Annoying cows

Miller80

I have a few cows that are really p*issing me off, they only lie half way up in cubicle and are filthy coming into parlour. All the rest are perfect and I hardly have to wipe them but these few make the milking more difficult and 1 got mastitus this week. any ideas on how to get them to lie up properly?

John_F

what width and length are the cubicles?

Miller80

not sure of exact measurements but dont think thats the problem now as there are a lot bigger cows lying right. the problem was last year, bars were moved and not put back in correct position and the cubicles werent long enough. when we moved bars back to correct position nearly all cows were grand apart from 3.

Tipp Man

Yeah we had 1 cow that was like that, fair annoying as the scraper kept getting knocked of the rail by her

Far more annoying though is this cow that is always last into the milking parlour. Every single milking, without fail, she will lift the tail while milking and s##t for Ireland. I mean she's been standing out in the slats for 45 mins while the others are milking but yet she will wait till we have the machine on her to let rip. What a bit#h

bbam

Tipp Man wrote: »

Yeah we had 1 cow that was like that, fair annoying as the scraper kept getting knocked of the rail by her

Far more annoying though is this cow that is always last into the milking parlour. Every single milking, without fail, she will lift the tail while milking and s##t for Ireland. I mean she's been standing out in the slats for 45 mins while the others are milking but yet she will wait till we have the machine on her to let rip. What a bit#h

That reminds me of a time I went out on a breakdown call years ago... was working on replacing a pump which was housed in the collecting yard... Just as I finished and gathered my tools a "helpful" auld daisy let rip... I swear she half filled my tool box

whelan1

are they near drying off

theroad

Tipp Man wrote: »

Far more annoying though is this cow that is always last into the milking parlour. Every single milking, without fail, she will lift the tail while milking and s##t for Ireland. I mean she's been standing out in the slats for 45 mins while the others are milking but yet she will wait till we have the machine on her to let rip. What a bit#h

I think I had her sister in the herd . She went last year to her eternal reward but it was fair annoying alright.

There was another one who worked out how to open the gate at the front of the parlour. She'd hang back until she knew she'd be at the head of the row, and then when she was bored of being milked she'd tip the latch with her nose and head off, shi**ing as she went. But then she got chronic mastitis and had to go. Just as well too. We're not breeding them for intelligence.

John_F

Miller80 wrote: »

not sure of exact measurements but dont think thats the problem now as there are a lot bigger cows lying right. the problem was last year, bars were moved and not put back in correct position and the cubicles werent long enough. when we moved bars back to correct position nearly all cows were grand apart from 3.

could it be the height of the bed above the passage? ive seen beds up 9"

bogman_bass

we had a mountbelliard that would climb up with her front legs in the feed trough in the parlour and steal the meal from the cows next to her. Would have to stretch to take the cluster off her.

Shauny2010

theroad wrote: »

We're not breeding them for intelligence.

Have a too brainy for her own good cow ,she does the following :-

1: Puck other cows through the electric fence to break it
2:Go in the opposite direction to the others when rounding them up
3:Refuses to go into a Trailer/Crush/Shed
4: Roars at me to move them to fresh grass even though they`ve been moved in the morning:mad:
5:Roars at me when she cant see her calf!!
6:Stands across the feeding passage to stop others from feeding

Ah well she makes up for it by having a topper of a calf each year!:)

whelan1

bogman_bass wrote: »

we had a mountbelliard that would climb up with her front legs in the feed trough in the parlour and steal the meal from the cows next to her. Would have to stretch to take the cluster off her.

we had a cow that could feed herself , she could get her tongue around the rope for the feeders, she could also open the gate at the front of the row... she broke into the parlour one night and had a great time :rolleyes: was a brilliant milker as she always had loads of feed

dar31

a couple of ladies that feed themselves in the parlour, even though it is only a certain feeder that it happens with, will always get in that spot in the row.
the feeders in the parlour have a cover on the front held there with a few nails through holes in the cover, one lady recently figured if she pulled out the nails with her teeth, then hit it with her head, the cover would fall off, and she could then feed herself. didnt belive it my self till i seen it. she now has a lovely nose plug for her troubles.
there is always one in a group that sticks out as trouble makers.

aidanki

bogman_bass wrote: »

we had a mountbelliard that would climb up with her front legs in the feed trough in the parlour and steal the meal from the cows next to her. Would have to stretch to take the cluster off her.

they are a right nuisance espically as they upset the one in frount and behind, you need headlocks solve the problem, we have them and they are a great job

Miller80

no they aint near drying yet unfortunately. the cubicles are ok now, its just a few got into this bad habit when we hadnt the cubicles right.just looking to see if anyone has any ideas to encourage these cows to start to ly right again.
in our old parlour we had a number of cows that would pull the rope for nuts and others would stand up on troughs and eat other cows nuts, but i still think the most annoying cow is the 1 that takes ages to milk, nothing worse than a slow 1 in the last line!

whelan1

Miller80 wrote: »

no they aint near drying yet unfortunately. the cubicles are ok now, its just a few got into this bad habit when we hadnt the cubicles right.just looking to see if anyone has any ideas to encourage these cows to start to ly right again.
in our old parlour we had a number of cows that would pull the rope for nuts and others would stand up on troughs and eat other cows nuts, but i still think the most annoying cow is the 1 that takes ages to milk, nothing worse than a slow 1 in the last line!

i have seen people tying them into the cubicle but dont think it works, think they just like lying in **** to annoy us

aidanki

Miller80 wrote: »

not sure of exact measurements but dont think thats the problem now as there are a lot bigger cows lying right. the problem was last year, bars were moved and not put back in correct position and the cubicles werent long enough. when we moved bars back to correct position nearly all cows were grand apart from 3.

saw a man training his heiffers to cubicles once, had them on their own in a corner in the run up to calving, as these were on slats he had a few super single tyres lying on the slats to make them uncomfortable to lie on

kay 9

Bit off topic I know, but at feeding time we put the bull in the shed and bucket feed him away from the cows, just enough to keep him happy. Anyway, when he's finished eating he tips the gate open with his head ever so gently:D Funny to watch him.

whelan1

when i started milking i had a 6 unit parlour on a an outfarm ... had a cow we called the general, if she didnt like the field they where going in to she would break down the fence into the next one :rolleyes: and bring the rest of them with her

dealerman

block both ends of the house with sandbags or the like and fill the center passage with water lock them in promblem sorted:D;)

whelan1

last row of cows broke into the meal store this morning... theres about 20 tonne of meal in there, they where in their element- my fault i left the gate open while trying to do 2 jobs at once:rolleyes:

5live

whelan1 wrote: »

when i started milking i had a 6 unit parlour on a an outfarm ... had a cow we called the general, if she didnt like the field they where going in to she would break down the fence into the next one :rolleyes: and bring the rest of them with her

Thanks whelan1. I think i bought her:eek:. She will only stay where there is metal wire. Ignores strip wire. Pushes heifers out of the way to get ration IN THE PARLOUR. But she met her daughter last week. The heifers broke into the milkers and i sorted them all bar 2 so said i would keep them until after milking. The Witch( normally with a capital decided to do a bit of bullying so off over the yard to pick on the 2 heifers. Her daughter dodged out of the way and lifted her mother up and flat out in the yard. I cracked up at her being done over by her daughter. Just wait till calving though:(

bogman_bass

Forget annoying cows. Whats more annoying than the calf that wont drink. I goat saked with beastings this evening by a new calf that just dont want to know!

potholes84

bogman_bass wrote: »

Forget annoying cows. Whats more annoying than the calf that wont drink. I goat saked with beastings this evening by a new calf that just dont want to know!

In that case i just walk away. They always drink the next feeding. As they say 'hunger is a great sauce'. Haven't seen a calf die of starvation yet.

aidanki

potholes84 wrote: »

In that case i just walk away. They always drink the next feeding. As they say 'hunger is a great sauce'. Haven't seen a calf die of starvation yet.

every now and then you get one that won't suck not to mind drink and has to be drenched for the first 3mths of his life before he is old enough to manage without

anyone got a cure for that one, have tried getting them to drink the cow but won't do that either

Enderol

I personally don't like force feeding calves but it does come to it sometimes. We've had calves that wouldn't drink and we'd simply have to hold them in place and move there mouth over the rubber to get them to drink. Can't take a long time alright.

Reading all these posts have brought back memories.

Anyone ever find that it's always the runt of the calves who ends up leading all of them into trouble?

John_F

some interesting vids here for the opening poster: http://www.youtube.com/user/Wilsonagri#p/u

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPqqTHyFKmg