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UFC 122 Discussion *SPOILERS*

  • 08-11-2010 5:29pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭


    UFC122.jpg

    Main event:

    185 lbs.: Nate Marquardt vs. Yushin Okami

    Main card (Televised):

    205 lbs.: Krzysztof Soszynski vs. Goran Reljic
    185 lbs.: Jorge Rivera vs. Alessio Sakara
    170 lbs.: Amir Sadollah vs. Peter Sobotta
    155 lbs.: Dennis Siver vs. Andre Winner

    Under card (May not be broadcast):

    185 lbs.: Rob Kimmons vs. Kyle Noke
    205 lbs.: Seth Petruzelli vs. Karlos Vemola
    205 lbs.: Jason Brilz vs. Vladimir Matyushenko
    170 lbs.: Duane Ludwig vs. Nick Osipczak
    185 lbs.: Kris McCray vs. Carlos Eduardo Rocha
    170 lbs.: Pascal Krauss vs. Kenny Robertson


    Post all your discussion here, don't really see the need for spoilers BUT IF YOU FIND OUT RESULTS FROM THE UNDERCARD PLEASE DO NOT POST AS MAY BE BROADCAST


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    I'm not arsed at all with this card, very very weak, can see the main event being a boring points decision


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭Gitb1


    Very unusual poster?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    Gitb1 wrote: »
    Very unusual poster?

    Yeah, a Limited Edition Zombie poster, i think they gave 100 away on there FB page to whoever sent in the best pics of themselves dressed in a UFC theme for Halloween.

    Says a lot when the best thing about the card is the posters ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    I'll probably end up watching the farce that is Haye Vs Harrison :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    I'm looking forward to the main event tbh, I think I remember Marquardt saying how he didn't stick to his gameplan after Sonnen dominated him, crap talk more than likely, but I think it will be an interesting match since Okami should have a similar plan to Sonnen, Nate can't have any excuses this time. Hoping Okami kicks his ass all the same though

    Also looking forward to seeing a Denis Siver spinning back kick again:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    I'm looking forward to the main event tbh, I think I remember Marquardt saying how he didn't stick to his gameplan after Sonnen dominated him, crap talk more than likely, but I think it will be an interesting match since Okami should have a similar plan to Sonnen, Nate can't have any excuses this time. Hoping Okami kicks his ass all the same though

    Also looking forward to seeing a Denis Siver spinning back kick again:D

    Sure the echo of that one is still running round The Point


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭Screaming Monkey


    not a very exciting card, but glad Duane Ludwig is back, that was a nasty ankle injury in his last fight..

    SM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,399 ✭✭✭sonic85


    come on sadollah!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    Very weak card, not surprising that it's an event outside of the U.S.
    If Dana really does wish to break into the European market more he needs to get bigger names at events. I'm sure the event will sell out as people will want to experience a UFC event first hand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,803 ✭✭✭dunkamania


    There is no European market to break into. 20 countries with 20 languages, relatively low numbers of homegrown competitors, and a history of not buying PPV's. Also due to the time difference, US PPV numbers for the European cards have always been weak. The UFC would be mad to waste good fights on a European card.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    dunkamania wrote: »
    There is no European market to break into. 20 countries with 20 languages, relatively low numbers of homegrown competitors, and a history of not buying PPV's. Also due to the time difference, US PPV numbers for the European cards have always been weak. The UFC would be mad to waste good fights on a European card.

    Not only that, when they air it free on Spike i'm guessing that it's gonna be ram packed with ads for the PPV of UFC 123 which is the week later, i'm thinking this may become the norm, a weak Euro card to appease the euro fans a week before a major PPV. They did it for Ufc 120/121


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭sonic.trip


    scudzilla wrote: »
    Says a lot when the best thing about the card is the posters ;)

    lol :D

    the card is pretty crap tbh, luckily there is some boxing on as well :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    This is definately a really really weak card on paper.......... but who wants to bet it'll be a beast?

    It's always the "weak" cards that are the most exciting!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭unknown13


    scudzilla wrote: »
    Sure the echo of that one is still running round The Point

    The one on Kelly was nastier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Hopefully it doesn't clash with Pac-Man & Margarito, I might even try get a stream for the Keith Jardine fight. Hope are low, at least its free to air


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 sandywh


    MMA Spot - On The Spot ~ Dennis Siver
    When Germany's Dennis Siver steps into the Octagon this Saturday he will have nearly everyone in the König Pilsener Arena on his side. He will be facing "The Ultimate Fighter" finalist Andre Winner as part of the televised portion of at "UFC 122: Marquardt vs. Okami." And while Siver has accomplished quite a bit in his nine previous UFC fights, his tenth fight could be the one that changes how fans all over the world view him.

    Siver may not be the household name that other tough-as-nails fighters his ilk have become, but with an impressive win over Winner the Russian-born scrapper could quickly become known as one of the toughest guys in one of the toughest divisions in all of the sport. Already with wins over Nate Mohr, Paul Kelly, and Spencer Fisher on his resume Siver has made quite an impression on the UFC brass, earning him an opportunity to fight in front of his home crowd as the UFC continues its growth across Europe.

    MMA Spot's Andrew Yount caught up with Dennis prior to his bout to discuss the slugger's upcoming bout, his award winning fighting style, and being an ambassador for the sport in Germany.


    MMA Spot: How do you feel coming in to next week's fight with Andre Winner?
    Dennis Siver: I feel really good. My preparation is going quite well and I'm really looking forward to fighting in Germany. Andre is a really strong fighter, but in the end, the best man wins. Hopefully, it's me.

    MMA Spot: Does Winner bring anything special to the fight that you have had to adjust your training for?
    Siver: Well, of course, he has great boxing skills and his reach advantage is enormous. So I'm working on a game plan.

    MMA Spot: Where do you see your biggest advantage in this fight?
    Siver: I'm a well rounded fighter. I can punch and kick out of any angle. I have powerful kicks and knock out power.

    MMA Spot: How do you see the fight playing out?
    Siver: Of course, I can beat Andre. But as I have mentioned, he is a really good fighter. And you will never know how a fight will end. We will see who the better fighter is on this evening. But it would make me really happy, to beat him in front of the German crowd.

    MMA Spot: After nine UFC fights it seems that most fans have finally started to take notice of your ability. Have you purposely sought to put on the best show, or is winning still the most important thing?
    Siver: Winning is the number one priority. I'm not a big show man. I'm a fighter, not an entertainer. I want to entertain people with my fights and with knock outs. I still think some people underrate me, but I want to show everybody that I'm improving myself on every fight. Hopefully, I will get the title one day.

    MMA Spot: How does it feel to know you will be fighting on the main card in your home country?
    Siver: It makes me really proud that the UFC believes in me. Being on the main card is an honor for every fighter. And fighting in my home country motivates me even more to get the "Knockout Of The Night" bonus.

    MMA Spot: Will you have many people in the arena supporting you?
    Siver: I really hope so. All of my friends and training partners will be there to support me and the sport. Unfortunately, the sport is not accepted in Germany, there is a lot of bad press. But we are planning to promote and support the sport even more, to clarify. And hopefully, the UFC takes place in Germany soon again.

    MMA Spot: We have seen the growth of the sport in Ireland and England. Why has Germany not seen the same type of growth recently?
    Siver: Unfortunately, there are still bad rumors within the press that the sport is so violent and brutal. But there are MMA gyms that have opened in 2010. The sport is so great, even for managers or teachers. It is such a great workout for your body and mind. You don't have to fight in the cage, if you don't want to.

    MMA Spot: Do you look at yourself as an ambassador for MMA in Germany?
    Siver: Surveys have shown that I'm the most famous and successful German MMA fighter internationally. In some way, I see myself as an ambassador. That's the reason we are planning a promotional campaign in 2011, to support the sport in Germany.
    Siver,%20Denis%20%282%29.jpg

    check out the rest of the interview HERE


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 210 ✭✭TheProdigy


    Mellor wrote: »
    Hopefully it doesn't clash with Pac-Man & Margarito, I might even try get a stream for the Keith Jardine fight. Hope are low, at least its free to air

    I heard that event was postponed because it was in the Dominican Republic and they are avoiding a storm.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    unknown13 wrote: »
    The one on Kelly was nastier.

    Agree with this, the way Kelly just crumbles you know he's done for.

    I don't know much about the guy Siver is against, did someone say he is a boxer? If he is then I'd say this could be Fight of the Night


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    Mellor wrote: »
    Hopefully it doesn't clash with Pac-Man & Margarito

    UFC122 is from Germany & boxing is in Texas....hardly gonna be a clash with 7/8 hour time difference
    TheProdigy wrote: »
    I heard that event was postponed because it was in the Dominican Republic and they are avoiding a storm.

    Dec 11th I think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I don't know much about the guy Siver is against, did someone say he is a boxer? If he is then I'd say this could be Fight of the Night
    He was the winner of TUF9, pretty well known I would of thought
    Devastator wrote: »
    UFC122 is from Germany & boxing is in Texas....hardly gonna be a clash with 7/8 hour time difference

    Yeah, but i'm in Oz, so one may be on time delay, esp as its free to air

    i'll just check the tv guide now i suppose


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Mellor wrote: »
    He was the winner of TUF9, pretty well known I would of thought

    I don't usually watch TUF, I've seen a few episodes and didn't enjoy it too much.

    Sakara-Rivera should be pretty good too, I think this will be an event that's low on names but high on action


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭ondarack


    what time is the main event scheduled to be on? irish time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    ondarack wrote: »
    what time is the main event scheduled to be on? irish time

    Was actually wondering that myself. Surely not 2am seeing as it's in Germany.

    EDIT: 8pm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭magicspatula


    Anywhere around Dublin likely to show this? Would love to see it the pub.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Saturday is gonna be a beast!

    Forget that Pac v Margarito ballocks, we have one of the best UFC cards of all time and on the same night we have THE Heavyweight contest for the ages..... Haye v Harrison!

    I will be telling my grandkids about that one!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭sonic.trip


    I don't usually watch TUF, I've seen a few episodes and didn't enjoy it too much.

    Sakara-Rivera should be pretty good too, I think this will be an event that's low on names but high on action


    Andre Winner is a decent fighter, I think he will beat siver in this one and put a downer on those germans!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭Tones69


    Dunno who to go with, siver or winner, wanna say winner but think siver has a bit more in his game, fookit goin with winner :)

    Sadollah
    Winner
    Sakara
    Ksos
    Marquardt


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Oh_Noes


    Mellor wrote: »
    He was the winner of TUF9, pretty well known I would of thought

    Ross Peirson and James Wilkes were the winners of TUF.

    Unless you watch the reality show, then no, he's not well known.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    I was looking at the 'Pros Pick' article on Sherdog and it was 40-4 in favour of Marquardt, I would have thought it was a lot closer than that


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    Well the card just got worse


    BREAKING NEWS: MMAjunkie.com has confirmed with UFC officials that an illness has forced Alessio Sakara out of his co-main-event bout with Jorge Rivera. The fight has been scrapped from tonight's card. Ludwig vs. Osipczak has been promoted to the main card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 723 ✭✭✭ScareGilly


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Saturday is gonna be a beast!

    Forget that Pac v Margarito ballocks, we have one of the best UFC cards of all time and on the same night we have THE Heavyweight contest for the ages..... Haye v Harrison!

    I will be telling my grandkids about that one!

    I may be confused, but I'm guessing sarcasm? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Oh_Noes


    Great opening fight so far, considering this was bumped up from the undercard. The Brit (I can't spell his name) has some really nice elbows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    WTF's up wit Osipshak? Very weird on last round


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭stiffler123


    Anyone have a half decent stream? The one im watching has no sound and brutal quality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Oh_Noes


    Anyone have a half decent stream? The one im watching has no sound and brutal quality.

    Barely half decent but watchable:http://premier-games.net/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,708 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Anyone watching ESPN on HD? It seems very jittery.

    I doubt its UPC as the whole screen gets jittery except for the countdown timer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭Jayo_M


    http://tkohub.com/ufc-122-live-stream-online

    Not the greatest stream but consistent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    Where can I find prelim results?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭sockpuppets




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭stiffler123


    Thanks for the links lads, all are very watchable.


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  • Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's Irony that I finally get ESPN and am still using a stream thanks to this ****ing XFactor ****e!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    scudzilla wrote: »
    Well the card just got worse


    BREAKING NEWS: MMAjunkie.com has confirmed with UFC officials that an illness has forced Alessio Sakara out of his co-main-event bout with Jorge Rivera. The fight has been scrapped from tonight's card. Ludwig vs. Osipczak has been promoted to the main card.



    :(

    cheers for that, keeping turning it round between rounds so didn't know this


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Oh_Noes


    Joe Rogan has turned into a really annoying MMA version of Jimmy Hill. "You don't wanna do that, what you wanna do is..."

    Great fight though, would like to see [insert Polish name here] fighting someone bigger, I even think he would be a good matchup for Jardine if he was still around. Or Rampage if he loses to Machida.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,399 ✭✭✭sonic85


    joe rogan so bloody annoying. two decent fights so far


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Yeah, enjoyed that last fight, Soz always looks huge


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,399 ✭✭✭sonic85


    three good fights. amir has great stand up - always enjoy watching him fight


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Come on spinning back kick!


  • Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What flag did they have beside Winner in the tale of the tape?
    And would it not be better to put a German flag beside Siver's name for the crowd backing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Oh_Noes


    Very nice performance from Siver. Would like to see him fight some better competition. Probably Andre Winner's last fight in the UFC unless they're stuck for fighters on a European card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,399 ✭✭✭sonic85


    great finish! winner walked right into that hook


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