Someone stuck a sticker on my window today

one2one

Hi Guys,
Someone stuck some of them "strictly no parking in this area" stickers on my car today, one on windscreen and one on drivers window.

The area where I was parked had no 'No Parking' signs or yellow lines what so ever, anyways thats not the point.

My question is are these legal? Is it not a type of criminal damage to my vehicle? Would love to hear peoples thoughts on this issue.

Thanks.

Z Brannigan

one2one wrote: »

Hi Guys,
Someone stuck some of them "strictly no parking in this area" stickers on my car today, one on windscreen and one on drivers window.

The area where I was parked had no 'No Parking' signs or yellow lines what so ever, anyways thats not the point.

My question is are these legal? Is it not a type of criminal damage to my vehicle? Would love to hear peoples thoughts on this issue.

Thanks.

Was it private property or anything?

GreeBo

Were you too close to a corner or ped crossing?

one2one

Yeah, it was in Gannon Park car park. I asked to speak to a car park attendant or someone in charge of parking and noone could point me in the right direction.

I couldn't find any disclaimers on parking either!

biko

Where were you exactly? Maybe there were signs you missed?
Not sure about the legality of sticking sticker to peoples car windows, but most of us would want to (see obnoxious parking thread).

A sticker does make a point, rather just a piece of paper under the wiper.

one2one

Z Brannigan wrote: »

Was it private property or anything?

GreeBo wrote: »

Were you too close to a corner or ped crossing?

No, this car-park is always packed, there were cars on the grass, on footpaths, everywhere, but I decided to park safely and I get the stickers on my window!

one2one

I was parked in the middle in the above image. I've seen 3/4 vehicles parked here in previous weeks, and never any problems.

Below is the one of the stickers on my window, took ages to get off, and lucky to come off without scrathes to my windows!

coylemj

TCD used to be ruthless and I believe UCD are the same, if you were doing a night class and parked in the wrong place they slapped a big sticker on the windscreen, it's meant to teach you a lesson and let's face it, it's better than being clamped by those private companies who only employee psychopathic thugs.

Got a big one in Trinity on the windscreen one night, I'd arrived late for my class and just dumped the car anywhere. Fortunately it was pissing down raining heavily so I was able to just scrape it off with a credit card.

guil

i drive a bin lorry and the places people park in estates is beyond belief, i'd have a field day with those stickers

Mozoltov!

Says Malahide UTD on it. Do they own the car park? If you were parked perpendicular to the cars in the photo and weren't blocking anybody in, I don't see the problem. I know there's not space outlined there but there's no double yellow lines.

I'd take a visit over to Malahide UTD and ask WTF. It was probably some parent who felt they'd more right to be there than you.

You know it was done by someone who was pissed off 'cause if you ever get clamped or a parking ticket they never fully unwrap the whole sticker and put it on your window. They only ever unwrap a small strip and stick it on so you don't have to spend a half hour peelin' sticker off your window.

CiniO

one2one wrote: »

I was parked in the middle in the above image. I've seen 3/4 vehicles parked here in previous weeks, and never any problems.

Below is the one of the stickers on my window, took ages to get off, and lucky to come off without scrathes to my windows!

Heh.
That's the purpose of these stickers - that it should take ages to take them off.
I don't know who put it on your window, but definitely I think he made a good thing.
Next time you will think for a moment, before you park in place where it's not permitted.

PS. You say you've seen few vehicles parked in the same spot few weeks ago. So now you understand why today the place was empty - they already had time to rethink their attitude while taking their stickers off
:D:D:D:D:D

one2one

Where in the picture above does it suggest parking is not permitted, and remember to the right of the road, there are vehicles on footpaths and grass areas? Cheers:D

stop

A lot of clamping companies have signs stating "park in marked bays only" which essentially would make where you were parked a place liable for clamping.
Different car parks are adminstrated by different folk, a sticker on the window is better than a clamp on the wheel.

johnos1984

I reckon they didn't like the colour of your Clio :pac:

Also you should of taken a picture of the car as it was parked and put it in the badly parked thread

CiniO

one2one wrote: »

Where in the picture above does it suggest parking is not permitted, and remember to the right of the road, there are vehicles on footpaths and grass areas? Cheers:D

Even if there isn't a info stating: "park in marked bays only", it's common sense.
Obviously also it's forbidden to park in a place that's obstructing someone's way....
Please, tell me how this silver VW could exit the parking without mounting the kerb with front wheels, if your car was parked in a space shown by arrow?

charlemont

:mad:

MarkR

Just because your handbrake was up, doesn't mean you were parked. Try to use a space next time.

garancafan

one2one wrote: »

The area where I was parked had no 'No Parking' signs...

On a stroll down Grafton St. recently I noticed that nobody was wearing a "Do not Mug" sign.

-Corkie-

You should look at the `more obnoxious parking thread`. You parked in a place that was not a designated parking spot. If I had taken a picture of your car parked in that spot with the sticker on it and posted it in that thread. I would have got 6 million thank you`s ......;)

Pkiernan

Regardless of whether or nor parking is permitted in that spot (and to me, it looks like a car should not have been parked there), the issue is:

Does a private individual or company have the legal right to effectively disfigure (temporarily) or potentially damage a car parked on private ground?

The answer is no.

I am in 2 minds about this - I would love to be able to put PFO stickers on the people who park on my private road, but I don't.

Malahide Utd are leaving themselves open to civil proceedings if they continue like this (assuming they are authorising someone to put stickers on cars).

Reg'stoy

Pkiernan wrote: »

Regardless of whether or nor parking is permitted in that spot (and to me, it looks like a car should not have been parked there), the issue is:

Does a private individual or company have the legal right to effectively disfigure (temporarily) or potentially damage a car parked on private ground?

The answer is no.

I am in 2 minds about this - I would love to be able to put PFO stickers on the people who park on my private road, but I don't.

Malahide Utd are leaving themselves open to civil proceedings if they continue like this (assuming they are authorising someone to put stickers on cars).

This wee little country of ours is going from bad to worse when someone decides to park any where he likes because there isn't a sign to say otherwise and another poster reckons he should sue them for 'disfiguring' his car.

FFS what next, suing your neighbour because he has let trees grow thereby allowing birds to roost and so potentionally s**t all over your car thus disfiguring it. It's always somebody else's fault, he parked incorrectly (as we all do on occasion) and got a rap on the knuckles which is a €120 times better than being clamped.

The thing that really annoys me, is that some ambulance chaser would take such a case; because the poor 'victim' got a nasty rash from the hot soapy water he had to use to remove the disfiguring sticker.

Pkiernan

Reg'stoy wrote: »

This wee little country of ours is going from bad to worse when someone decides to park any where he likes because there isn't a sign to say otherwise and another poster reckons he should sue them for 'disfiguring' his car.

FFS what next, suing your neighbour because he has let trees grow thereby allowing birds to roost and so potentionally s**t all over your car thus disfiguring it. It's always somebody else's fault, he parked incorrectly (as we all do on occasion) and got a rap on the knuckles which is a €120 times better than being clamped.

I did not suggest that anyone should sue anyone, merely that Malahide Utd or an authorised agent ARE leaving themselves open to being sued.

Your "tree" analogy isn't really relevant.

The facts are:

1. Despite the apparent lack of signage, the operator of a private carpark decided to "punish" someone for parking incorrectly by putting stickers on their car, which can prove to be difficult to remove.

2. This act was a "punishment" in that had it been intended to be informative, a notice or leaflet would have been used to impart information, not a sticker on the window.

3. The individual or company involved does not have the legal right to "punish" in this fashion.

A more relevant anaolgy would be:

I am driving in a Tescos carpark. You pull out in front of me, but we avoid colliding. You are at fault, but no harm done. I go my way, you park up to do your shopping.
A carpark attendant sees the incident and puts stickers on your windows advising you to be more careful in future when in a Tescos car park.

Would this be an acceptable "rap on the knuckles"?

How about instead of just stickers, the carpark attendant lets all the air out if the tyres as well. That'll learn him. No real harm done after all...

Absurdum

Pkiernan wrote: »

You pull out in front of me, but we avoid colliding. You are at fault, but no harm done.

Maybe a sticker on his windscreen created a blindspot

bazzachazza

Could so easily have been another thread topic.

"Some A***hole has just reversed into my badly parked car"

Followed by I dumped my car in Malahide Utd car park (ok it wasn't a marked spot) and didn't leave room for other properly parked cars to get out............



So what! Just be lucky it wasn't a parking fine you got. How long did you leave you car inconsiderately parked for you haven't mentioned that. Were the same cars in the same spots or did someone complain that you blocked them in. They probably have many people doing the same thing and target that spot and not the others. People parked on the grass and paths generally are less of an annoyance than people BLOCKING others access to proper parking spots.

Would you park in the middle of the M50 just because it didn't have a No parking sign ?

sensormatic

its not your fault i blame the person who gave you ur driving licence
Afterall its a parking lot and you are supposed to park between the line thats common sense
us real drivers know that

PCPhoto

OP ... unlike many of the posters I have some pity for you !!

it is an annoyance to have to "suffer" a sticker on two windows....especially when there is enough space to park and does not impede the other parked cars.

However

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you should ask why isn't this area marked for parking ...is it kept clear for cars to turn, is it required for emergency access ?

there is a reason why others are not parking in the same area as you - because they know its not a designated parking spot, it appears that the club have been doing this, but the question of legality about doing so is what you are most likely to be on boards whinging about.

I'm open to correction but I vaguely remember some legal heads who were clamped years and years ago who couldn't argue with the actual clamp so they challenged the stickers that the clampers were using as they were difficult to remove and in effect caused damage (which is why they don't fully stick and they remove them themselves nowadays)..... this is similar.... however... you are on private land and different rules apply.

as regards your parking ..... next time you will think twice.

on a side note - the problem with bad drivers in general on the roads today is a mixture of ignorance or stupidity......ALL bad drivers are either ignorant or are stupid ....if for example, someone told you (the OP) that you couldn't park there ...would you:
a) tell them to eff off
b) say..yeah yeah ...and stay there anyway
c) argue why cant you park there - theres plenty of space
d) say sorry, admit your mistake, ask if they spotted any available spaces and move your car into one of the properly lines car parking spaces.


* answer a)= ignorance, b) ignorance, c) stupid d) correct thing to do.

Cookie_Monster

In regards the sticker, UCD do this with quite big stickers. During my time there I heard they got in trouble for sticking them to front windows due to it blocking your view so resorted to sticking it to side or rear windows. (yes I know this still blocks your view)

Theres an old red van that has 5 or 6 stuck to its rear window, I think the owners keeps them as a badge of honour at this stage

seamus

PCPhoto wrote: »

However

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you should ask why isn't this area marked for parking

Because there's no room to park there:
http://bit.ly/9KTieS

PCPhoto

seamus wrote: »

Because there's no room to park there:
http://bit.ly/9KTieS

OP ... I have lost my sympathy for you .... you were parked in an area which is not designed for parking and potentially blocked drivers from moving their cars if required (if not blocked you certainly made it extremely awkward)

the pic the OP posted is deceptive in that it shows loads of space but the overhead view shows the OP was creating a hazard.

Shame on you OP ....SHAME !!!

(Park legal - Park right !!!)

seamus

Now to be fair to him and give him the benefit of the doubt, it's possible that the layout has changed since the satellite photos were taken - even the bird's eye view on MS Maps doesn't show the fence that's been erected there. But I'd assume otherwise unless the OP takes another photo.

bazzachazza

seamus wrote: »

Because there's no room to park there:
http://bit.ly/9KTieS

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

I'm surprised your car didn't get tarred and feathered like it should have.

This thread has now developed into a nice facepalm thread:D:D

bazzachazza

seamus wrote: »

Now to be fair to him and give him the benefit of the doubt, it's possible that the layout has changed since the satellite photos were taken - even the bird's eye view on MS Maps doesn't show the fence that's been erected there. But I'd assume otherwise unless the OP takes another photo.

Doubt it really as it would involve wasting perfectly good parking spots for no reason.

touts

one2one wrote: »

I was parked in the middle in the above image. I've seen 3/4 vehicles parked here in previous weeks, and never any problems.

Below is the one of the stickers on my window, took ages to get off, and lucky to come off without scrathes to my windows!

If I was the driver of the silver polo I would be furious that some twat came along and parked in my reversing space. You don't need a licence or 20 lessons to know the basic rule of parking: don't box another person in. Its just good manners.

cantdecide

OP- just because they hadn't any "stop being an incosiderate, self-centered twat" sticker doesn't mean that's not what was implied.



Try using this on that pesky sticker.

mb1725

The Cork Regional Hospital used to slap on a big paper sticker with super sticky glue for such bad parking. They used to stick it on the passenger side of windscreen and also on side window. Those things took an age to remove and many's the car used to be seen running around with these 'badges of honour' on them for weeks. Not sure if it still going on.

galwaytt

Pkiernan wrote: »

Regardless of whether or nor parking is permitted in that spot (and to me, it looks like a car should not have been parked there), the issue is:

Does a private individual or company have the legal right to effectively disfigure (temporarily) or potentially damage a car parked on private ground?

The answer - I think is no.

I am in 2 minds about this - I would love to be able to put PFO stickers on the people who park on my private road, but I don't.

Malahide Utd are leaving themselves open to civil proceedings if they continue like this (assuming they are authorising someone to put stickers on cars).

FYP.

And actually, if it's private property, until the law is changed, they can. It's merely information.

As for courts........gimmeabreak.........that sort of nonsense, time-wasting suit, is what has this country the way it is.

And, where traffic has open access, the RoR apply. The courts already determined, years ago ( in Dunnes' car park saga iirc...), that the RTA applies to, for the same reason.

And a sticker is not 'damage'. As surely as a 'safety camera' is that, then a sticker is merely an alternative to:

1. (on environmental grounds.....:rolleyes:) a piece of wet soggy paper that could get blown away, causing litter.....
2. A wheel clamp
3. A tow-away charge

It's also polite.

Parking as OP did, otoh, certainly wasn't.

dr.fuzzenstein

Pkiernan wrote: »

Regardless of whether or nor parking is permitted in that spot (and to me, it looks like a car should not have been parked there), the issue is:

Does a private individual or company have the legal right to effectively disfigure (temporarily) or potentially damage a car parked on private ground?

The answer is no.

I am in 2 minds about this - I would love to be able to put PFO stickers on the people who park on my private road, but I don't.

Malahide Utd are leaving themselves open to civil proceedings if they continue like this (assuming they are authorising someone to put stickers on cars).

True, they should just start clamping, that would be much better...