup, Club World Championship, Argentian League, Brazilian League, Copa Del Rey, Copa Italia, and the Dutch League )on 8 sports channels and the vast majority of that is in English and on a champions league night you have gary Lineker and other English pundits on there.

There are various other cards for example Tring which costs about £260 and shows almost every single Premiership game and mostly in English but not in HD. There are question marks on whether or not this will continue but at the moment it is a very good deal.

http://69.46.27.82/~alsatoff/shop/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=123&Itemid=1

There also various packets from companies such as Sky italia and deutschland and Viasat which are very impressive but cost around €800. Have a look at this site for info on cards
http://69.46.27.82/~alsatoff/shop/in...id=16&Itemid=1
or http://www.tvcorner.com/index.php/cP...6ab1962d0622e8
or http://www.techdigital.co.uk/categories/Viewing-Cards/


Regards and good luck with your Set up

Keith186

Nice one, have bookmarked for future reference if I go down this road!

Superfin

I'd just add a note of caution for the last link you have posted. I would advise people to avoid using Marconi Digital based on my experiences. I purchased an ART Card from them for €140 and 2 months later the card stopped working. They requested that I send the card back and they would issue a new one but I have received nothing back despite sending numerous emails to every connected e-mail address to do with their company. I also contacted them via e-bay and received nothing back. Others on Boards have been stung by them in the past and I would just like to make other aware.

Pal

+1 on Marconi.

I got stung too.

Think the company is a bloke with a mobile phone and a pocket full of cards

Alsat, on the other hand, seem to be professional cowboys. No probs there.

miltown man

hi.gud tutorial der,gettin me a motorised dish to go wit my vu duo plus and world subscription,just wonderin and its prob a stupid q but will dis dish pick up sky itilia,is der any 1 dish in particular dat will do for absolutley everything,provided its on a motor wit a 360 view,

Newtown90

miltown man wrote: »

hi.gud tutorial der,gettin me a motorised dish to go wit my vu duo plus and world subscription,just wonderin and its prob a stupid q but will dis dish pick up sky itilia,is der any 1 dish in particular dat will do for absolutley everything,provided its on a motor wit a 360 view,

No dish will pick up everything!...

But a 1.2m dish will pick up most satellites for you with a clear view of sight...

I have put a sky dish on a motor for my uncle and it pulls in most of 19.2e and 13e but i wouldn't recommend it!

Get a bigger dish and get the most out of that motor..

miltown man

ya i think deats the way to go.really all i need is 28 e for sky uk and 13.o for sky itilia,for a much better selection of football.or maybe 23.5 for canal digital.spose ders not really much point in makin a big job out of it.the thin gs we do for football..go on united.cheers lads

azzeretti

miltown man wrote: »

ya i think deats the way to go.really all i need is 28 e for sky uk and 13.o for sky itilia,for a much better selection of football.or maybe 23.5 for canal digital.spose ders not really much point in makin a big job out of it.the thin gs we do for football..go on united.cheers lads

Are you missing some keys on your keyboard!

If you already have a Sky dish up you're better off getting another 80cm and pointing it at hotbird. A motor can be tricky to setup even for someone who knows what their doing!

I have a 1.2m motor and to be honest I only ever use it for Sky UK and for Hotbird for the UTD games. I rarely, if ever use any others to be honest!

Pal

Pal wrote: »

+1 on Marconi.

I got stung too.

Think the company is a bloke with a mobile phone and a pocket full of cards

Alsat, on the other hand, seem to be professional cowboys. No probs there.

I'm contradicting myself here but Alsat are not exactly covering themselves in glory right now.

mightybashful

thanks to the OP on this. Never knew any of this stuff exsisted til I read this thread. Al Jazeera card came Wednesday after I got everything installed. All set for Copa America tonight

sob1467

mightybashful wrote: »

thanks to the OP on this. Never knew any of this stuff exsisted til I read this thread. Al Jazeera card came Wednesday after I got everything installed. All set for Copa America tonight

Its good to hear you got some use out of it:)

mightybashful

sob1467 wrote: »

mightybashful wrote: »

thanks to the OP on this. Never knew any of this stuff exsisted til I read this thread. Al Jazeera card came Wednesday after I got everything installed. All set for Copa America tonight

Its good to hear you got some use out of it:)

Like a dog with 2 mickies here

shayser

Thanks for the post. I'm considering going down the foreign satellite route and confusion reigns!

Would the pdf - http://ondemand.ddns.me/Pay-TV.pdf - be available anywhere else or would you have a copy? The site is down.

Cantona's Collars

shayser wrote: »

Thanks for the post. I'm considering going down the foreign satellite route and confusion reigns!

Would the pdf - http://ondemand.ddns.me/Pay-TV.pdf - be available anywhere else or would you have a copy? The site is down.

Site still down-best to wait a couple of weeks and the guys here will know for definite what cards and providers are the best for the upcoming season.
No point ordering cards etc. only to find out they are useless.

Keep an eye on this forum and you can't go too far wrong.

halfback5

gonna jump on board chaps, pulls up seat

Tonio

Hi All,

I dropped my Sky sub 6 months ago in favour of Freesat.

A couple of years ago I installed a second dish (80cm Triax). Thanks to all the great advice on boards I now have installed a Triax multi-lnb bracket and have both 13E and 19.2E FTA channels using a Disecq Switch and an MVision S-4 SD receiver.

For the new footie season I would like to get a foreign sub for EPL. I am interested in the HD Cyfra+ card from Satsklep (around €170 for 13 months I believe). I will need to replace my MVision receiver with a HD receiver.

I would like your opinions on what receiver to buy with bearing the following in mind:

- Must be HD
- Must be compatible with Cyfra+ card
- Needs to work with my disecq switch i.e. to receive both 13E and 19.2E
- I would also like a receiver that can take an Al Jazeera card as well as the Cyfra card
- I do not need a PVR but if I could connect a USB HDD that would be a bonus
- Not looking for something too expensive

I think those are all the requirements but if I have missed anything obvious I would appreciate your comments and advice.

Newtown90

Vu+ solo all the way m8...

It wouldn't let you down on all aspects and is one hell of a box!!

Just wish i could have one

willyb007

The Ferguson Ariva 120 Combo, Can be bought cheap from Satsklep, Only has 1 card reader tho, (But then again can only watch 1 channel at a time!) I have this box and am goin get both Al Jazeera and Cyfra+ cards for it. Its also HD & can recieve DTT & Sat, I have mine hooked up to Hotbird 13E, Astra & Eurobird 28E via a Diseqc Switch and works beautifully so Diseqc not a problem on this box.:D Oh and has PVR & Built in Media player. Perfect for recording the footie!

byte

Well, I still think the Technomate TM6900 Super is a very good receiver with a nice UI, though only has 1 card slot.

There's also the Edision Argus Mini 2in1 (and an IP version), which has 2 card slots. However, I'm not sure what cards this box supports either officially or otherwise.

Tonio

Glenviewjf wrote: »

Vu+ solo all the way m8...

It wouldn't let you down on all aspects and is one hell of a box!!

Just wish i could have one

Wish I could have one too! I googled it just to get a price and it looks like it is way over my budget. Thanks for the suggestion though!

Tonio

willyb007 wrote: »

The Ferguson Ariva 120 Combo, Can be bought cheap from Satsklep, Only has 1 card reader tho, (But then again can only watch 1 channel at a time!) I have this box and am goin get both Al Jazeera and Cyfra+ cards for it. Its also HD & can recieve DTT & Sat, I have mine hooked up to Hotbird 13E, Astra & Eurobird 28E via a Diseqc Switch and works beautifully so Diseqc not a problem on this box.:D Oh and has PVR & Built in Media player. Perfect for recording the footie!

This sounds exactly what I am looking for and your setup is exactly what I need for the new season. Thanks for the advice:)

Tonio

byte wrote: »

Well, I still think the Technomate TM6900 Super is a very good receiver with a nice UI, though only has 1 card slot.

There's also the Edision Argus Mini 2in1 (and an IP version), which has 2 card slots. However, I'm not sure what cards this box supports either officially or otherwise.

Thanks Byte. Does the Technomate support the Cyfra+ and Al Jazeera cards?

willyb007

Tonio wrote: »

This sounds exactly what I am looking for and your setup is exactly what I need for the new season. Thanks for the advice:)

Your welcome lad, I bought 2 these boxes, an 80cm Dish, 2 Diseqc switches for 2 different boxes and heaps of cable especially for the Cyfra+ & Al Jazeera card subscriptions. Will be a great investment in the long run

toby08

most informative thread come on september

Johnmb

Tonio wrote: »

Thanks Byte. Does the Technomate support the Cyfra+ and Al Jazeera cards?

On a related note, does anyone know if the Technomate 7100HD supports the Cyfra+ card? I'm thinking of switching to that this year.

byte

Tonio wrote: »

Thanks Byte. Does the Technomate support the Cyfra+ and Al Jazeera cards?

Yes, it does. It performed well when I had one. Minstrel27 I think has a similar subscription with the same box?

Minstrel27

byte wrote: »

Yes, it does. It performed well when I had one. Minstrel27 I think has a similar subscription with the same box?

Yes both do work with the Technomate TM-6900 HD Combo at least.

sob1467

It should definitely work the technomates multicrypt card reader.

Newtown90

What do ye use to keep the cyfra cards updated lads?

Sorry to go off topic but i heard it no longer updates via ccam..

Just interested in getting one off satskelp...

redout

Glenviewjf wrote: »

What do ye use to keep the cyfra cards updated lads?

Sorry to go off topic but i heard it no longer updates via ccam..

Just interested in getting one off satskelp...

Aye, I can confirm it stopped updating in CCcam. Had to email satsklep and they promptly sent a signal. Very impressed actually - emailed them on saturday evening and they sent the signal on sunday morning!