iOS 4.2 coming today with free iPhone tracking!

Crackity Jones

iPad users will be happy..

http://gizmodo.com/5696097/ios-42-coming-today-soon

Hogzy

Hazahhhhhhh!!!

Jailbreak will be out about 15mins later :P

Rambo

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/11/22ios.html

scout353

Just logged into ITunes and it aint there yet!!!

dubmick

should be there at about 6pm our time (10am PST)

Sad Professor

*The free Find My iPhone feature is available for iPhone 4, iPad or new iPod touch (4th generation).

Apple giving the finger to 3G and 3GS users.

akadesign

Sad Professor wrote: »

Apple giving the finger to 3G and 3GS users.

In fairness I've used the Find My iPhone app to locate 3G and 3GS phones and its fairly hit and miss, the reception in the iP4 is much better and normally locates within seconds.

I can see why they opted to leave older users in the dark as there would be a lot of complaints if it didn't work correctly.

Kimono-Girl

Sad Professor wrote: »

Apple giving the finger to 3G and 3GS users.

well i have the 3gs and i pretty much expected my phone to be forgotten about once the iphone 4 was released, its around 2 years old, and i was well aware i would have to upgrade this June!

ill be waiting on the 4gs!

3g's hardware just cannot cope with the newest software which is to be expected from an old product!

Blazer

Crackity Jones wrote: »

iPad users will be happy..

http://gizmodo.com/5696097/ios-42-coming-today-soon

muthafúckers....I just signed up for mobileme for a year for this feature and for syncing contacts..

Sad Professor

akadesign wrote: »

In fairness I've used the Find My iPhone app to locate 3G and 3GS phones and its fairly hit and miss, the reception in the iP4 is much better and normally locates within seconds.

I can see why they opted to leave older users in the dark as there would be a lot of complaints if it didn't work correctly.

That doesn't make any sense. If Apple were really concerned about the feature not working properly on 3G and 3GS handsets, they would withdraw it from those devices altogether. They haven't. 3G and 3GS users just have to pay a MobileMe subscription to get it. What is going to get more complaints - a free service or a paid service?

There were good reasons for the 3G not getting some of the newer features of iOS 4, but there's no reason for Apple to do this except to make the iPhone 4 look better by deliberately screwing 3G and 3GS users. If you lose your iPhone 3G or 3GS, Apple would prefer that it stay lost, encouraging you to buy a new iPhone 4.

freeze4real

oh yea the release is today.
unlock in coming out possibly tomorrow or on wednesday oh yea oh yea oh yea.:D:D:)

brianhickey

Sad Professor wrote: »

That doesn't make any sense. If Apple were really concerned about the feature not working properly on 3G and 3GS handsets, they would withdraw it from those devices altogether. They haven't. 3G and 3GS users just have to pay a MobileMe subscription to get it. What is going to get more complaints - a free service or a paid service?

There were good reasons for the 3G not getting some of the newer features of iOS 4, but there's no reason for Apple to do this except to make the iPhone 4 look better by deliberately screwing 3G and 3GS users. If you lose your iPhone 3G or 3GS, Apple would prefer that it stay lost, encouraging you to buy a new iPhone 4.

To say they are screwing 3GS users is a bit dramatic, they are just giving a free feature to iPhone 4 people. It is a bonus feature to drive sales, the 4 makes them a lot more money than the 3GS. I could see your point if it was previously free and they started charging for 3G/3GS tracking from today.

guil

brianhickey wrote: »

To say they are screwing 3GS users is a bit dramatic, they are just giving a free feature to iPhone 4 people. It is a bonus feature to drive sales, the 4 makes them a lot more money than the 3GS. I could see your point if it was previously free and they started charging for 3G/3GS tracking from today.

how do ya come to that conclusion, both were the same price at release

Hogzy

guil wrote: »

how do ya come to that conclusion, both were the same price at release

How can you NOT come to that conclusion? Theyre hardly selling more iPhone 3GS 8gb than iPhone 4 16 & 32GB.
So its quite clear the 4 is making them more money than the 3GS.

Just because people are reselling their 3GS to 3rd parties doesnt mean apple make more money (Apart from App Downloads but that is trivial compared to the money to be made from the actual sale of the phone)

brianhickey

guil wrote: »

how do ya come to that conclusion, both were the same price at release

I mean right now they are making a lot more money off the 4 than the 3GS, it costs more now so it makes sense to make it more desirable. It also drives upgrades from the 3G and 3GS.

Sad Professor

brianhickey wrote: »

To say they are screwing 3GS users is a bit dramatic, they are just giving a free feature to iPhone 4 people. It is a bonus feature to drive sales, the 4 makes them a lot more money than the 3GS. I could see your point if it was previously free and they started charging for 3G/3GS tracking from today.

And I could see your point if the Find My Phone feature was new, but it's not. It's an existing feature which many iPhone users are paying to have. Apple have now decided to give it free to iPhone 4 users AND 4th gen iPod Touch (which costs half the price of a 3GS) users, but not to 3GS users. It's not like the 3GS is ancient hardware either. Apple are still selling them.

vinnycoyne

From: http://www.apple.com/iphone/find-my-iphone-setup/

Create a free Find My iPhone account on any iPhone 4, iPad, or iPod touch (4th generation) running iOS 4.2. Once you create an account on a qualifying device, use your Apple ID and password to enable Find My iPhone on your other devices running iOS 4.2. Find My iPhone is not available in all countries.

This would seem to imply that if you create an account on a qualifying device (e.g. someone else's iPhone 4), then you can then use that same account on an older model.

brianhickey

Sad Professor wrote: »

And I could see your point if the Find My Phone feature was new, but it's not. It's an existing feature which many iPhone users are paying to have. Apple have now decided to give it free to iPhone 4 users AND 4th gen iPod Touch (which costs half the price of a 3GS) users, but not to 3GS users. It's not like the 3GS is ancient hardware either. Apple are still selling them.

It just seems like begrudgery, 3GS users are not worse off today than they were yesterday.

coylemj

It's still not there at 4 p.m. but after I clicked the 'Check for Update' button the date for the next check has been set to tomorrow (23rd), it's normally set to seven days out after you do a manual check.

guil

Hogzy wrote: »

How can you NOT come to that conclusion? Theyre hardly selling more iPhone 3GS 8gb than iPhone 4 16 & 32GB.
So its quite clear the 4 is making them more money than the 3GS.

Just because people are reselling their 3GS to 3rd parties doesnt mean apple make more money (Apart from App Downloads but that is trivial compared to the money to be made from the actual sale of the phone)

read my post, also who said anything about the 8GB 3GS, which wasnt available at the release of the 3GS

brianhickey wrote: »

I mean right now they are making a lot more money off the 4 than the 3GS, it costs more now so it makes sense to make it more desirable. It also drives upgrades from the 3G and 3GS.

ah yeah wires crossed i was thinking along the lines of sales of each after release

Sad Professor

brianhickey wrote: »

It just seems like begrudgery, 3GS users are not worse off today than they were yesterday.

I'm not begrudging anyone, I just think it's unfair.

vinnycoyne wrote: »

From: http://www.apple.com/iphone/find-my-iphone-setup/



This would seem to imply that if you create an account on a qualifying device (e.g. someone else's iPhone 4), then you can then use that same account on an older model.

Nice one. I just tried this. Set it up from my iPad as instructed, then logged in on my iPhone 3GS. It worked. I'm currently tracking my iPhone using the Find My Phone app on my iPad.

Hogzy

guil wrote: »

read my post, also who said anything about the 8GB 3GS, which wasnt available at the release of the 3GS

You said the iPhone 4 isnt making them more than the 3GS.
I'm saying it is because the current sales of the iphone 4 are higher than the iphone 3GS. What does last years sales figures/profits have anything to do with new features being added.
Its common practice for companies to support their newer products to promote people into buying them.
What Apple is doing is perfectly acceptable sales tactics.

brianhickey

Sad Professor wrote: »

I'm not begrudging anyone, I just think it's unfair.

I agree with you there, but as Bill Gates said in the Simpsons, "I didn't get rich by writing a bunch of cheques!"

akadesign

Sad Professor wrote: »

That doesn't make any sense. If Apple were really concerned about the feature not working properly on 3G and 3GS handsets, they would withdraw it from those devices altogether. They haven't. 3G and 3GS users just have to pay a MobileMe subscription to get it. What is going to get more complaints - a free service or a paid service?

There were good reasons for the 3G not getting some of the newer features of iOS 4, but there's no reason for Apple to do this except to make the iPhone 4 look better by deliberately screwing 3G and 3GS users. If you lose your iPhone 3G or 3GS, Apple would prefer that it stay lost, encouraging you to buy a new iPhone 4.

I see your point but I think Apple need to be smarter with their marketing tactics this time round, especially with mobile devices. They still supported their PPC machines up until last year, I have an 8 year old Mac running 10.5 which is crazy when you compare the hardware requirements for Windows.

The iPhone 4 is drastically different to the 3GS so they more people that adopt these devices, this will mean a better experience for the end user.

guil

Hogzy wrote: »

You said the iPhone 4 isnt making them more than the 3GS.
I'm saying it is because the current sales of the iphone 4 are higher than the iphone 3GS. What does last years sales figures/profits have anything to do with new features being added.
Its common practice for companies to support their newer products to promote people into buying them.
What Apple is doing is perfectly acceptable sales tactics.

my point was the 3gs at release cost 599 for the 16gb
iphone 4 at release cost 599 for the 16gb, see what i'm getting at now

Hogzy

guil wrote: »

my point was the 3gs at release cost 599 for the 16gb
iphone 4 at release cost 599 for the 16gb, see what i'm getting at now

What would this have ANYTHING to do with adding a free feature to the iPhone 4?
its just standard marketing practice. Would ye be complaining if the iPhone 4 had the find me feature from day one?

guil

i'm not complaining at all about it, i have an iphone 4 so doesnt affect me at all

January

I think I will do a happy dance...

Unlock here I come!

Reganovski

Update now on iTunes

Elessar

If you have the greenpoison jailbreak installed can you simply update to 4.2 through iTunes since it's a bootrom exploit, and still be jailbroken?

Hogzy

Elessar wrote: »

If you have the greenpoison jailbreak installed can you simply update to 4.2 through iTunes since it's a bootrom exploit, and still be jailbroken?

would this work with Limera1n too?

guil

Hogzy wrote: »

would this work with Limera1n too?

yes but it will be tethered, theres also talk of it always being a tethered jb if ya update now

Elessar

Sorry I meant Limerain!

Hogzy

guil wrote: »

yes but it will be tethered, theres also talk of it always being a tethered jb if ya update now

What do ya mean by tethered? Im a dumb ass noob sorry!!!

EDIT: @sherif_Hashim is saying you must save your SHSH files. How do you do this?

guil

http://thefirmwareumbrella.blogspot.com/ on the right handside is the download links
run that and click save SHSH, tetherd means every time ya restart the pphone or it crashes, ya will have to run the jb tool again for the phone to work

naasrd

Just downloaded and installed it!

PaulT21

naasrd wrote: »

Just downloaded and installed it!

Has anyone found the AirPrint or AirPlay settings??:o

dubmick

haven't found the settings but to play a song through your airport express you just click on the icon to the right of the next track button when playing a song

ingen

just updated to 4.2, downloaded the find my iphone app, it says i need to install the app on another ios device , if i loose my iphone.......


is there no web based page to go to to track it?


cheers

Johnmb

ingen wrote: »

just updated to 4.2, downloaded the find my iphone app, it says i need to install the app on another ios device , if i loose my iphone.......


is there no web based page to go to to track it?


cheers

me.com lets you do it online if you've subscribed to MobileMe, so I assume it'll let you do it (minus the other stuff) if you've registered for the free version as well.

ingen

ok found instructions here!

http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/find-my-iphone-setup/


how to setup the free iphone tracking!

Tazzle

vinnycoyne wrote: »

From: http://www.apple.com/iphone/find-my-iphone-setup/



This would seem to imply that if you create an account on a qualifying device (e.g. someone else's iPhone 4), then you can then use that same account on an older model.

FYI. It's working on my iPad & iPhone 3GS

barryd09

anyone having a problem with the 4.2 download?
the file is downloading fine and then extracts but when it goes to "verifying with apple" its giving me an error saying "the iphone software update server could not be contacted or is temporarily unavailable"....

if it matters,i jailbroke the phone this morning,iphone 4 running 4.1 and i used limera1n...anyone?or is it just simply congested?

copacetic

it's all a bit meh for the iphone, not much of note added. good to have find your phone for free though I guess.

Crackity Jones

Anyone lose all their ipod songs/videos on their iPhone 4 after the update? I did. Apparently its a known bug.

To solve:

Plug iPhone into iTunes.
The content should be listed under 'XX's iPhone'
Click on any of the songs listed there, play it, then sync

and.... hurrah they will have reappeared on your iPhone!

Dades

barryd09 wrote: »

anyone having a problem with the 4.2 download?
the file is downloading fine and then extracts but when it goes to "verifying with apple" its giving me an error saying "the iphone software update server could not be contacted or is temporarily unavailable"....

if it matters,i jailbroke the phone this morning,iphone 4 running 4.1 and i used limera1n...anyone?or is it just simply congested?

I'm getting that crap as I type. Pain in the ass.

Can anyone with a iPhone 3G report on the performance of 4.2.1, apparently its the best improved ios 4 version for the 3G.

Im_No_Superman

Crackity Jones wrote: »

Anyone lose all their ipod songs/videos on their iPhone 4 after the update? I did. Apparently its a known bug.

To solve:

Plug iPhone into iTunes.
The content should be listed under 'XX's iPhone'
Click on any of the songs listed there, play it, then sync

and.... hurrah they will have reappeared on your iPhone!

Yeah that happened me alright, just did a resync and all my songs and videos were back, no big deal.

bigfeller

Anyone else having an issue with Navigon? On the drive into work this morning the screen would dim every minute and instantly the brightness would come back to normal. Work around is to have the Auto-Lock set to never. But that's not ideal.

Just tried it with a couple of other apps and no issue...

Dades

Crackity Jones wrote: »

Anyone lose all their ipod songs/videos on their iPhone 4 after the update? I did. Apparently its a known bug.

To solve:

...

Thanks for that!

After (finally) updating my iPhone said I had "no content" - only that I read your post earlier I wouldn't have started manually adding everything all over again...

Doing a sync made everything appear as before.

mailforkev

It's all installed and working fine for me, nothing funny happened.

The new text tones are brutal, gave them a shot there. I don't know who Apple thinks wants a 5-10 second alarm every time a text pops in.

Happy with the free Find my iPhone feature, it's the only thing I would have wanted in the MobileMe subscription, just in case the phone goes AWOL...

Like 99.99% of people I don't have an Apple TV or Airprint printer so can't test those features.

So it's really a fairly non-event upgrade from 4.1 (on an iPhone 4 at least).