Who are going to be hit hardest?

Voltex

So the Goverment wont be able to write a cheque for ditto without approval from the IMF...but who do you think will be affected most?

TBH I would think it will be anyone in the PS/CS and those living on social welfare.
What do you think?

sollar

With the new property tax and water charges i think anyone struggling with their home repayments will be hardest hit imo

Inquitus

Its middle income families who always get shafted hardest.

thetonynator

I think that high private sector earners ( over 100k) will lose a lot, obviously not into poverty but in terms of how much they will lose . . ., all public sector workers, and those on social welfare without families.

The elderly wont be hit hard despite the state pension never having been cut as the budget wont pass, income tax can only go so high so the private sector won't be too badly hit by the government ( although they might have private wage cuts) , and of course politicians salaries will probably rise . . .:rolleyes:

fergiesfav

The way I feel is that the people who work hard should get hit the easiest. People sitting around getting easy money for doing no work should be hit the hardest

Bob_Latchford

Social welfare & Home owners, imo

KindOfIrish

Middle income families and middle class generally. No question about it.

My name is URL

We'll all be hit hard but 'hard' is subjective.. I reckon those who are genuinely reliant on welfare payments (whose number will increase because of the cuts). The spongers will either adapt to having less or find another source, but the people who do struggle at the minute are going to feel it most.

chucken1

fergiesfav wrote: »

The way I feel is that the people who work hard should get hit the easiest. People sitting around getting easy money for doing no work should be hit the hardest

Of course! Because they ALL chose to lose their jobs..everyone of them!!

mossyc123

A bit off-topic but just wondering have any of the following suffered pay cuts:

-CIE employees (Irish Rail, Bus Eireann, Dublin Bus, etc)

-ESB/Bord Gais employees

Have the subsidised Semi-States been hit yet?

DoBhrionn

We we all get hit with the budget, no doubt about that! But the hardest punch thrown will be to middle and low income families, those who are high earning might only be affected slightly, the again, they might not.

namloc1980

The easiest target of them all.....middle income PAYE workers.

karlth

In Iceland the groups hit hardest were anyone making a living from the property industry (builders, architects, etc), people in the financial industry and sellers of luxury goods.

A left - center government took over half a year after the crisis started and they defended the people with the lowest income so there was a sharp drop in income disparity. Taxes increased for the wealthiest 10% and the middle classes slightly.

Of course Iceland has its own currency (for better and for worse) unlike Ireland so it might differ here.

thetonynator

karlth wrote: »

In Iceland the groups hit hardest were anyone making a living from the property industry (builders, architects, etc), people in the financial industry and sellers of luxury goods.

A left - center government took over half a year after the crisis started and they defended the people with the lowest income so there was a sharp drop in income disparity. Taxes increased for the wealthiest 10% and the middle classes slightly.

Of course Iceland has its own currency (for better and for worse) unlike Ireland so it might differ here.

in ireland it doesnt work like that because that would be fair. So instead the rich who got us into this mess get off scot free.

And your own currency is definately for better - at least ye get to decide your own interest rates and devalue your currency if ye feel like it.

Cheap Thrills!

KindOfIrish wrote: »

Middle income families and middle class generally. No question about it.

Definitely. How ironic that FF created and cultivated the new middle class and now they are annihilating them.

grizzly

By how much will harsh cuts stifle recovery? Are we facing a lost decade in terms of growth?

may2001

mossyc123 wrote: »

A bit off-topic but just wondering have any of the following suffered pay cuts:

-CIE employees (Irish Rail, Bus Eireann, Dublin Bus, etc)

-ESB/Bord Gais employees

Have the subsidised Semi-States been hit yet?

I believe that ESB employees have been receiving pay increases whilst the rest of us have been suffering.

Absurdum

may2001 wrote: »

I believe that ESB employees have been receiving pay increases whilst the rest of us have been suffering.

They have agreed to a three year pay freeze, despite being efficient and profitable. They also give back subsidies to the tune of hundreds of millions of euros to the government every year whilst being strangled by the CER who want to give the market away to private companies.

WEST

may2001 wrote: »

I believe that ESB employees have been receiving pay increases whilst the rest of us have been suffering.

That is incorrect, ESB are on a pay freeze at the moment.

Laminations

Who will be hit the hardest?

I'll answer as if I was playing cluedo

A FFer, in the face, with my fist.

Remember this when they call to your door. Yes of course, we are where we are, and 'moving forward' we need to concentrate on solutions but the fact that all this has happened and there are still people who will try and get you to vote FF is astonishing.

Politicians should be hit hardest with massive political reform.
However I think it'll be:
PS workers
Dole recipients
Middle income tax payers

And there is an overlap between the first and last of those groups.

irishh_bob

while most of the focus will be on pay cuts , wellfare reductions and tax increases , thier needs to be a sharp reform of various ringfenced and protected sectors like GP,s , the GP in my local surgery had the arrogance to actually put up his prices in the past eighteen months , its common knowledge that doctors in ireland believe they are entitled to great wealth , unfortunatley for them , the impending redcution of wealth among the popolouce will mean patients simply wont be able to afford to attend thier local surgery as often but allowing change to happen organically is not enough , we need to deregulate the whole area of GP surgers , we dont have half enough GP,s , hence the exorbenent prices they charge , it has been often said that while GP,s work in the private sector , they have public sector priveledge , many sacred cows need to be slayed in the next few years and sectional intersts like theese overpaid elites are another one