American remake of Martyrs gets its director

Otis Driftwood

Director of The Last Exorcism,Daniel Stamm,has been confirmed as director of the American remake of French horror movie Martyrs.

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I dont know what to say other than Im both flabbergasted that this film will be remade and disgusted by the thought of it.Martyrs is one of the best horror movies I have ever seen and it effected me in a way that less than 5 movies ever have done.

Its well known that I hate remakes of horror movies but Jesus tap dancing Christ this is surely the most laughable remake to ever get green lit.

My only hope is that it strays wildly from the source material because I really dont believe that an American version will be anything other than an utter abortion of a movie and the original does not deserve to have its name sullied.
:mad:

johnny_ultimate

Rated PG 13 for mild peril.



While Let Me In showed that not all horror remakes are awful (redundant,perhaps, but not awful) there is not a chance in hell the extreme content necessary to make Martyrs work will transfer over well.

Sanjuro

There is absolutely no way the remake will be anything like the original Martyrs. I'm not particularly a fan of the movie. While I thought it opened extremely strongly, for me it seemed to end without having said very much. Having said that, the production was of an extremely high quality, and is definitely worth a watch.

But there's no way an American remake will go for the extreme and realistic violence of the original. You can have all the rubbish Saw movies in the world, but Martyrs is a different kettle of fish all together and US production companies just wont have the balls to make it properly. Absolute fail.

azezil

Jebis wept

Mindkiller

I guess now I'll have to watch the French version. Heard loads about it.

Is it the type of movie that could be watched with the folks? Do you think they'll appreciate it?

johnny_ultimate

Mindkiller wrote: »

I guess now I'll have to watch the French version. Heard loads about it.

Is it the type of movie that could be watched with the folks? Do you think they'll appreciate it?

Deffo, Sunday afternoon triple bill of Martyrs, Antichrist and Irreversible will make for a fine family gathering this holiday season. Bring the kids!

DrumSteve

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Deffo, Sunday afternoon triple bill of Martyrs, Antichrist and Irreversible will make for a fine family gathering this holiday season. Bring the kids!

Actually bought anti-christ yesterday out of curiosity... not sure what to expect... i'm a big fan of takeshi miike so is it worse than anything he's done?

Morlar

I wasn't a big fan of martyrs but all of these 'remake in the american language' films are increasingly disgusting. I would include the remade in english language version of 'Let the right one in' which on principle I will avoid like the plague. It's down to money pure money money money and an absence of creativity and originality.

Warper

DrumSteve wrote: »

Actually bought anti-christ yesterday out of curiosity... not sure what to expect... i'm a big fan of takeshi miike so is it worse than anything he's done?

Its an absolute bore with hardly any redeeming features at all.
I think the last 20 mins were graphic just to be controversial and hence talked about. Awful film.

Warper

Morlar wrote: »

I wasn't a big fan of martyrs but all of these 'remake in the american language' films are increasingly disgusting. I would include the remade in english language version of 'Let the right one in' which on principle I will avoid like the plague. It's down to money pure money money money and an absence of creativity and originality.

That and the constant rehash of older films and sequels. Hollywood lacks creativity in general, if a certain formula works well (by this I mean at the box office), then you can be sure it will be re-done to death.

johnny_ultimate

DrumSteve wrote: »

Actually bought anti-christ yesterday out of curiosity... not sure what to expect... i'm a big fan of takeshi miike so is it worse than anything he's done?

As a veteran of Visitor Q, I was even shocked at the nastiness of two scenes in Antichrist. As a film, though, it veers from moderately interesting commentary on violence in cinema to straight up silliness. Worth a watch, just be prepared for poorly delivered talking animal intervals. Less rewarding on the whole then the like of Martyrs of Miike's best, though, which tend to be excellent films alongside the extreme stuff.

DrumSteve

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

As a veteran of Visitor Q, I was even shocked at the nastiness of two scenes in Antichrist. As a film, though, it veers from moderately interesting commentary on violence in cinema to straight up silliness. Worth a watch, just be prepared for poorly delivered talking animal intervals. Less rewarding on the whole then the like of Martyrs of Miike's best, though, which tend to be excellent films alongside the extreme stuff.

Very true

the clitoris getting cut off was fairly nasty

but other than that the film kinda of bored me. I didnt really have the shock of say, Audition especially

the part with his feet getting cut off.

Warper

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Deffo, Sunday afternoon triple bill of Martyrs, Antichrist and Irreversible will make for a fine family gathering this holiday season. Bring the kids!

Havn't seen this, is it any good?

Edit: Looks good, was looking to buy it but its around STG£30 wherever ive looked (Play and Amazon), anyone know where i can buy it at a reasonable price?

Mindkiller

DrumSteve wrote: »

Very true

the clitoris getting cut off was fairly nasty

but other than that the film kinda of bored me. I didnt really have the shock of say, Audition especially

the part with his feet getting cut off.

Oh ok, so it's not the family feel-good romp that I was expecting. Oh well.

But this 'Irreversible' sounds interesting! And Monica Belucci is in it too, hmm...

latenia

The original was just torture porn by-the-numbers with the usual 'message' or undergraduate philosophizing tacked on in a sad attempt to give it some credibilty/get it past the censors. Ned, you seriously need to watch more horror movies if you think this is one of the best you've seen.

Otis Driftwood

latenia wrote: »

The original was just torture porn by-the-numbers with the usual 'message' or undergraduate philosophizing tacked on in a sad attempt to give it some credibilty/get it past the censors. Ned, you seriously need to watch more horror movies if you think this is one of the best you've seen.

TBH the fact you even use the term torture porn nevermind attach it to Martyrs says it all amigo.;)And Id be fairly sure Ive seen a helluva lot more horror movies than most posters on this forum.:)

Otis Driftwood

Warper wrote: »

Havn't seen this, is it any good?

Edit: Looks good, was looking to buy it but its around STG£30 wherever ive looked (Play and Amazon), anyone know where i can buy it at a reasonable price?

Irreversible is one of those rare movies that got a fairly decent release from Tartan but its resale value has increased rather than decreased.Your best bet would be ebay for the Tartan region 2 release.There are also some decent enough region 3 releases too.

Karl Hungus

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

While Let Me In showed that not all horror remakes are awful (redundant,perhaps, but not awful) there is not a chance in hell the extreme content necessary to make Martyrs work will transfer over well.

I cannot see a remake of Martyrs working, and not so much because of the violent content, but because Martyrs left us with such a poignantly vague and haunting conclusion. It wasn't just the violence that made it such a disturbing experience, and I can't help but think that American studios would insist upon the ending being changed. Same with Inside, I could imagine them getting away with the extremities in a remake, but that elements of the story would be changed to make it more mainstream.

Let Me In is a perfect example of this. I've not seen it, and I've no intention of seeing it, even though it might be a perfectly ok film in it's own right, I take issue with certain character details they apparently left out. That in the original,

we initially make an assumption about the "I'm not a girl" line, at least until we see that crotch shot and see that Eli is a castrato, the then line takes on a whole new meaning, but (and correct me if I'm wrong) in the remake this little detail is left out, leaving the "not a girl" line to audiences original assumptions that 'she' means she's not human/a vampire.

To me, that's creating a film that is for all intents and purposes the same, but has cleansed the story of anything that mainstream American audiences might be uncomfortable with or find subversive.

It's for reasons like this that I absolutely dread the possibility of an Oldboy remake, because if

a boy in love with a castrato vampire

is deemed too much, then

a man being tricked into f*cking his own daughter, and then getting himself hypnotized so he doesn't remember it's his daughter and can presumably keep up the incestuous relationship guilt free

doesn't have a hope in hell of seeing the light of day in an American remake. A new Oldboy might be as close to the original as possible in every other regard, having mainly almost identical scenes, even recreating that famous corridor fight scene, and it could be judged to be quite a good film, but ultimately would be a more sanitized version leaving out controversial aspects that could cause upset.

So as far as I see it, gore doesn't truly bother most audiences. They could probably get away with the violence of Martyrs in a remake, but whether they'll leave the story intact without diminishing it or watering it down to make it more palatable is another question altogether, and I would imagine that a Martyrs remake would be easily ground down to little more than another Hostel.

Karl Hungus

nedtheshed wrote: »

Irreversible is one of those rare movies that got a fairly decent release from Tartan but its resale value has increased rather than decreased.Your best bet would be ebay for the Tartan region 2 release.There are also some decent enough region 3 releases too.

As far as I know, the DVD has been out of print for some time and hasn't been re-released, hence the high prices it tends to go for online. I remember hunting for the film a few years ago and being informed it was deleted, only to catch it for next to nothing in some small sale shop that popped up briefly.

Otis Driftwood

Karl Hungus wrote: »

As far as I know, the DVD has been out of print for some time and hasn't been re-released, hence the high prices it tends to go for online. I remember hunting for the film a few years ago and being informed it was deleted, only to catch it for next to nothing in some small sale shop that popped up briefly.

It is OOP alright but so are all the Tartan releases since Tartan folded (unless Im mistaken) however all the Tartan releases of more obscure movies such as Bad Guy or The Isle are readily available for relatively little but Irreversible is very pricey.

Eph1958

'Was really funny a few years ago when Martyrs was the centrepiece of the Horrorthon at around 9 o'clock on Saturday evening. Loads of guys trying to impress their gfs going to see it. The look of unadulterated shock/horror as the film unfolded was amazing. Left most unsuspecting folk in need of stiff drink and disbelieving what they had actually went to see.
Without a doubt the most shocking film I have seen...... Like everything else, Hollywood can only ruin it.. but I might still give it a viewing!!!