worms in cattle

leoch

just wondering wat does everyone use to dose heifers for stomach and lung worms i use closamectin but dont know if it is for these worms can anybody help or advise on wat they use thanks

theroad

Depends whether they're dairy in-calf heifers; the options for dairy heifers are very limited.

Closamectin is "for the treatment of mixed trematode (fluke) and nematode or arthropod infestations due to gastrointestinal roundworms, lungworms, eyeworms, warbles, mites and lice of cattle." At least that's what the imb website says. Any ivermectin product will get most worms.

I was at a meeting at the vet's last week and the vet swore that Ivomec was the best of all, and the rep from Merial (who presumably were paying for the cocktail sausages and the sandwiches) modestly agreed with him. But I'm not so sure.

leoch

they are this years sucks from jan -may 2010, is gastrointestinal stomach worms ?

ceannfort

Closamectin will do everything but stomach worms. Zanil and Levacide i believe are the only products that kill stomoach worms. The important thing with the fluke treatments is to check at what stage of fluke they are effective against, as you may have to wait to let the fluke develop or else treat the cattle twice.

snowman707

[QUOTE=theroad;69155729
I was at a meeting at the vet's last week and the vet swore that Ivomec was the best of all, and the rep from Merial (who presumably were paying for the cocktail sausages and the sandwiches) modestly agreed with him. But I'm not so sure.[/QUOTE]

time to change your vet IMO

blue5000

Whatever you use, make sure it is effective against inhibited ostertgia type II. (excuse the spelling) Most white doses and ivermectins work but levamisol is not effective.

But please remember we are not really qualified to give this sort of advice!!

greysides

ceannfort wrote: »

Closamectin will do everything but stomach worms.

Not great on fluke that were picked up in the previous month but otherwise pretty comprehensive.

Zanil and Levacide i believe are the only products that kill stomach worms.

Levacide contains levamisole. A wormer. I think you mean Levafas, which contains oxyclozanide.

Shauny2010

Ive heard that any of the mectin products can damage the soil, it sounds crazy but there seems to be some evidence about it effecting the earthworms and other insect life in the soil.

whelan1

brought in weanlings on friday , they are coughing alot , not blowing . would normally dose them 3 weeks after housing , should i do them now ? and do them again in 3 weeks ?

greysides

whelan1 wrote: »

brought in weanlings on friday , they are coughing alot , not blowing . would normally dose them 3 weeks after housing , should i do them now ? and do them again in 3 weeks ?

Use an ivermectin injection or a white dose, won't need to repeat and hits type II stomach worms. Then need to consider fluke.

Bear in mind it may not be lungworm but a respiratory virus.

greysides

Shauny2010 wrote: »

Ive heard that any of the mectin products can damage the soil, it sounds crazy but there seems to be some evidence about it effecting the earthworms and other insect life in the soil.

Both the parasitic and free-living worms are nematodes with similar physiology so can be similarly affected by the same drugs.
There were/are concerns that organisms (insects, worms) that break down dung pats would be adversely affected by residual drug in the dung. Here is what the manufacturers of Ivomec have to say.

Studies indicate that when ivermectin comes in contact with the soil, it readily and tightly binds to the soil and becomes
inactive.

Shauny2010

greysides wrote: »

Both the parasitic and free-living worms are nematodes with similar physiology so can be similarly affected by the same drugs.

Well I had suspected that there was something making the land heavy and I was blaming the slurry, but since the availability of cheap ivomectin products
I ve been using it wholesale. Ive seen grazing feilds that never get a pinch of fertilizer or slurry lose their "Skin" and become heavy
Has anyone else seen this or could it be something else ?

RobinBanks

I have dry cattle out about a month now in a field that was sprayed off for reseeding. They are being fed silage still but I wonder should I treat them for worms or fluke before I move them onto the grazing land which is a few miles from home? they were treated for worms and fluke at housing but I wonder would they have picked up worms in the month they were out.

It would be handier for me to dose them now as i dont have a yard in the land away from home at the minute.