99euro NetBook Arnotts

Elliee

http://www.arnotts.ie/Product/Otic-Net-Book-Perfect-For-First-Time-Net-Users/308775/400200990
Ive no idea what its like but might interest someone.

MunsterCycling

The Box it comes in would be more powerful.

Dan_Solo

Operating System Windows CE 5.0

That'd be a no then.
There really should be a new name invented for these sub-netbook quality thingies. For now the word junk will suffice!

Cionád

the groutch

about as much use as this

RedXIV

That really shouldn't be used as anything other than a calculator......

strife

Iv an electric toothbrush with more processing power, that thing is a battery powered paper weight!

Nerin

Ah balls. I got all excited even though i knew... Need a cheap netbook.

neacy69

absolute rubbish....a PAYG phone for the price can do a lot more!


edit: make that for for less than that price!
https://store.meteor.ie/phones/samsung_europa/#what-you-get-tab

fdevine

Don't bother......especially if you have any aspirations to view Flash on it.

These 7" netbooks are churned out by factories in China. Some, like this one, have Windows 5CE embedded on them. This makes changing the OS quite difficult.

I would imagine that you could pick one of these up on eBay for €50 or so, especially with WinCE5 on it.......if you have money to waste then fire away.

Soarer

Dan_Solo wrote: »

That'd be a no then.
There really should be a new name invented for these sub-netbook quality thingies. For now the word junk will suffice!

Sh1tbooks.

Kinetic^

RedXIV wrote: »

That really shouldn't be used as anything other than a calculator......

I'd say my casio has more power then it!

Saruman

In fairness though, it is a netbook in the strictest definition because it pretty much can only surf the web.

oneweb

My Cray Jaguar would have more power than that!

Wolfe Tone

So crap that even with linux it would fail?

fdevine

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

So crap that even with linux it would fail?

With Linux on it at least you could view Flash based websites.

I've been trying to find advice on flashing a Netbook similar to this for ages. The BIOS will not allow booting from external storage so changing the OS is not as easy as it could be. It has to be flashed onto the NAND drive and you need a ROM that is specific to the processor.

Badgermonkey

Ah, I see you've discovered the Notbook.

donmeister

Arnotts would have to give me €99 to use it, and even then I'd be hesitant!

acquiescefc

Should be called a Notbook

redalan

Is it really that bad, even for the folks who are not tech savvy but first time users?

Gurgle

fdevine wrote: »

With Linux on it at least you could view Flash based websites.

With Linux on it you could do quite a lot, and €99 is a good price for the components in there.

Windows CE? Why?

fdevine

My 8 year old got it as a present so I'm not too bothered.

With any flavour of Linux on it at least it would be usable. The problem is getting Linux onto the damned thing.

With WinCE5 it's close to useless and it's far from easy to improve.

Why WinCE5? Because these generic 7" paperweights are churned out of Chinese factories who simply pop in chips with the OS embedded on them already.

Some of the newer ones have WinCE6, not that that's much better.

crawler

Why go for this?

You can get an Android tablet with android 2.1 etc etc for about the same or a wee bit more at www.lightinthebox.com/wholesale-Laptops--Notebooks_c1386 and they deliver to Ireland....

Alanstrainor

redalan wrote: »

Is it really that bad, even for the folks who are not tech savvy but first time users?

It is really as bad as people have described it. It is NOT a netbook. It's a pda with a keyboard. And for 99 quid it is a complete rip off. You'd buy a second hand real netbook for that much.

AlmightyCushion

Saruman wrote: »

In fairness though, it is a netbook in the strictest definition because it pretty much can only surf the web.

It can browse the internet but it would do it terribly.

angelll

So would it do an eight year old? I don't want him to have a phone yet...

beaniebarbeque

They had these for 59 euro some months ago. Still not cheap enough to tempt me, but better than 99 quid

Dan_Solo

Soarer wrote: »

Sh1tbooks.

I like craptop myself, though that tends to refer to a laptop that has seen better days rather than one designed and built to be dire from the off.

fdevine

angelll wrote: »

So would it do an eight year old? I don't want him to have a phone yet...

Not if your eight year old is anything like my eight year old.

No Flash support means no Club Penguin, amongst other sites.

HxGH

How did they expect anyone to pay €229.00 originally?! :pac:

babo9

128MB Storage

Loooooool, I could fit more in my pocket

Adyx

Alanstrainor wrote: »

It is really as bad as people have described it. It is NOT a netbook. It's a pda with a keyboard. And for 99 quid it is a complete rip off. You'd buy a second hand real netbook for that much.

Less even. I got an eeePC on Adverts for €75.

Beano

babo9 wrote: »

Loooooool, I could fit more in my pocket

you misread it. it says

Memory 128MB Storage 4GB

so it has 4gb of storage

Moonbeam

Nerin wrote: »

Ah balls. I got all excited even though i knew... Need a cheap netbook.

Have a look at the eeepcs,they are reasonably priced and good.

babo9

Beano wrote: »

you misread it. it says

Memory 128MB Storage 4GB

so it has 4gb of storage

Oh right, still nothing to be happy about.

Let me rephrase:
128MB ram? I have more in my pocket calculator

Capt'n Midnight

redalan wrote: »

Is it really that bad, even for the folks who are not tech savvy but first time users?

It would put them off laptops

I would not even recommend it to be given to a primary school child to use as a first laptop, even if you had money to burn.

It's like a stripped down version of windows 98
Except it won't run any programs that can run on windows 98
It will only run programs recompiled for windows CE
It will only run windows CE programs written for ARM processors

It will only run windows CE programs written for ARM processors, and at this stage most of the developers of free software have moved on to other platforms so there is very little quality software and a lot of half developed abandonware. Yes you can buy stuff, but what defeats the purpose, yes you can get java etc. but at this stage you could probably run java on your microwave oven / car's engine management system / dvd player



You'd probably be better off buying a bluetooth keyboard,a 4GB micro SD card and a A5 Fresnel magnifier and connecting to your mobile phone.

carbsy

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

You'd probably be better off buying a bluetooth keyboard,a 4GB micro SD card and a A5 Fresnel magnifier and connecting to your mobile phone.

haha

Dan_Solo

Has anyone worked out if the CE is embedded? It might at least be fun to boot into DSL or something if possible.

Svetti Arss

I wanted to play this on it but it the Arrnotts salesperson said it want powerful enough.

Alanstrainor

Svetti Arss wrote: »

I wanted to play this on it but it the Arrnotts salesperson said it want powerful enough.

Fixed

Svetti Arss

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Fixed

Thanks what went wrong there? I tried to add the image several times.

Capt'n Midnight

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Has anyone worked out if the CE is embedded? It might at least be fun to boot into DSL or something if possible.

Don't say the word embedded, people might think it's embedded windows which is a different product with license costs 10-20 times higher (because it's 10-20 times more usable)



http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2004/jun04/06-28derivativespr.mspx

Windows CE Core license, with an estimated retail price of $3,

So microsoft themselves reckoned the license was worth $3,
retail,
in a press release designed to big it up,
back in 2004

partyatmygaff

Why bother buying rubbish like that?


https://www.vodafone.ie/df/shop/DirectViewBuy.shtml;jsessionid=BVb9MhqbGsRwX441J3jhNxmLGZmj8kXHfC1prnxgp3RYGyxhR0Jy!1971967773!635203581?handsetselected=387045&offerSelected=prepayporting&action=view

A €59 phone would wipe the floor with it.

WiFi, 3G, GPS and touchscreen and 256MB RAM. Shame about the small screen though.

yoyo

Just googled the machine there and found This. Simple stuff for a "first time user" to go through alrite to upgrade the firmware (A necessity apparently if you want the thing to actually save certain stuff on turning off), lol

Nick

Capt'n Midnight

Just in case anyone still thinks this is in any way functional

from the manual http://www.shomar.ie/index.php?page=otic-netbook-user-manual

3 X USB Port, with USB 1.1 specification at speed up to 12Mbps.
Note: These USB Ports support Keyboards and Mice etc. but don’t support USB Memory Sticks, Hard Drives, Optical Drives or Printers.


The only programs that will run on your Mini notebook are those designed specifically for MS Windows CE 5.0 running on the ARM processor.
You cannot run programs designed for Windows 2000 / XP / Vista or other Windows Mobile platforms like Pocket PC or Windows Mobile 6.

you can't even run programs written for windows CE 5.0 for other processors , cba figuring out if you could run ARM specific programs for other versions of windows CE

With a real netbook you could run almost any program that was written for almost any PC , from the 1980's to the lifespan of the netbook and for any current PC OS not just windows or a specific version

Dan_Solo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAPwL6Ecm6s
Any chance this would work on it?

Dan_Solo

Here's another.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g83HkFKwZ3I