Lowry and Jackie Healy withdraw support - RTE

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The two independents supporting the Government have withdrawn their support from the government according to RTE.

Wolfe Tone

And down comes the house of cards.

johnnyrotten

Pair of ****heads , they are jumping from a sinking ship

CiaranC

Does this mean the budget, agreed as part of the "deal" with the EU/IMF, wont pass?

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Apologises there appears to be some confusion on this, RTE did report this. I'm not sure what Lowry is saying exactly, a load of political bull just there on the radio.

Sir Oxman

CiaranC wrote: »

Does this mean the budget, agreed as part of the "deal" with the EU/IMF, wont pass?

FG may abstain which would pass the budget

Healy Rae is on RTE Radio and my God, that man is a disgrace!
Kerry South ought to be ashamed!

Minstrel27

That Healy Rae really does annoy me. A rat abandoning a sinking ship is what comes to mind.

yop

2 fkn idiots. Can't even speak.

Talking from one side of their mouth. Bet you they will support them.

Healy Rae is embarrassing. He will be bought out, first of he says that he won't support, then he says he will see what the budget is like.

Its mela mala muppets like him that has this place ruined.

hotmail.com

They may still support the budget.

Sir Oxman

hotmail.com wrote: »

Apologises there appears to be some confusion on this, RTE did report this. I'm not sure what Lowry is saying exactly, a load of political bull just there on the radio.

Lowry was bad, but Healy Rae is on now and I've never heard such a complete idiot speak!

Sideshow Mark

Lowry has just said that he is unlikely to support the budget unless FG and Labour have some input into it. Healy Rae said he needs to see the budget details first, and that the people of Kerry (esp pensioners and students) are looked after.

syklops

CiaranC wrote: »

Does this mean the budget, agreed as part of the "deal" with the EU/IMF, wont pass?

Jackie Healy-Rae has said he might support it. He cant say otherwise until he sees it. If it increases fees for the students or makes cuts for the OAPs he probably wont.

Sponge Bob

JHR wants his generous TD redundancy money before the IMF abolishes that scam.

_Whimsical_

johnnyrotten wrote: »

Pair of ****heads , they are jumping from a sinking ship

There's method in the madness. The more noise they make on the way down the more likely that they will be re-elected in their own constituencies. As always with Irish politicians it's "myself first,my country second" or third or forth.Somewhere down the list of priorities anyway.

yop

I will it again, they are embarrassing. They will be bought.

Cookie_Monster

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

As always with Irish politicians it's "myself first,my country second" or third or forth.

yeah good ol JHR. Me first, Kerry second, fook the rest of ye

maxwell smart

Sideshow Mark wrote: »

Healy Rae said he needs to see the budget details first, and that the people of Kerry (esp pensioners and students) are looked after.

This type of politics is what got us into this mess:mad::mad:

c montgomery

Rats jumping from a sinking ship.

Lowrey saying he wont support the budget but that FG and Labour should support it in the national interest. If it was in the national interest why wouldnt he support it??Because he a selfish asshole who only has his own interests in mind, ie getting elected again based on the fact that he wouldnt support the tough budget.

Healy Rea is everything that is wrong with national politics. He only has interests in himself and doesnt give a dam about the nation. Local issues is what he's strong on and he should never have been more than a councillor.

Sir Oxman

Sponge Bob wrote: »

JHR wants his generous TD redundancy money before the IMF abolishes that scam.

I would hail our new overlords (even though they are the devil in disguise) if they slashed and burned these incompetents payouts. Would love it.
Imagine - starting with immediate effect... and retrospective.

paddy462

c montgomery wrote: »

Rats jumping from a sinking ship.

Lowrey saying he wont support the budget but that FG and Labour should support it in the national interest. If it was in the national interest why wouldnt he support it??Because he a selfish asshole who only has his own interests in mind, ie getting elected again based on the fact that he wouldnt support the tough budget.

Healy Rea is everything that is wrong with national politics. He only has interests in himself and doesnt give a dam about the nation. Local issues is what he's strong on and he should never have been more than a councillor.

Healy-Rae and O'Donoghue are an embarrassment to South Kerry. I don't know how or why people vote for them.
Lowry is a joke, he won't back the budget but it's in the national interest that FG and Labour do, that is ridiculous. A motion of confidence in the Government should be called this week.

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Reuters is reporting that the two independent TDs may not support the budget - this is obviously coming from RTE and is going around the world.

_Whimsical_

paddy462 wrote: »

Healy-Rae and O'Donoghue are an embarrassment to South Kerry. I don't know how or why people vote for them.
Lowry is a joke, he won't back the budget but it's in the national interest that FG and Labour do, that is ridiculous. A motion of confidence in the Government should be called this week.

People of Kerry vote for HR because he'll hold the rest of the country to ransom to get them what they want...thus ensuring his own political survival which is obviously the only thing he cares about.

Dempo1

johnnyrotten wrote: »

Pair of ****heads , they are jumping from a sinking ship

Couldn't agree more, just heard that ugly, fat, useless buffoon Healy Rae on the news at one, Christ all mighty, has politics been reduced to clowns like that been elected. I have some regard for Lowry (not much) but Healy Rae is nothing more than self serving narrow minded clown.

All i can say is good riddens to the greens and FF, they are a complete disgrace.

yop

hotmail.com wrote: »

Reuters is reporting that the two independent TDs may not support the budget - this is obviously coming from RTE and is going around the world.

Sweet God, it gets worse by the hour. Up goes the bond rates, down goes the financial markets!

So now Reuters know that we have dumb and dumber as politicians!!

Sir Oxman

yop wrote: »

Sweet God, it gets worse by the hour. Up goes the bond rates, down goes the financial markets!

So now Reuters know that we have dumb and dumber as politicians!!

Just waiting on a picture of Healy-Rae and son to pop up on Jay Leno next...morto!

the groutch

JHR isnt even seeking re-election, he's just trying to keep the parish pump sweet for his gombeen son to take over

c montgomery

paddy462 wrote: »

Healy-Rae and O'Donoghue are an embarrassment to South Kerry. I don't know how or why people vote for them.
Lowry is a joke, he won't back the budget but it's in the national interest that FG and Labour do, that is ridiculous. A motion of confidence in the Government should be called this week.

Add Ferris to that too, the people of kerry have alot to answer for!!!

If thats the best they have it says alot about the county.

Idbatterim

if an election is going to be held in January now anyway, FG and Labour may abstain from voting... With regards to the four year plan, if and when FG and or Labor get in, will FF's plan not be totally redundant?

bullpost

If I was Conan O'Brien I'd be lining up JHR and son for an interview.

Can you imagine how that would go down after all the stick Americans have taken from Europeans for being stupid over the years.

ArtSmart

yop wrote: »

Sweet God, it gets worse by the hour. Up goes the bond rates, down goes the financial markets!

So now Reuters know that we have dumb and dumber as politicians!!

To be expected, but after a few weeks it'll settle and in Ireland favour.

Once the opp come out with strong statements of general support of EU/ IMF proposals 'twill be grand.

the budget is largely irrelevant now.

and a new govt will be seen as better for all concerned.

Sulmac

The one thing I hope is that, whatever the make up of the next government (although most likely Fine Gael-Labour) they have a huge majority and don't depend on the whims of a few gombeen independent TDs like these two.

yop

gambiaman wrote: »

Just waiting on a picture of Healy-Rae and son to pop up on Jay Leno next...morto!

It couldn't get any worse really.

We have a taoiseach who has been laughed at all over the world, we have a minister of health who well i don't need to say it.
We have TD's who spent the week lying to the people.

As said there on Joe Duffy, the Dail goes on its 6 week break around Jan so won't be around for general election!!!
What are the chances of them still taking 6 weeks.

ArtSmart

Idbatterim wrote: »

if an election is going to be held in January now anyway, FG and Labour may abstain from voting... With regards to the four year plan, if and when FG and or Labor get in, will FF's plan not be totally redundant?

Lowry said he wont be supporting the budget - he wants to force the opp's hand. Bruton has hinted at a limited agreement, but how that'll work is unclear. God i love this stuff.

yop

Sulmac wrote: »

The one thing I hope is that, whatever the make up of the next government (although most likely Fine Gael-Labour) they have a huge majority and don't depend on the whims of a few gombeen independent TDs like these two.

Thats the problem, from our point here in Mayo, thats all we have. All mouthy, funeral visitors who really haven't a clue about how to run anything. They spend their time on MidWest radio having orgasms about the stupidist of things.

I really don't want to see Fine Gael or Labour either, what difference will they make?

Same gravy train, difference political symbols thats all.

quad_red

What are the numbers now then?

Dr. Baltar

quad_red wrote: »

What are the numbers now then?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I belive the government only has a majority of one now.

whatawaster

If a motion of no confidence in Cowen was tabled tomorrow, you can be sure these two clowns will still shoot it down.

I asked this on another thread - is there an immediate rush to get a budget through, now that the IMF are in? Wouldn't a budget put through mandated by the electorate be much more desirable, even if it is two months later?

omahaid

They're the sort of guys that would push children out of the way to get onto the lifeboat.

Dempo1

quad_red wrote: »

What are the numbers now then?

€30 Billion to anglo todate
€10 Billion or near enough to BOI & AIB
€40 Billion borrowed by the two above from the ECB (GOD KNOWS FOR WHAT)
€13 Billion taken out of AIB by depositors in the past three months (One wonders why)
€100 Billion estimated to be required in this IMF bailout
450k Unemployed
81 less FF & GREEN TDS Hopefully!

What a ****ing mess

paddy462

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

People of Kerry vote for HR because he'll hold the rest of the country to ransom to get them what they want...thus ensuring his own political survival which is obviously the only thing he cares about.

I'm from South Kerry and would not vote for either or anyone who supports FF in a million years.

quad_red

Dr. Baltar wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I belive the government only has a majority of one now.

So what exactly are the numbers? Been trying to find out an updated list of who is with who and it's bloody hard to find!

Total number of seats: 166
Vacant 4:

Who has what?

paddy462

c montgomery wrote: »

Add Ferris to that too, the people of kerry have alot to answer for!!!

If thats the best they have it says alot about the county.

Ferris is North Kerry, he is hard worker to be fair.

Sir Oxman

quad_red wrote: »

So what exactly are the numbers? Been trying to find out an updated list of who is with who and it's bloody hard to find!

Total number of seats: 166
Vacant 4:

Who has what?

Top of my head on the govt side:

FF 74
Harney 1
Greens 6
Lowry/Rae 2
=83

maj needed after DSW bye-election 82

mikemac

c montgomery wrote: »

Lowrey saying he wont support the budget but that FG and Labour should support it in the national interest. If it was in the national interest why wouldnt he support it??Because he a selfish asshole who only has his own interests in mind, ie getting elected again based on the fact that he wouldnt support the tough budget.

He's going to top the poll anyway. He is no danger of losing his seat.

As for his support, if funding can be pledged for something like Nenagh hospital which lost its A&E service recently or maybe funding for something in Tipp North , the government can negotiate with him

paddy462

yop wrote: »

Thats the problem, from our point here in Mayo, thats all we have. All mouthy, funeral visitors who really haven't a clue about how to run anything. They spend their time on MidWest radio having orgasms about the stupidist of things.

I really don't want to see Fine Gael or Labour either, what difference will they make?

Same gravy train, difference political symbols thats all.

FG and Labour had the country in a healthy position in '97.

the realpigiron

The fact that we have characters like Lowry, Healy Rae and McGrath in South Tipp in the Dail is an indictment of politics in this country. The electorate keep returning this gombeen filth, the electorate returned Ahern as Taoiseach even though every one knew he was bent.

It's time the people of this country woke up, and started thinking about what sort of representation they want as well as what sort of political system should be in place. If gombeen filth like Lowry , McGrath et al are returned we'll have learned nothing.

paddy462

whatawaster wrote: »

If a motion of no confidence in Cowen was tabled tomorrow, you can be sure these two clowns will still shoot it down.

I asked this on another thread - is there an immediate rush to get a budget through, now that the IMF are in? Wouldn't a budget put through mandated by the electorate be much more desirable, even if it is two months later?

With statements like Lowry's and Healy-Rae's, I think FG and Labour should call for a vote of no confidence in the government, at least this way we know where we stand and otherwise the opposition are running scared.

dRNk SAnTA

The budget still needs to be passed though. It's more important than anything else.

Sir Oxman

the realpigiron wrote: »

The fact that we have characters like Lowry, Healy Rae and McGrath in South Tipp in the Dail is an indictment of politics in this country. The electorate keep returning this gombeen filth, the electorate returned Ahern as Taoiseach even though every one knew he was bent.

It's time the people of this country woke up, and started thinking about what sort of representation they want as well as what sort of political system should be in place. If gombeen filth like Lowry , McGrath et al are returned we'll have learned nothing.

There was a party poll (FG I think) done in Dub Central recently which said if B Ahern ran again he'd still slither in for the 4th seat, if he didn't run FF would not return a seat there - there is no accounting for the awful thickness of some people no matter what part of the country they are from.:mad:

friendface

Lowry has said he will support the budget in the national interest

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Lowry's delaying tactics with the Moriarty Tribunal have worked.

Although the people of Tipp would still vote for him no matter what he did.