Minimum Wage and Social Welfare Cuts

Danno

I read on the front of todays Sunday Independent that Minimum Wage is to be cut by €1 per hour and Social Welfare is to be cut by 5%.

Surely, hacking nearly 12% off lowest wages whilst only hitting SW for 5% is not going to entice too many to take up low paid employment.

Way to go! :rolleyes:

Where's the jobs

dan_d

I agree with hellboy99, but one other thing...that 5% off social welfare figure was floated several weeks ago I think.It's definitely not a new number anyway.

Fentdog84

Of course SW and minimum wage are ridiculously high in this country but so is the cost of living. So massive immediate cuts in those areas would only wreck the economy further. It needs to be done gradually over a 4-5 year period

Inquitus

Danno wrote: »

I read on the front of todays Sunday Independent that Minimum Wage is to be cut by €1 per hour and Social Welfare is to be cut by 5%.

Surely, hacking nearly 12% off lowest wages whilst only hitting SW for 5% is not going to entice too many to take up low paid employment.

Way to go! :rolleyes:

As you allude to, any cut in the minimum wage has to be exceeded by any cut in welfare, or you further discourage people to work. So if 12% is cut off the minimum wage I expect to see 15% off the dole, even the current Gov are not stupid enough to do it differently.........I hope.

thetonynator

Inquitus wrote: »

As you allude to, any cut in the minimum wage has to be exceeded by any cut in welfare, or you further discourage people to work. So if 12% is cut off the minimum wage I expect to see 15% off the dole, even the current Gov are not stupid enough to do it differently.........I hope.

But is the current minimum wage really a problem??? How many companies are moving away or going bust because of the minimum wage, or is this caused by a number of other factors???

wicorthered

In theory a cut to the minimum wage helps Ireland increase competitiveness. Possibly creates more jobs.

The only way is would be effective is if the savings lower pay was passed onto customers. Shops and businesses paying less wages should be able to drop prices thus reducing the cost of living and softening cuts a bit.

I won't hold my breathe on the pay reductions being passed on though!!!

alex73

We are the highest in Europe,

100% Min wage will be cut, but they also need to cut social welfare by 20%, otherwise there is no incentive.

gurramok

thetonynator wrote: »

But is the current minimum wage really a problem??? How many companies are moving away or going bust because of the minimum wage, or is this caused by a number of other factors???

Yes its only one factor. Other factors include high rents, high insurance, high rates, high utility bills etc for businesses. They all need to come down.

Butch Cassidy

Fentdog84 wrote: »

Of course SW and minimum wage are ridiculously high in this country but so is the cost of living. So massive immediate cuts in those areas would only wreck the economy further. It needs to be done gradually over a 4-5 year period

And of course corp. tax is ridiculously low as well as income tax at the higher end not high enough.

alex73 wrote: »

We are the highest in Europe,

And we are lowest corp. tax rate in Europe.

dan_d

I'm afraid (well, I'm not really, I'm just pointing it out) that the minimum wage is very much in the crosshairs of the Gov (and I'd imagine the IMF) tonight by the looks of things.

No bad thing. It's got to be done, we've got to accept. We paid ourselves far too much money over the last few years, and it's part of the reason that we are now at the stage we are at.

I'd be interested to see how that would impact on the CPD.......average paycuts across the private sector are one thing, but lowering the whole minimum wage would suggest the the PS are going to probably have to accept more cuts, as it's just not feasible to keep going like this.

later12

Danno wrote: »

I read on the front of todays Sunday Independent that Minimum Wage is to be cut by €1 per hour and Social Welfare is to be cut by 5%.

5% cut is probably right (and fair) for social welfare, though 8 - 10% would not be unlikely nor grossly unfair.

But a 1 euro cut in the minimum wage is next to impossible. That would amount to a 40 euro cut per week for most people on that wage, and I seriously doubt that anyone thinks that is sustainable without hitting welfare harder than <10%

Timistry

is it actually possible for this government to get any more stupid? Further incentivising the SW system would be detrimental. When the jobs are eventually created, actually going out to work must seem like a viable option to the SW recipients

Mister men

No maximum wage limit then i see.:rolleyes: Funny how most calling for a lowering of the minimum wage are on decent wages. Do you have any idea how heartbreaking it is for someone to work a full week in work and come out with less than 320 euro. I suppose most don't care.

godwin

Fentdog84 wrote: »

Of course SW and minimum wage are ridiculously high in this country but so is the cost of living. So massive immediate cuts in those areas would only wreck the economy further. It needs to be done gradually over a 4-5 year period

At last , someone gets it ,if people want the dole to be cut to 2005/06 levels you got to do it in slow increments. An immediate 33% would horse the country and cripple people depending on the dole to pay mortgages, plus the reality is that any cut can be stomached if the cost of living comes down drastically(rent,heat,electricity)you cant expect people to have less to live on while paying celtic tiger prices.

wolfpawnat

Sickening. €1, in a 40 hour week that is €40 (doesn't seem like a lot) but to a mother with 2 kids in school and a recently made redundant husband. That is the difference between paying the heating!

I know people are angry about SW, but according to reports regarding the "4 year plan" it will be cut progressively to a lower figure. I think any cuts to a low paid person/SW recipient should be slow but steady, people need to become accustomed slowly.

At this time I would like to tell people about Family Income Supplement (FIS) it is available from the SW for low income families!!!!

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/social_welfare_payments_to_families_and_children/family_income_supplement.html


If you are struggling on min wage this is here to help you!!!!

godwin

Timistry wrote: »

is it actually possible for this government to get any more stupid? Further incentivising the SW system would be detrimental. When the jobs are eventually created, actually going out to work must seem like a viable option to the SW recipients

The majority of the people signing on in Ireland are under 24 , therefor they earn €96 a week. Simple maths , if you get €96 a week on the dole or you can earn €300+ a week by working , which would you choose? Plus remember not everyone on the dole wants to be there... The 6% or so that were on the dole when Ireland had full employment is a real indication of who wants to be on the dole.

MagicMarker

€7.65/hour X 37.5 hours = €286 per week.

You're talking about an extra €100 for not being on the dole, with all the expenses that come along with it.

Even for a single person with no dependants that's not worth it, let alone anyone with a family.

Fianna Downfall

Information on the minimum wage cut here

Fianna Downfall

Timistry wrote: »

is it actually possible for this government to get any more stupid?

They do not appear to be very honest with the people. We cannot be sure what information has still yet to come.

doolox

If a single person is on 196 a week and the new min wage (7.65) works out a just under 300 a week that means a gain of less than 100 a week when transport, food, clothes for work etc are taken into account.

The only way this will fly is if min wage workers are recruited from among the young ( low dole already) the self-employed with savings, working spouse or other means ( little or no dole) or adult children living at home.

Given that most. if not all, workplaces have already cut to the bone already so there are no "easy" jobs out there these min wage workers will be working hard for at least 39 hrs a week for a net gain of 100 a week. When a tough day comes at work they'll be gone in flash.

If the govt introduce more taxes on low pay this "gain" will be lower.

There needs to be a quick introduction of low cost items on sale and a massive review of transport costs etc to cut the cost of going to work.
There needs to be development plans put in place at workplace level to transition as many workers as possible off the min wage through productivity increases and job enrichment programs. If min wage workers see their status as temporary it may give them hope for the future. If nothing is done and society comes to depend on a permanent supply of cheap labour to underpin its operations there will be a lot of resentment and social unrest which will make life hard for all of us. Also this cohort of min wage workers will probably pay little or no tax which is of no use to the government except it saves on dole payments.

wolfpawnat

doolox wrote: »

If a single person is on 196 a week and the new min wage (7.65) works out a just under 300 a week that means a gain of less than 100 a week when transport, food, clothes for work etc are taken into account.

The only way this will fly is if min wage workers are recruited from among the young ( low dole already) the self-employed with savings, working spouse or other means ( little or no dole) or adult children living at home.

Given that most. if not all, workplaces have already cut to the bone already so there are no "easy" jobs out there these min wage workers will be working hard for at least 39 hrs a week for a net gain of 100 a week. When a tough day comes at work they'll be gone in flash.

If the govt introduce more taxes on low pay this "gain" will be lower.

There needs to be a quick introduction of low cost items on sale and a massive review of transport costs etc to cut the cost of going to work.
There needs to be development plans put in place at workplace level to transition as many workers as possible off the min wage through productivity increases and job enrichment programs. If min wage workers see their status as temporary it may give them hope for the future. If nothing is done and society comes to depend on a permanent supply of cheap labour to underpin its operations there will be a lot of resentment and social unrest which will make life hard for all of us. Also this cohort of min wage workers will probably pay little or no tax which is of no use to the government except it saves on dole payments.

Agreed. If everything from the litre of milk to the creche fees are reduce, we can lower everything a little. The only thing I am worried about is producers getting the cuts and not the suppliers. Mean that a farmer is forced to be paid less for a gallon of milk but Tesco still get their cut!

colly1

I live in Northern Ireland and am looking on at all these protests against wage cuts. Everyone has to be realistic as the wages in the Republic are at crazy levels not just minimum wage. My wife works in healthcare and if she worked in the republic her wage would nearly DOUBLE. Things are not that much more expensive down south, the difference is about 20%. The rest of the difference is people living beyond there means. Its takes a whole lot more feul to run a big 09 land Rover. LOL and maybe only take the one holiday a year LOL. Our company interviewed people for a sales rep job and recent graduates from Dublin were looking a wage of 35keuro with OTE 50keuro. Wake up the graduate starting wage in northern ireland is £18-20 STG. I could rant all day but I am sure that people will still fell hard done by. Also by having an election wont make a fiddlers of difference as its the same civil servants that will be advising politicans on the best course of action so it wont make a difference. All elections are about power money doesnt matter who is in control same calls would be made. Ok im finished now i fell better.LOL

Padraig Mor

10% cut in social welfare over four years - pathetic. Increase it for 12 months for those who have paid their PRSI. Cut it 10% per year for the lifers.

beagle001

Get fianna fail vermon out of govt now,how stupid and out of touch are they.
Where are the jobs in the first place?
Min wage jobs are not cushy numbers and the money goes right back into the economy,that 40 a week will actually stop people buying their coffee in the local cafe,stop people spending in retail outlets and shrink the economy further.
It is scary beyond belief what damage these clowns are doing to Ireland.
I can't see this going ahead as it makes no sense to do it

COYW

colly1 wrote: »

I live in Northern Ireland and am looking on at all these protests against wage cuts. Everyone has to be realistic as the wages in the Republic are at crazy levels not just minimum wage. My wife works in healthcare and if she worked in the republic her wage would nearly DOUBLE. Things are not that much more expensive down south, the difference is about 20%. The rest of the difference is people living beyond there means. Its takes a whole lot more feul to run a big 09 land Rover. LOL and maybe only take the one holiday a year LOL. Our company interviewed people for a sales rep job and recent graduates from Dublin were looking a wage of 35keuro with OTE 50keuro. Wake up the graduate starting wage in northern ireland is £18-20 STG. I could rant all day but I am sure that people will still fell hard done by. Also by having an election wont make a fiddlers of difference as its the same civil servants that will be advising politicans on the best course of action so it wont make a difference. All elections are about power money doesnt matter who is in control same calls would be made. Ok im finished now i fell better.LOL

Totally, agree. Nice to see some sense. I think that people need to get real now that the IMF are in.

danbohan

beagle001 wrote: »

Get fianna fail vermon out of govt now,how stupid and out of touch are they.
Where are the jobs in the first place?
Min wage jobs are not cushy numbers and the money goes right back into the economy,that 40 a week will actually stop people buying their coffee in the local cafe,stop people spending in retail outlets and shrink the economy further.
It is scary beyond belief what damage these clowns are doing to Ireland.
I can't see this going ahead as it makes no sense to do it

we have imf/ eu bailing us out because we are '' broke ''
we have second highest min wage in Europe and you think nothing needs to change ? , people wonder why our government seem totally removed from reality ,could it be the reflect a large part of Irish society ?

beagle001

So by your logic it makes perfect sense to clean a euro of min wage just off the bat while services and goods are ridiculously overpriced.
What go you think will happen,all will be Rosie?
Local businesses will lose trade and people will suffer more,lower paid did not cause this mess and gained the least.
A gradual reduction of .40 cent would make far better sense but no it has to he a euro.
People on min wage are not wealthy and when you factor in transport to work,rent and sundries it wil leave feck all left over in their wallet to spend and put back into the economy which is exactly what we need right now.
How do you think these jobs are going to be created by magic beans?

ntlbell

MagicMarker wrote: »

€7.65/hour X 37.5 hours = €286 per week.

You're talking about an extra €100 for not being on the dole, with all the expenses that come along with it.

Even for a single person with no dependants that's not worth it, let alone anyone with a family.

that's not taking into consideration, rent allowance, medical cards etc etc

angelfire9

ntlbell wrote: »

that's not taking into consideration, rent allowance, medical cards etc etc

Not everyone gets rent allowance or mortgage interest as the case may be or medical cards
I don't!

As for the etc etc what would that be exactly?

ntlbell

angelfire9 wrote: »

Not everyone gets rent allowance or mortgage interest as the case may be or medical cards
I don't!

As for the etc etc what would that be exactly?

ok, everyone who does get it? that better?

That would be fuel allowances, clothes allowance, unfirom and book allowances and any of the other platora of allowances. oasis.gov.ie should give you an idea

angelfire9

ntlbell wrote: »

ok, everyone who does get it? that better?

That would be fuel allowances, clothes allowance, unfirom and book allowances and any of the other platora of allowances. oasis.gov.ie should give you an idea

Ok the back to school allowance is €250 per year which realistically does not cover the back to school costs of the average child but hey their parents are on SW so it doesn't matter if the child goes to school with no proper uniform or books right??

A Fuel Allowance is a payment under the National Fuel Scheme to help with the cost of heating your home. It is paid to people who are dependant on long-term social welfare or Health Service Executive (HSE) payments and who are unable to provide for their own heating needs.
The scheme operates for 32 weeks from September to the end of April.
Only one payment is paid to a household.

A whole €20 per week which again I am not entitled to because you have to be unemployed more than 15 months or be disabled or on a pension or be a one parent family
Are those on low incomes supposed to freeze every winter?

"any of the other platora of allowances"

not sure what you mean by that?
Most of the other benefits are only available to OAPs

dan_d

colly1 wrote: »

I live in Northern Ireland and am looking on at all these protests against wage cuts. Everyone has to be realistic as the wages in the Republic are at crazy levels not just minimum wage. My wife works in healthcare and if she worked in the republic her wage would nearly DOUBLE. Things are not that much more expensive down south, the difference is about 20%. The rest of the difference is people living beyond there means. Its takes a whole lot more feul to run a big 09 land Rover. LOL and maybe only take the one holiday a year LOL. Our company interviewed people for a sales rep job and recent graduates from Dublin were looking a wage of 35keuro with OTE 50keuro. Wake up the graduate starting wage in northern ireland is £18-20 STG. I could rant all day but I am sure that people will still fell hard done by. Also by having an election wont make a fiddlers of difference as its the same civil servants that will be advising politicans on the best course of action so it wont make a difference. All elections are about power money doesnt matter who is in control same calls would be made. Ok im finished now i fell better.LOL

Well said. Reality bites.
Speaking as someone on the dole, I'll take any job at all.Just want to be working.

ntlbell

angelfire9 wrote: »

Ok the back to school allowance is €250 per year which realistically does not cover the back to school costs of the average child but hey their parents are on SW so it doesn't matter if the child goes to school with no proper uniform or books right??

That's 250 which is almost a weeks wages for someone on minimum wage that they don't get?

angelfire9 wrote: »

A whole €20 per week which again I am not entitled to because you have to be unemployed more than 15 months or be disabled or on a pension or be a one parent family
Are those on low incomes supposed to freeze every winter?

Which someone on minum wage has to work nearly 4 hours to earn that they don't get

all this, "it's just x euro"

it all adds up and it's something people on minimum wage have to pay themselves. Including health insurance, rent/mortgage etc

The point is, which you don't seem to get which is strange for an accountant, is if you add up all the various allowances and if you're someone who can avail of them the amount of money you need to earn in the real world to match what you're getting is a hell of lot more than minimum wage so why would one bother?

godwin

doolox wrote: »

If a single person is on 196 a week and the new min wage (7.65) works out a just under 300 a week that means a gain of less than 100 a week when transport, food, clothes for work etc are taken into account.

.

This argument fails because even when you're on the dole you still need to buy food and pay for transport.

wolfpawnat

ntlbell wrote: »

That's 250 which is almost a weeks wages for someone on minimum wage that they don't get?



Which someone on minum wage has to work nearly 4 hours to earn that they don't get

all this, "it's just x euro"

it all adds up and it's something people on minimum wage have to pay themselves. Including health insurance, rent/mortgage etc

The point is, which you don't seem to get which is strange for an accountant, is if you add up all the various allowances and if you're someone who can avail of them the amount of money you need to earn in the real world to match what you're getting is a hell of lot more than minimum wage so why would one bother?

A person on min wage can apply for the above!

Devilman40k

ntlbell wrote: »

That's 250 which is almost a weeks wages for someone on minimum wage that they don't get?



Which someone on minum wage has to work nearly 4 hours to earn that they don't get

all this, "it's just x euro"

it all adds up and it's something people on minimum wage have to pay themselves. Including health insurance, rent/mortgage etc

The point is, which you don't seem to get which is strange for an accountant, is if you add up all the various allowances and if you're someone who can avail of them the amount of money you need to earn in the real world to match what you're getting is a hell of lot more than minimum wage so why would one bother?

Anyone on minimum wage who is receipt of FIS and/or under certain thresholds ( back to school clothing and footwear allowance for example it is under €593.40 per week for family with 2 children) can apply for any of the above

Gary4279

I think its time this entire country woke up and smelled the heaping pile we have made. Yes WE. There are no innocent people here, just those who are more guilty than others. I really think its time we stopped behaving like spoiled little brats, myself included. No more FF scare mongering or throwing paint over minister no matter how useless they are. We will get an election, if FF are voted in or out we got our say end of.

Now that the IMF are in they will be able to make the bold decisions without caring if they lose face. At least now thing can start to get done. I feel we are going to be feeling the wrath of this for at least another decade, so we better get used to making our own coffee, washing our own car, walking/cycling to work, shopping in Penneys and eating tesco cornflakes.

I for one work part-time in a minimum wage job as I am a full time student. I get around 150 a week if i'm lucky, sometimes thats as little as 70. Although i live with my parents I still pay rent as they cannot afford to support me, pay for my own food, clothes, transport and college bills.And I for one welcome the reduction of minimum wage, sure I'll have to walk to work and college (both over an hour away), wear old clothes and live further within my means but its what has to be done.

I also welcome the hike in reg fees for students, and Ive another 3 years of college ahead of me. Its what has to be done.

I also believe that those on the dole should have their payments cut the longer they are on it. The amount of junkies and lowlifes I see everyday in town/work is pathetic, no other country would stand for it. Sure there may be exceptions if there are kids ect... involved but I think the dole has gotten out of control, its crazy, some of these people sit around all day, get their money and have nicer clothes than me, have a car ect... The welfare should be about getting enough to get by, not fund someone for their life.

My god its a disgrace, perhaps thats why when i was in 6th year alot of the people in my year had a plan to 'go on the labour'. In the 50's the welfare was barely enough to get by, food would have to be bought in bulk, bags of flour to make bread. whats wrong with that, its not like people will starve, we've gotten to comfy in this country. It really annoys me the lazy and selfish attitude that some people have. FFS, we are broke, we cannot afford to live like this, end of.

mcko

Once the min wage is cut it opens the floodgates for IBEC to cut everyone elses wage. It is incrediable they cut the poorest in society and the gamblers, sorry developers, are still living the life of Reily.
I suppose you only get crap if you take crap:mad:

wolfpawnat

Gary4279 wrote: »

I also welcome the hike in reg fees for students, and Ive another 3 years of college ahead of me. Its what has to be done.

My son's father is already paying €10,000 a year. I think that is more than enough honestly. I don't mind my fees going up, but his cannot possibly go up much more!

godwin

Are you posting this from 1982? either that or you need to report your employer for underpaying you.

Gary4279 wrote: »

I get around 150 a week if i'm lucky, sometimes thats as little as 70.

wolfpawnat

We are allowing ourselves take the crap, if we fought tooth and nail and made sure the lives of the rich that put the country so far up shít creak were a living hell, we would at least have them thinking before they cut the poorest and most at need!

Kess73

MagicMarker wrote: »

€7.65/hour X 37.5 hours = €286 per week.

You're talking about an extra €100 for not being on the dole, with all the expenses that come along with it.

Even for a single person with no dependants that's not worth it, let alone anyone with a family.

Well as someone whose job does not exist anymore and who does not get rent allowance or any of the other benefits, just the basic welfare, I would love that extra €100, and more so I would love to going to work every day again.


I used to earn a lot more than the proposed min wage weekly figure of €286, but right now that figure coupled with not having to say that I am unemployed looks pretty good.

wolfpawnat

godwin wrote: »

Are you posting this from 1982? either that or you need to report your employer for underpaying you.

It is part time. My son's fathers "part time work" was 10 hours a week, so that was €88.00 a week. Depends on how little they are worknig some weeks

Mister men

Gary4279 wrote: »

I think its time this entire country woke up and smelled the heaping pile we have made. Yes WE. There are no innocent people here, just those who are more guilty than others. I really think its time we stopped behaving like spoiled little brats, myself included. No more FF scare mongering or throwing paint over minister no matter how useless they are. We will get an election, if FF are voted in or out we got our say end of.

Now that the IMF are in they will be able to make the bold decisions without caring if they lose face. At least now thing can start to get done. I feel we are going to be feeling the wrath of this for at least another decade, so we better get used to making our own coffee, washing our own car, walking/cycling to work, shopping in Penneys and eating tesco cornflakes.

I for one work part-time in a minimum wage job as I am a full time student. I get around 150 a week if i'm lucky, sometimes thats as little as 70. Although i live with my parents I still pay rent as they cannot afford to support me, pay for my own food, clothes, transport and college bills.And I for one welcome the reduction of minimum wage, sure I'll have to walk to work and college (both over an hour away), wear old clothes and live further within my means but its what has to be done.

I also welcome the hike in reg fees for students, and Ive another 3 years of college ahead of me. Its what has to be done.

I also believe that those on the dole should have their payments cut the longer they are on it. The amount of junkies and lowlifes I see everyday in town/work is pathetic, no other country would stand for it. Sure there may be exceptions if there are kids ect... involved but I think the dole has gotten out of control, its crazy, some of these people sit around all day, get their money and have nicer clothes than me, have a car ect... The welfare should be about getting enough to get by, not fund someone for their life.

My god its a disgrace, perhaps thats why when i was in 6th year alot of the people in my year had a plan to 'go on the labour'. In the 50's the welfare was barely enough to get by, food would have to be bought in bulk, bags of flour to make bread. whats wrong with that, its not like people will starve, we've gotten to comfy in this country. It really annoys me the lazy and selfish attitude that some people have. FFS, we are broke, we cannot afford to live like this, end of.

You live with your parents. Try that minimum wage job with a family,mortgage,utility bills, food bills,transport costs (some people can't walk to work), incoming water and property taxes, need i go on. I agree cuts need to be made but not to people who are barely scapping by as is. Why are'nt the TD's taking a huge cut?

godwin

Mister men wrote: »

You live with your parents. Try that minimum wage job with a family,mortgage,utility bills, food bills,transport costs (some people can't walk to work), incoming water and property taxes, need i go on. I agree cuts need to be made but not to people who are barely scapping by as is. Why are'nt the TD's taking a huge cut?

agreed , I agree with cuts , but it annoys me that all the money cut is going in to propping up failed investments.

ntlbell

wolfpawnat wrote: »

A person on min wage can apply for the above!

Thanks, didn't know that!

Gary4279

Mister men wrote: »

You live with your parents. Try that minimum wage job with a family,mortgage,utility bills, food bills,transport costs (some people can't walk to work), incoming water and property taxes, need i go on. I agree cuts need to be made but not to people who are barely scapping by as is. Why are'nt the TD's taking a huge cut?

Who cannot afford to support me. If i stopped giving my parents money we would be up **** creek.

I also agree, those on higher salaries, TD's and public service workers should also take cuts without bitching and moaning again.

Also, I said there may be exceptions for people with families ect... I was more so talking about the 6% of the workforce who laid around on the dole when jobs were being thrown at people.

Cuts are going to be made no matter who wins the next election, there are no two ways about it. If labor get in in the next election you can be damn sure we will all be F-ing and blinding about them as well.

FF may aswell make the cuts so we can hate them for the next year or so and love the next government until phase 3 of this thing hits home.

wolfpawnat

ntlbell wrote: »

Thanks, didn't know that!

Sure of course no one would work minimum wage otherwise.

A person on min wage can apply for

medical/gp only card
rent allowance
fuel allowance ( I think)
back to school allowance
clothing allowance
family income supplement - this is only for min wage and One Parent families, not JSA or JSB recipients.

dan_d

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Sure of course no one would work minimum wage otherwise.

A person on min wage can apply for

medical/gp only card
rent allowance
fuel allowance ( I think)
back to school allowance
clothing allowance
family income supplement - this is only for min wage and One Parent families, not JSA or JSB recipients.

Seriously?
Now that is ridiculous!!

ntlbell

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Sure of course no one would work minimum wage otherwise.

A person on min wage can apply for

medical/gp only card
rent allowance
fuel allowance ( I think)
back to school allowance
clothing allowance
family income supplement - this is only for min wage and One Parent families, not JSA or JSB recipients.

Wow, I think i might look for a new job.