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Just failed NCT - still within limits
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17-11-2010 4:34pm#1Hi all
Just need your advice on something.
I just failed my NCT because the wishbone bushes were worn.
I was aware of this and actually ordered new ones and had them in the glovebox - I didn't have time to fit them as I have been very busy this week.
Car flew through the nct earlier but tester failed it because of the worn bushes and he said I need to get them changed and have it retested (which costs €28) because i needed to resit the "slide slip test"
When i arrived home i went through the Report sheet to see how the car did.
The first test reading is the Side-slip/Alignment test for which my result was -13.0m/Km and the parameters for passing are +14 to -14(m/Km)
I know im right at the boundary and the bushes are indeed worn but I dont see why i have to go through the hassle of sitting a retest and paying another €28 euro if the car was entitled to pass and was not out of the set parameters.
Also notice the way on the results sheet it says N/A as opposed to FAIL
Am I missing something??
Just thought id ask here before going back to the test centre.
Thanks for any advice
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Well if i didnt fail the Slip test , then I dont see why I have to re sit that test and pay €28 for the privelege??
Sorry, dont mean to be akward but im not fully satisfied that it should have failed and i have to resit a €28 test which i didnt theoretically fail?
OK, baby steps.......
- u passed the slip test
- you have worn suspension bushings observed visually by the tester
- these do need to be replaced
- tie rod ends etc will need to be loosened or removed to facilitate replacement of these bushings
- this can effect allignment so the allignment will need to be tested along with the bushings
- regardless of the alignment the car needs to go on a ramp to verify the bushings have been replaced
Happy now ?
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RoverJames wrote: »OK, baby steps.......
- u passed the slip test
- you have worn suspension bushings observed visually by the tester
- these do need to be replaced
- tie rod ends etc will need to be loosened or removed to facilitate replacement of these bushings
- this can effect allignment so the allignment will need to be tested along with the bushings
- regardless of the alignment the car needs to go on a ramp to verify the bushings have been replaced
Happy now ?
Hmm, kind of. I was under the impression that the worn bushings were the source of the -13 reading , which is pretty bad and the tester took it upon himself to fail it "visually" even thought the bushes weren't worn past a minimum level so to speak.
Anyway, i know they need to be changed (i inspected them myself as they were making a slight knocking sound and they werent actually too bad) - i have them bought already just didnt have time to fit them yet.
Still I think the tester was being a prick .. and then had the cheek to ask me to burn him a copy of the CD that was playing in my car and drop it back up to him when i come for the "retest" :rolleyes:
... If he was sound i would have just given him the damn CD (but thats slightly off topic
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Hmm, kind of. I was under the impression that the worn bushings were the source of the -13 reading , which is pretty bad and the tester took it upon himself to fail it "visually" even thought the bushes weren't worn past a minimum level so to speak.
Anyway, i know they need to be changed (i inspected them myself as they were making a slight knocking sound and they werent actually too bad) - i have them bought already just didnt have time to fit them yet.
Still I think the tester was being a prick .. and then had the cheek to ask me to burn him a copy of the CD that was playing in my car and drop it back up to him when i come for the "retest" :rolleyes:
... If he was sound i would have just given him the damn CD (but thats slightly off topic )
I think you still don't really get the whole idea.
Slip test/allignment test are completely separate thing from visual inspection of bushings.
They are even in complete separate parts of NCT manual: http://www.ncts.ie/pdf/nctmanual.pdf
And that one affects the other one, is just an coincidence.0 -
Hmm, kind of. I was under the impression that the worn bushings were the source of the -13 reading , which is pretty bad and the tester took it upon himself to fail it "visually" even thought the bushes weren't worn past a minimum level so to speak.
Anyway, i know they need to be changed (i inspected them myself as they were making a slight knocking sound and they werent actually too bad) - i have them bought already just didnt have time to fit them yet.
Still I think the tester was being a prick .. and then had the cheek to ask me to burn him a copy of the CD that was playing in my car and drop it back up to him when i come for the "retest" :rolleyes:
... If he was sound i would have just given him the damn CD (but thats slightly off topic )
How was he being a prick? Say for arguments sake you replace those bushings next week. When you replace them the alignment will be definitely be out requiring the car to be tracked. If you dont track it send it for the test and he checks the bushes and not the the side slip like you want well then he will be passing a car thats not right.0 -
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I think you still don't really get the whole idea.
Slip test/allignment test are completely separate thing from visual inspection of bushings.
They are even in complete separate parts of NCT manual: http://www.ncts.ie/pdf/nctmanual.pdf
And that one affects the other one, is just an coincidence.
I get the idea (now that rover james has spelt it out ) I was just saying what I thought was the case beforehand.
I'll fit the bushings tomorrow and the retest is booked for Friday. ... hes not getting a CD though0 -
My tyres passed the tread-depth test, but one had a strutural defect (bulge) so I failed. My tyre's defect has nothing to do with the thread depth, even though they are both related (i.e. checks to do with tyres). When I get the new tyres the mechanic will run through all tyre-related tests again.
Same scenario for you - you passed the slip test, but your bushings were worn. They are defective and need to be replaced. Unfortunately for you, by replacing them you're messing around with stuff that's been tested to be within spec beforehand, but might not be within spec afterwards. This restest involves using the NCT equipment again so you have to pay.
Might I suggest an earlier service for next time?
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