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Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital

  • 20-11-2010 11:13am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48


    Has anyone got any bad experiences to report, on any visits to Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital? About the service they got, or did,nt get. A family member of mine went up to see a Surgeon during the week, at 3.00pm, and at 11.00pm that night, was still not seen. She eventually gave up and came home, so did a lot of other people. The staff were no help either. Do we have to suffer this round the clock waiting, if we,r paying big money for private healthcare?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭southlouth type


    My experience and that of many others is that the staff in the lourdes are top notch .They have to work in the hardest circumstances in the country bar none and cant be blamed for whats going on up there . Its a shame that people have to travel from Dundalk and elsewhere to attend a hospital that just isnt functioning properly .Mary harney has alot to answer for not the staff in the lourdes imo .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    I have just been in the A and E a few times with broken bones.... Staff are top notch, new A and E is good too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭10green bottles


    Smokecloak wrote: »
    Has anyone got any bad experiences to report, on any visits to Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital? About the service they got, or did,nt get. A family member of mine went up to see a Surgeon during the week, at 3.00pm, and at 11.00pm that night, was still not seen. She eventually gave up and came home, so did a lot of other people. The staff were no help either. Do we have to suffer this round the clock waiting, if we,r paying big money for private healthcare?

    You might find this article from this weeks Dundalk Democrat interesting:

    http://www.dundalkdemocrat.ie/dundalknews/Dundalk-woman39s-hospital-campaign.6628358.jp


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,126 ✭✭✭✭calex71


    You might find this article from this weeks Dundalk Democrat interesting:

    http://www.dundalkdemocrat.ie/dundalknews/Dundalk-woman39s-hospital-campaign.6628358.jp

    Bad and all as this is the shocking thing is there are worse stories than this to be told and with the way things are now it will only get worse :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭The Valley


    I have used this hospital several times, only this week i have been up with my son and I have to say the service is top notch, A and E is new.

    I have been back for follow ups and i have not been waiting more than 1 hour before being seen.

    I will say there are plenty of drunks about, maybe if we can deal with these the overall service might be improved for everybody


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    My brother had to go in a few times over the years with Kidney stones.

    The first time though, the hospital was so annoying. He had started to feel pains in America when we were on holidays and the docs over there said it was most likely kidney stones. We get back home and the pain gets worse one night so we go to A&E. We tell them what the American docs say and they laugh it off, saying its probably just constipation. My brother is absolulty screaming in agony and they just keep going constipation, constipation. Eventually, we convince them to get an x-ray done, and low and behold, it's kidney stones...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 Smokecloak


    Yes, theres good points and bad in everything. But the biggest complaint most people make is the long wait to see someone. Waiting is bad enough anywhere when you are in top notch health, but when you,r sick and at low ebb, an hour can feel a long time. Nobody minds waiting a reasonable time, but 6 or 12 hours is insane. Maybe we should take sleeping bags with us, and a flask. I,m sure its the same everywhere now. This thing of people on trollys everywhere is a recent thing. Does it mean that more people are getting sick now, than ever before? Is it the bigger population, or a shortage of doctors. Or a shortage of money. Can,t see things improving for a long time, a very long time. Any comments?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    we are very lucky to have a hospital so close to us , imagine driving from cavan or monaghan all the way to drogheda in pain:eek: i know the louth county hospital should be open but thats another topic.... its not the staffs fault , they do their best, imagine waking up each morning knowing you are facing in to working in those conditions again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    My father spent the last year of his life visiting the Lourdes hospital due to terminal cancer and never had a bad word to say about it, the staff and consultants were always very nice and helpful.

    This is compared to Navan where he went for an initial scan before he knew what was wrong, was told he had the all clear from cancer, only to be told 6 months later in Dublin that there is no way the scan could have been clear as he had cancer throughout his entire body.

    As an added insult we received a letter from Navan shortly after he passed away stating that they were fully confident in the results given from the scan.

    So while Drogheda might be understaffed and lacking capacity, at the very least it has nice staff that know what they are doing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 Smokecloak


    Thats scary about the scan. The least you expect is to get told exactly whats wrong with you, even if they can,t do anything about it. Good staff make all the difference. Daisy Hill is nearer to Dundalk. Any thoughts on that?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭southlouth type


    Smokecloak wrote: »
    Thats scary about the scan. The least you expect is to get told exactly whats wrong with you, even if they can,t do anything about it. Good staff make all the difference. Daisy Hill is nearer to Dundalk. Any thoughts on that?

    But you can only use daisy hill for certain things as far as i know .They cant do certain procedures on medical cards from the south so people will have to use Droghedas hospital at some stage ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 Smokecloak


    Yes, I guess the medical card would,nt cover much in Daisy Hill, but anyone with private healthcare has full cover. And thats a lot of people. Be intresting to know how many people in Dundalk and north Louth on private healthcare use Daisy Hill!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Rather than start a another similar thread, I thought it best just to throw this in here.

    Have a brother that is brain damaged and epileptic, lives in a private home that has care there full time.
    He took sick last night (long story, intestines problematic amid other things).
    Rang for a ambulance (which is five minutes away if you drove) at 8.45pm
    ...It turned up just before 11 - and he WAS in a bad way (still is)
    (By the way, it was also counted that there was yesterday in the corridors of casualty, 56 on trolly's alone, never mind in beds.)
    His intestines is blocked since Sunday, gave him TWO enema's and some drugs - then sent him home with nothing solved whatsoever.
    He's now at home in extreme pain and discomfort!

    The health system in this country (especially Drogheda) is fcuked!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Biggins wrote: »
    Rather than start a another similar thread, I thought it best just to throw this in here.

    Have a brother that is brain damaged and epileptic, lives in a private home that has care there full time.
    He took sick last night (long story, intestines problematic amid other things).
    Rang for a ambulance (which is five minutes away if you drove) at 8.45pm
    ...It turned up just before 11 - and he WAS in a bad way (still is)
    (By the way, it was also counted that there was yesterday in the corridors of casualty, 56 on trolly's alone, never mind in beds.)
    His intestines is blocked since Sunday, gave him TWO enema's and some drugs - then sent him home with nothing solved whatsoever.
    He's now at home in extreme pain and discomfort!

    The health system in this country (especially Drogheda) is fcuked!

    How is it "especially Drogheda" exactly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    Having had a family member on a trolley in a corridor from Sunday to Thursday Biggins, I can relate. Third world standards doesn't even begin to cover it. They closed the Louth as we'd all get better care in a central location? My arse! If I ever fall ill, I'm getting a lift north and calling 999 from there.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    amacachi wrote: »
    How is it "especially Drogheda" exactly?

    I know of many cases that have not been reported in the media where they have screwed up BIG time and where delays/mistakes have lead to possible deaths and certain some further consequential sad results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭PinkFly


    I know its only minor compared to what people had to go through with the Lourdes, but my son was referred to get a small operation done on his nose by my GP to the hospital. I had to ring 6months after the referral to see if they got my GPs letter and any sign of my appointment to which the worker laughed and told me it would be 18 months before I would get a first visit and would she take my name off the list as it would be 'much quicker to go private.' :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
    I replied by telling her I didn't have the money to go private hence me calling!!

    So two weeks ago I called again as I hadn't heard in ages, wasn't quite sure how long it had been. Anyways I was again told that I had to wait 18 months for an appointment and I asked how long he was on the list, he has been there since 2008 :eek: She changed her cool attitude and said they were actually giving appointments 'in and around his date'!! So two days later I get an appointment in the door.

    It makes you wonder, how long I would have been waiting if I hadn't of rang? How many people are falling through the net of even more serious case than mine? And I wonder how long you would be waiting if you knew the people dishing out appointments!!

    All in all I never have a pleasant experience with regards the Lourdes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Biggins wrote: »
    I know of many cases that have not been reported in the media where they have screwed up BIG time and where delays/mistakes have lead to possible deaths and certain some further consequential sad results.

    I'm just wondering how it's Drogheda that's especially ****ed when people in Dundalk only have the same hospital half an hour away to rely on. Drogheda's not doing too badly compared to one place I've already mentioned.

    Also paramedics are *snip*. I forgot they basically just need a first aid course to "qualify", then they didn't notice my dad having a heart attack. I remembered how *snip* they are right there and then. And we were half an hour away from Drogheda. "Especially Drogheda" indeed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭Nesta99


    amacachi wrote: »
    they basically just need a first aid course to "qualify"

    That it is just not true! They are fully qualified paramedics and that is the HSE/HPC minimum. They were EMTs in the past and were phased out or upgraded. I am very sorry about your dad, but i am surprised that an AED wouldnt have been used and would have picked up an irregular trace.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    had our own emergency yesterday, could not fault the lourdes hospital one bit... thanks to everyone there, ds just home


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    whelan1 wrote: »
    had our own emergency yesterday, could not fault the lourdes hospital one bit... thanks to everyone there, ds just home

    Hope you're well and a quick recovery to you. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    thanks, was my son that was sick, kept in overnight... great staff! results came back really quick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 Smokecloak


    Since I made my first post on Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital on 5,11,2010,giving out on the state of things, from what I was told by other family members, I can now say now say what I think. Last March,(2011) at this exact week, I was taken ill, all of a sudden with serious lung trouble. I was admitted from the house by my own doctor. I was that bad I could,nt wait to get to the hospital from Dundalk. Anyway, I arrived at 1pm on a monday, and was taken right in, where a team started work on me right away. I won,t go into what had to be done, it took a lot of work by a lot of people. I was there for 2 weeks, and the care I got from the doctors and nursing staff was second to none. I can,t say enough good things about them all. I wondered why anyone would say anything bad about this hospital. I think all the doctors and nurses and staff there are top class. They do a great job, under difficult conditions. If they did,nt do a great job, I probably would,nt around to write this now.....:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Shoe Lover


    I have to say that anytime I have been to the Lourdes the staff have been lovely. Yes, the wait is long particularly if you are waiting for a "routine" appointment, but that is not the fault of the staff on the ground. It is not their fault that the government keeps closing more and more services in the surrounding areas and sending them to the Lourdes. The hospital was never built to service four counties. As a previous poster mentioned, be glad that we do not need come from Cavan or Monaghan when we are in need!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭southlouth type


    amacachi wrote: »
    I'm just wondering how it's Drogheda that's especially ****ed when people in Dundalk only have the same hospital half an hour away to rely on. Drogheda's not doing too badly compared to one place I've already mentioned.

    Also paramedics are *snip*. I forgot they basically just need a first aid course to "qualify", then they didn't notice my dad having a heart attack. I remembered how *snip* they are right there and then. And we were half an hour away from Drogheda. "Especially Drogheda" indeed.

    Forgive me if i am wrong but i think he means " Drogheda Hospital " i.e the one we all have to use from louth , meath , cavan and monaghan and that conditions in Drogheda are very bad in comparison to some other areas of the country .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Forgive me if i am wrong but i think he means " Drogheda Hospital " i.e the one we all have to use from louth , meath , cavan and monaghan and that conditions in Drogheda are very bad in comparison to some other areas of the country .

    He may well agree with that get-out-of-jail-free card you've just suggested but if he did he would've said so before now. He was just soapboxing like usual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭peewee_44


    I had my baby there and all my appointments there and tbh I cannot fault them they were brillaint


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭Wizard01


    Worst hospital i have ever been in!! So bad I refuse to go back to it!!
    After my son was born, no one noticed he was born with MAJOR problem's, I noticed it myself hours after my section even though the midwife was feeding him during the day. He had to be rushed to intensive care and Crumlin Children's Hospital for major surgery.
    On a weekend went to DOC and he was sent back to Drogheda when he was a few month's old with a "supposed" infection after an operation in Crumlin, won't go into his problems on this, he was weighed at 12lbs and kept in, after 3 days one nurse noticed they had been giving him antibiotics for a 12kg baby!!! lots of tests followed, problems with kidneys since.
    Next day nurse came in to give medication and asked how was Daniel doing today, my son's name is not DANIEL!!!!!
    Best joke was he didn't even have an infection, it was normal after the surgery he received in Crumlin.
    Have never attended it since, we drive the 2 hours to Crumlin than the 40 minutes to Drogheda. My son's life is more important than the journey.
    Could go into a lot more that has happened, could even write a book on it but best advice is, NEVER leave your children or anyone elderly unattended, stay with them to ensure they receive the correct care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭southlouth type


    Wizard01 wrote: »
    Worst hospital i have ever been in!! So bad I refuse to go back to it!!
    After my son was born, no one noticed he was born with MAJOR problem's, I noticed it myself hours after my section even though the midwife was feeding him during the day. He had to be rushed to intensive care and Crumlin Children's Hospital for major surgery.
    On a weekend went to DOC and he was sent back to Drogheda when he was a few month's old with a "supposed" infection after an operation in Crumlin, won't go into his problems on this, he was weighed at 12lbs and kept in, after 3 days one nurse noticed they had been giving him antibiotics for a 12kg baby!!! lots of tests followed, problems with kidneys since.
    Next day nurse came in to give medication and asked how was Daniel doing today, my son's name is not DANIEL!!!!!
    Best joke was he didn't even have an infection, it was normal after the surgery he received in Crumlin.
    Have never attended it since, we drive the 2 hours to Crumlin than the 40 minutes to Drogheda. My son's life is more important than the journey.
    Could go into a lot more that has happened, could even write a book on it but best advice is, NEVER leave your children or anyone elderly unattended, stay with them to ensure they receive the correct care.


    Really sorry to hear that . But like anything in life some of us have good experiences and some of us have bad ones , i personally have had both in this hospital . IMO its down to the lack of money , staff and the total overcrowding of the place . Hope your son is doing well now .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭Nesta99


    Really sorry to hear that . But like anything in life some of us have good experiences and some of us have bad ones , i personally have had both in this hospital . IMO its down to the lack of money , staff and the total overcrowding of the place . Hope your son is doing well now .

    In fairness to make a mistake of confusing kg to lbs is just incredible...its life threatening!! OP dont stick to complaining here - get on to the hospital admin, DoH, childrens ombudsman, newspapers and everyone else possible otherwise such incompetance will kill some unfortunate.

    I wouldnt worry about using the wrong name too much as long as they are working with the correct chats and records.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Not denying the point raised but no hospital has weighed anybody or anything in lbs for years - it's all Kgs. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭Nesta99


    Yup! But i still weigh a fat 10'5:(
    most children it seems to be born is xlb y.oz

    I hate the conversions!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Nesta99 wrote: »
    Yup! But i still weigh a fat 10'5:(
    most children it seems to be born is xlb y.oz

    :confused:

    No midwife weighs babies in lbs & ozs any more!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭Wizard01


    :confused:

    No midwife weighs babies in lbs & ozs any more!!

    My health nurse, hospital nurses and doctor all weigh in lbs and ozs, he only got weighed this week at hospital, he is 4 stone 3 ozs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭Wizard01


    Nesta99 wrote: »
    I wouldnt worry about using the wrong name too much as long as they are working with the correct chats and records.

    Nope, it was the other child's medication she has come to administer to my son, when I told her my wee man's name, she quickly scarpered from the room!!

    The head nurse was called as I really hit the roof at that stage, it was just one fiasco after another to be honest, never again if I can help it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 passenger555


    Went yesterday to our lady of lourdes hospital for the 1st time. We had an appointment for our 12 week scan for our second child. My girlfriend had her heart set on the mlu. Apart feom having to wait about 2 hours after our appointmet time once in we were being seen by a lovely girl who is being trained as a midwife. At one stage she used her initiative and made a call to the mlu to see if she could clarify a doubt (her trainer was busy seeing other patients) and she did clarify this doubt. Once she was done a fully trained midwife came in whilst we were still discussing the issue to do with our elegibity to go into the mlu or not. The trainee began to explain, only began and the midwifey literally started barking and i mean barking NO NO NO NO NO, she cant go to the mlu, you are excluded etc etc at the same time she reprimanded (in frot of us which is extremely unporffesional) the trainee. Eventually the trainer midwife came in. At this stage my girlfriend was very upset at the way she had been spoken to and at the way the trainee had been spoken to, as well as not being able to use the mlu services, she told the trainer this and expressed how disgusted she felt by the rudeness of the first midwife. I still tried to reason with the midwifes, but all along i felt we wernt being listen to and i felt that they couldnt wait for us to get out of the room to go through the trainee. Btw the only person in that hospital that created a rapport with us was precisely the trainee and she gave us tones of info and set our worries at ease. So we left that unit fully disgusted to go to get our scan done. With the lady doing the scan we mentioned we would like her to measure the nuachal fold and she said this wasnt done in drogheda we would have to go private or something, i then qualified stating that in our first child it was measured and we were found to be high risk of a chromosomal disorder (this was in the uk), she then went on without thinking about it twice to try and give me a lecture on irish abortion law, i interrupted her mid sentence and just bluntly said " nobody has talked about abortion here", how darw she imply that we would terminate the pregnancy!!! We want to know!! We dont want an opinion we want the info that is all!! She then went on to do scan and point out how cute a hand was or a leg and didnt actually give us any medicaly relevant info. Pathetic!! We have had one child and early pregnancy was dealt with in the uk and late/birth in spain. Never have we been so offended and never has so much info been kept from us! The backwards ways of this hospital are a disgrace to Ireland and i can only hope for 2 things, first that the trainee didnt get it on the neck too much (i will write a letter of praise for her) and that when we get the transfer to another hospital the treat us ss if we are actually living in 2012.


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