Paraffin Oil Suppliers in Laois

Dempo1

Hi all,

Just wondered if anyone knows where i can get paraffin Oil, I used to be able to get it in a Garage on the Portlaoise Road, just outside Mountmellick but its been a few years since i needed it.

I have a Paraffin Heater i use in a Green House!

Any help appreciated!:)

jack of all

Paraffin is kerosene and you can get this from any heating oil distributor.

Dempo1

jack of all wrote: »

Paraffin is kerosene and you can get this from any heating oil distributor.

Thanks Jack of all, much appreciated, i always thought Parafinn was slightly different to Kerosene home heating oil. I tried Kerosene this morning and its working fine.

All i need now is a Wick for the heater, as its quite worn, not sure where to get this, I guess specialist hardware stores?

Thanks again:)

An Ri rua

Dempo1 wrote: »

Thanks Jack of all, much appreciated, i always thought Parafinn was slightly different to Kerosene home heating oil. I tried Kerosene this morning and its working fine.

All i need now is a Wick for the heater, as its quite worn, not sure where to get this, I guess specialist hardware stores?

Thanks again:)

Hi guys, paraffin for indoor heaters IS slightly different. You should never use normal kerosene in a stand-alone burner indoors. In a greenhouse is grand dempo1 but not as a room heater. If you're looking for a higher-grade paraffin for room heaters, then look at mcLoughlin Oil up in Newbridge, see www.mcloil.com or you can order it online on Amazon.co.uk also. Or www.dryitout.com

All the best,

ps those contacts will also have wicks

Dempo1

An Ri rua wrote: »

Hi guys, paraffin for indoor heaters IS slightly different. You should never use normal kerosene in a stand-alone burner indoors. In a greenhouse is grand dempo1 but not as a room heater. If you're looking for a higher-grade paraffin for room heaters, then look at mcLoughlin Oil up in Newbridge, see www.mcloil.com or you can order it online on Amazon.co.uk also. Or www.dryitout.com

All the best,

ps those contacts will also have wicks

Really appreciate this updated advice, I know Mc Loughlins in newbridge and will take a trip up during this week!

An Ri rua

No probs Dempo1, glad to help

I recently posted this http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056086261 also so the links there will be useful for seeing who has what. Thinking about getting one of the modern digital heaters myself and therefore the type of paraffin used indoors is paramount. As soon as I do get one, I'll review it on these threads!

Dempo1

An Ri rua wrote: »

No probs Dempo1, glad to help

I recently posted this http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056086261 also so the links there will be useful for seeing who has what. Thinking about getting one of the modern digital heaters myself and therefore the type of paraffin used indoors is paramount. As soon as I do get one, I'll review it on these threads!

Great stuff, i would be keen to get a heater for indoor use, I use a superser as a compliment to central heating (I have a large room as part of an extension with high ceilings) the super ser was great but jesus the cynlinders are now €30 a pop. I reckon the parafinn would be far cheaper to run. Some great heater options on the mc coughlins site, worth a trip me thinks.

I see your following the supermacs in tullamore thread:D

An Ri rua

Yep, watching Spirals to see what happens alright!

Check out this info on Kero burners from the US. Our oils will have different grades but useful info all the same http://www.milesstair.com/kero_fuel_primer.html

An Ri rua

Dempo1, I have just purchased an Inverter 5006 from Tommy @ jhmcloughlins. www.mcloil.com

Serious fog on the way through Ballybrittas & Monasterrevin today. Then like the top of the Alps in Kildare, sun splitting stones, then woeful again in newbridge!

Anyway, got there. Got home. And fired her up! Its early days but.......I think I'm in love

Will keep this thread and the other one I linked to here (re cold student) updated as MCL deserve it; this is a lovely purchase for anyone. Bit noisy perhaps for some but nothing more than a hum (edit: - its even quieter on ECO mode, I had it on melt the paint off the walls mode of 3.2kw). Slight smell of kero etc on first few fire-ups I believe because its also burning off varnish etc internally. No different to commissioning any oil burning stove etc.

ps I have to say that Michael mcLoughlin & his staff are stand-out. I received (and sent) multiple emails to Michael and his duty of care was above and beyond most of what I've EVER come across in Irish SMEs. Tommy in the Newbridge store also extremely easy to deal with. I am glad I followed the trail of 'petrol' heaters when I saw some French dude on here talking about them.

Have a warm time folks !!!

Dempo1

An Ri rua wrote: »

Dempo1, I have just purchased an Inverter 5006 from Tommy @ jhmcloughlins. www.mcloil.com

Serious fog on the way through Ballybrittas & Monasterrevin today. Then like the top of the Alps in Kildare, sun splitting stones, then woeful again in newbridge!

Anyway, got there. Got home. And fired her up! Its early days but.......I think I'm in love

Will keep this thread and the other one I linked to here (re cold student) updated as MCL deserve it; this is a lovely purchase for anyone. Bit noisy perhaps for some but nothing more than a hum (edit: - its even quieter on ECO mode, I had it on melt the paint off the walls mode of 3.2kw). Slight smell of kero etc on first few fire-ups I believe because its also burning off varnish etc internally. No different to commissioning any oil burning stove etc.

ps I have to say that Michael mcLoughlin & his staff are stand-out. I received (and sent) multiple emails to Michael and his duty of care was above and beyond most of what I've EVER come across in Irish SMEs. Tommy in the Newbridge store also extremely easy to deal with. I am glad I followed the trail of 'petrol' heaters when I saw some French dude on here talking about them.

Have a warm time folks !!!

Excellent recommendation, funny how great minds think alike, i was actually in Mc Coughlins earlier in the week and took a quick look around, they have a great variety of Parafin heaters.

I actually have an old Para Glo heater (i actually think MC coughlin originally brought them into the country. Its a fantastic machine and i did an experiment during the week. Some people don't recommend these heaters in doors but in fact they are the primary source of home heating in Japan. I believe some recommend a particular paraffin because its has lower odors (Mc Coughlin also sell this, ROLF i think is the name)

I have a large high ceiling timber framed extension onto a cottage (about 26ft x 14ft), I intend getting a wood burning stove installed but the stainless steel chimney is working out three times the price i paid for the stove. Anyway, i wondered would my Paraffin heater do the job in the meantime. I spend most time in this room and do have central heating however i was trying to avoid having it on too much and spread its use.

Anyway, picked up some Kerosene (quite reasonable), got the heater cleaned up and honest to god, its amazing. On lighting up there is a slight odor but this goes quickly enough. I am amazed at the heat it gives out, basically i put this on in the morning and keep it running in this room throughout the day meaning i can avoid putting on the central heating until this evening. Such is the heat from this heater, it travels up to a loft room upstairs.

But the really amazing thing is the cost of running this unit. I have measure usage over the past week and roughly use a drum a week based on 8 hours usage daily, this equates to an unbelievable €18/20 per week. Prior to using the heater i used a super ser during the day and with prices running at €30 for a tank of gas, it would cost over €60 per week.

My heater is quite old and i reckon i will need to replace next year, i could not recommend these paraffin heaters enough. Yes, as with any open flame devices, some precautions are needed, perhaps a little getting use to the slight odor but its an incredibly efficient and cost effective way to heat open spaces.

The Inverter models are i believe electronic (Non wick, correct me if i am wrong) but i believe they are super heaters, but there are wick models at fantastic prices so worth a visit me thinks! Mine is a wick Jobby and is a 2.76kw Model, one thing that is tricky i believe is changing the wick but i'm good for a few weeks!

Happy days and few bob saved, just in time for the snow and bitter cold last week! I live up the slieve bloom mountains and thank god i had this heater or my main oil tank would have been emptied by now!:D

boatbuilder

I've been looking at some of the larger heaters (for heating my garage workshop) available in America.
Specifically this heater has a 23000 btu output. It would be cheaper to get one shipped from the USA than to buy a "torpedo" type space heater over here.

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100045793

It says to use 1K kerosene.

Anyone know what that equates to over here? 28 sec kerosene or what?

Surely the pre-packed "good quality" paraffin from B+Q etc is always going to be a rip-off because its sold in such small containers ?

In a space heating situation, like heating a 3 car garage, why not use 28 sec stuff?
Those "torpedo" space heaters use 28 sec kero or even diesel!

boatbuilder

I think I've answered my own question, but please comment anyway.

It appears that paraffin is higher quality than kerosene.
Paraffin is the stuff you buy in small containers in b and q. Thats the ideal stuff for indoor heaters.

In American language,
1-K kerosene is the same as Irish paraffin (b&q)-clear as water, British Standard C1
No.1 stove oil is the same as Irish 28 sec kerosene (home heating oil) - yellow, Brisith standard C2

However, the guy at the wick shop says this:

Using clear 1-K kerosene, the wick in a kerosene heater may only have to be "burned dry" once or twice a month, and it was common for wicks to last for several years. When burning red dye #1 stove oil, the wick must be "burned dry" to remove tar deposits once a week or so, and wicks can last for only a season or two, depending on the wick and catalytic converter design. There is no doubt: burning 1-K clear kerosene instead of #1 stove oil in a kerosene heater is more convenient and results in a longer wick life.

So my conclusion is that you can burn normal 28 sec kerosene but you may need to clean or replace the wick more regularly.

Dempo1

boatbuilder wrote: »

I think I've answered my own question, but please comment anyway.

It appears that paraffin is higher quality than kerosene.
Paraffin is the stuff you buy in small containers in b and q. Thats the ideal stuff for indoor heaters.

In American language,
1-K kerosene is the same as Irish paraffin (b&q)-clear as water, British Standard C1
No.1 stove oil is the same as Irish 28 sec kerosene (home heating oil) - yellow, Brisith standard C2

However, the guy at the wick shop says this:

Using clear 1-K kerosene, the wick in a kerosene heater may only have to be "burned dry" once or twice a month, and it was common for wicks to last for several years. When burning red dye #1 stove oil, the wick must be "burned dry" to remove tar deposits once a week or so, and wicks can last for only a season or two, depending on the wick and catalytic converter design. There is no doubt: burning 1-K clear kerosene instead of #1 stove oil in a kerosene heater is more convenient and results in a longer wick life.

So my conclusion is that you can burn normal 28 sec kerosene but you may need to clean or replace the wick more regularly.

I'm unsure if this will help but i took the advice of fellow posters and just went for standard Kerosene (Home heating/red Kerosene), I once thought i could only use paraffin but was directed to kerosene which is in fact a lower grade paraffin. I am using it in a Para Glo Heater for use in a green house and since i reverted to Kerosene i have not looked back, not only is it a heck of allot cheaper but it has no side effects on the wick. You can if you wish purchase Paraffin in 20 Litre drums but its expensive. One draw back is getting accustomed to the slight odor on lighting the heater but this fades as the wick reaches temperature.

Price for 2 x 20 litre drums of Kerosene at Mahons Oil as of 31/12/10 was €33 offering incredible value!

Finally, Mc Loughlins Oils in Newbridge do an amazing range of heaters from €147 - €600 and worth a look.

boatbuilder

Thanks for that. I had a look at Mcloughlins website and they only list a few types of heaters, but for larger output heaters, it gets really expensive.

For example the 4600 watt (15,700 BTU) heater is €786 at Mcloughlins.

In comparison a 6740 watt (23,000 BTU) heater on ebay from America including postage is €200.

Granted the ebay one is not as advanced as McLoughlins and you could get hit with customs of about €70 making the ebay one €270 in total.

Dempo1

boatbuilder wrote: »

Thanks for that. I had a look at McLaughlin's website and they only list a few types of heaters, but for larger output heaters, it gets really expensive.

For example the 4600 watt (15,700 BTU) heater is €786 at McLaughlin's.

In comparison a 6740 watt (23,000 BTU) heater on ebay from America including postage is €200.

Granted the ebay one is not as advanced as Mc Loughlins and you could get hit with customs of about €70 making the ebay one €270 in total.

Jezzz the on line price does seem excellent and for the advanced models. It would seem the concept of these heaters has not caught on in Ireland, In Japan every second household has one. I am amazed at how efficient and cheap to run they are. Do you have a link for the on line model you mentioned?

Just as an aside, you might want to insure wick availability if the model your looking at is a wick model, I had terrible trouble replacing a wick on an old Para Glow model, amazingly i found some in a Euro Nick Nack shop in Tullamore and at a 1/4 of the price quoted by main dealers!

Mc Loughlins seem to be the only suppliers of these heaters on the Irish Market and were in fact the first to bring them here in the 50's!

boatbuilder

Heres the one on ebay.



http://cgi.ebay.ie/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270646613619&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.ie%3A80%2F%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm570%26_nkw%3D270646613619%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

It gets excellent reviews....over 45 reviews on the website for it and it got 4.4 out of 5 overall. reviews here>> http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100045793

boatbuilder

Just thought I'd post an update.

I tried normal 28 sec kerosene in the heater and it doesn't work.... it lights ok but then after a couple of minutes the flame gets lower and lower until it dies.

So...looks like I'll have to use the expensive stuff.

Dempo1

boatbuilder wrote: »

Just thought I'd post an update.

I tried normal 28 sec kerosene in the heater and it doesn't work.... it lights ok but then after a couple of minutes the flame gets lower and lower until it dies.

So...looks like I'll have to use the expensive stuff.

Hmmm, sounds a little odd, does your heater have a wick or is it electronic? if it has a wick, the issue your referring to is a need for a wick replacement. I am and have been using red kero (standard home heating variety) for the past year and no problems. I did encounter the issue you refer too and it was the wick.

boatbuilder

Yes the heater has a big circular wick...heater is brand new.

I emailed the fella in American who owns the wick shop and he said that it could be water contamination in the fuel.....it gets trapped in the bottom section of the wick and stops the capillary action. He said to clean out the tank, take the wick out, wash and dry it thoroughly, then try again. Water can be removed from kerosene by putting it through a chamois leather cloth and you can add a few drops of alcohol to the kerosene to absorb any remaining moisture.

yakyak

Just to comment, there is a company selling these parafin/kerosene heaters in Ireland, the 22,300 btu (6.5 kw) version for €220 - €250 delivered nationwide !!

I use Parafin in mine (C-1) and have used regular kerosene aswell. The slight smell does come on at start up and shut down but once the unit is fully fired up, there is no odour at all. Common sense should prevail, do not leave them unnatended and never operate in a confined space with no ventilation. No brainer. The website for the heater is www.heaterking.com

The model i got is the USA version and operates via infrared burner and burns for 10 hours a day on 7 litres, not bad.

yakyak

boatbuilder wrote: »

Just thought I'd post an update.

I tried normal 28 sec kerosene in the heater and it doesn't work.... it lights ok but then after a couple of minutes the flame gets lower and lower until it dies.

So...looks like I'll have to use the expensive stuff.

You need to replace the wick, there is a tar/carbon build up on the top of the wick and since the wicks are pre set, you cannot just cut the top of them off and relight. You can try scraping off the carbon, but i had this issue before and just replaced the wick for €20 and job done. www.heaterking.com based in ireland, carry the wicks.

yakyak

boatbuilder wrote: »

Thanks for that. I had a look at Mcloughlins website and they only list a few types of heaters, but for larger output heaters, it gets really expensive.

For example the 4600 watt (15,700 BTU) heater is €786 at Mcloughlins.

In comparison a 6740 watt (23,000 BTU) heater on ebay from America including postage is €200.

Granted the ebay one is not as advanced as McLoughlins and you could get hit with customs of about €70 making the ebay one €270 in total.

www.heaterking.com in ireland selling parafin / kerosene heater delivered for €220, they also supply the spare wicks.

An Ri rua

yakyak wrote: »

Just to comment, there is a company selling these parafin/kerosene heaters in Ireland, the 22,300 btu (6.5 kw) version for €220 - €250 delivered nationwide !!

I use Parafin in mine (C-1) and have used regular kerosene aswell. The slight smell does come on at start up and shut down but once the unit is fully fired up, there is no odour at all. Common sense should prevail, do not leave them unnatended and never operate in a confined space with no ventilation. No brainer. The website for the heater is www.heaterking.com

The model i got is the USA version and operates via infrared burner and burns for 10 hours a day on 7 litres, not bad.

Appreciate the info. Nice to know that its now being stocked in Galway but you really need to improve on your shilling skills yakyak ! Don't deny it Lesson learned eh? Shilling is a professional game.

ps I would recommend that type of heater to anyone. Nice machine. I have an Inverter 5006, great machine but DOES need electricity unlike your baby. Kudos on importing them. Well done.

holidays1805

Hi,

I know this thread is one year old but I presume there are still people using this paraffin heater.
I was wondering if with the Inverter 5006 (or a similar model without wick )we only have to use the paraffin ROFL like the one in McLoughins or can it be replaced by something else for indoor?

Thank you

An Ri rua

holidays1805 wrote: »

Hi,

I know this thread is one year old but I presume there are still people using this paraffin heater.
I was wondering if with the Inverter 5006 (or a similar model without wick )we only have to use the paraffin ROFL like the one in McLoughins or can it be replaced by something else for indoor?

Thank you

Hi, yes I'm sitting enjoying the heat from my Inverter 5006 right now I would not be without it. I use it alongside low to mid-level storage heat.

I would not recommend using anything other than Tozane / ROLF etc as supplied by McLoughlins. Their prices have gone up over the last 2 years (alongside oil rises) but they're still the cheapest for it.
Have you an inverter? I saw one for sale in Laois with one season on it. But its the same price as a new model?? If they're well looked after, they're a secondhand bargain though.
Check Donedeal for comparitive prices and ads. I saw a Cork advertiser spoofing re prices for fuel. Nonsensical, unless they were wearing gloves while typing the ad....

Stay warm !!

ps Dempo1 here on Boards uses normal kero in a wick paraffin heater. But I wouldn't in an inverter; primarily because of the electronics, less because of the fumes.

pompui

An Ri rua wrote: »

Hi, yes I'm sitting enjoying the heat from my Inverter 5006 right now I would not be without it. I use it alongside low to mid-level storage heat.

I would not recommend using anything other than Tozane / ROLF etc as supplied by McLoughlins. Their prices have gone up over the last 2 years (alongside oil rises) but they're still the cheapest for it.
Have you an inverter? I saw one for sale in Laois with one season it. But its the same price as a new model?? If they're well looked after, they're a secondhand bargain though.
Check Donedeal for comparitive prices and ads. I saw a Cork advertiser spoofing re prices for fuel. Nonsensical, unless they were wearing gloves while typing the ad....

Stay warm !!

ps Dempo1 here on Boards uses normal kero in a wick paraffin heater. But I wouldn't in an inverter; primarily because of the electronics, less because of the fumes.

I have 2 of these heaters and I use a mix of 2 parts Tozane / ROLF and 1 part kerosene. I treat the normal kerosene with a additive called Dipetane which can be bought in most motor factors and filter the kero with a special funnel called mr funnel which will filter out any water or dirt that may be in the kerosene been doing this for the last 2 years with out any problems

holidays1805

Hi,

Thank you for your answer and for the information.

I didn't buy the inverter yet .I saw some paraffin heaters like the inverter for 225 on ebay.

It looks like the 2 most famous brands are Inverter and Zibro .

I would love one of them but I have to convince somebody in the house we won't dye by using this kind of heating

pompui

These like any other combustible heater you need ventilation in the room let a bit of fresh air in ever now and then. There are not like the old style wick heaters these have built in safety devices and are 1 of the main sources of heating in Japan and are widely used in France and Italy.
They all do basically the same thing and are either made in Japan or China and are rebranded with different names
See link http://www.essege.com/D/D2/poeleelectro/poeleelectro.html

johneym

Boatbuilder, is your heater dtill going good? I am thinking of getting one. How do you find it now? How big of an area can it heat? Thanks a lot for the feedback.

An Ri rua

johneym wrote: »

Boatbuilder, is your heater dtill going good? I am thinking of getting one. How do you find it now? How big of an area can it heat? Thanks a lot for the feedback.

Apologies Mods, old thread. Have PM'd this also to Johneym. But might as well post it here if it helps others?

Hey Johneym,

hope you're keeping well.

I saw your posts in the Laois forum to Boatbuilder. I tracked your posts to the Stove forum but those guys aren't bothered answering you because its offthread to their focus but also possibly because the link doesn't work.

I wouldn't be too worried by a Kerona brand at all. I run an Inverter. It is wickless. And because of that, it will burn 28 sec kero (what goes in your burner) whereas a wick one won't handle it as well. A the wick will take in the moisture. Direct injection copes better.

have a good read of this website Johney electricheatingcosts.com/class-c1-paraffin/

And get yourself a good hi-tech heater like an Inverter or a Zibro. Keep your eye out for as new/secondhand on Donedeal or Adverts from some clueless soft types who don't like the smell or whatever (there is (as good as) no smell in operation, only on startup and shutdown).

-Get yourself a special little funnel called MR Funnel for about e20 on ebay or online. This is because unpackaged kero / paraffin does take in small amounts of water when stored in metal tanks. So if you're burning normal kero, either strain it through a Mr Funnel or some say (Boatbuilder in that Laois thread) a chamois cloth.

Try and see if you can spot yourself a bargain in late Spring. If you buy new from shedsdirect or from McLoughlins in Newbridge (http://www.mcldirect.com/heaters-s/1820.htm) you will have a warranty so don't void that by burning kero. Burn Tozane /Rolf and buy that in the 20L drums from Sheds direct. About a fiver extra delivered by courier.

If you buy secondhand, burn a mix of kero and Tozane. So 3/4 cheap kero and 1/4 Tozane and like some lads say, a few drops of Dipetane (motor factors) to help it burn cleanly.

Hope that is of help to you. Get stuck into that electricheating website. Then read the reviews for Inverters on www.dry-it-out.com

Oh, and even though most of the units have a CO detector built in. BUY YOURSELF A STANDALONE just to be sure.

Stay warm.

johneym

An Ri,

wow, many thanks for the detailed post. I have found an inverter 3001 with 1 season use in very good nick for €100 on ebay!! has not arrived yet. I am also thinking of getting a wick one for shed and an old house I am renovating which has no electricity.
Thanks for the tip about the Kerona model. Thing is, I have tracked this to china where they cost only a few dollars. This is not the usa and canada version. Its also not 6.5 kw, as quoted.
Anyway, I might just take a chance anyway.
I will be reading that liked site now.

Thanks a lot,

John

sdm

Interesting that there are still a few paraffin people out there. I always liked them and the ROLF C1 paraffin is a must to use. Less sulphur and little or no fumes. So I awaiting delivery of a Dyna-Glo RMC-95C6B Indoor Kerosene Convection Heater, 23000 BTU which I will use for my attic studio. If anyone is interested I will post a review of it when it's lit up and throwing out the heat.

For 180€ delivered and 30€ for ROLF oil (Newbridge) it is a damn sight cheaper than plumbing the attic for radiators or installing a stove with the flues etc. So thats my tuppence worth.