Emile Tiedt

themandan6611

while watching rhe rogan fight tonight I was thinking Emile isnt really that good, there was a point when rogie, not unlike him, was holding and hitting the bulgarian on thje back of the head (bout 3-4 punches) and emile warned the other lad :rolleyes:.

a bit of discussion bout it on eastside.

he seems, in the last number of years to be really biased to the home town fighter.

unknown13

Tiedt is an absolutely awful ref.

Big Ears

themandan6611 wrote: »

while watching rhe rogan fight tonight I was thinking Emile isnt really that good, there was a point when rogie, not unlike him, was holding and hitting the bulgarian on thje back of the head (bout 3-4 punches) and emile warned the other lad :rolleyes:.

a bit of discussion bout it on eastside.

he seems, in the last number of years to be really biased to the home town fighter.

While Tiedt can indeed be biased and isn't the greatest referee around he was right to warn Marinchev at the time he did, although he probably should have mentioned rabbit punching to Rogan at the same time. Marinchev was tying up and pushing his head into Rogan's trying to spoil and making no available(legal target), hence why Rogan's shots were landing round the back of the head.
If Marinchev wasn't pushing his head into Rogan's those shots would have caught him towards the front of his face.

It's a similar situation to when one fighter turns completely around and the other hits him with shots to the back of the head. Both men are breaking the rules.

unknown13

I must get the video of the Mike Perez -V- Jason Barrett fight from June in Cork. It will show how awful he actually is, he should have docked a point off Perez or even disqualify him in that fight. What did he do he waved the fight off for Barrett after he got hit when grounded by Perez.

unknown13

Mike Perez -V- Jason Barrett

barney4001

These visiting heavies are a real joke,just where do they get them from

I agree with you about tiedt:D

joepenguin

What's he to do when the guys are brought in to lose, sport a 4-25 record and lay down at the first chance and spoil until then. It must get annoying after of seeing this. As for Dunne - Machado it was harsh not giving Machado a round but even though it was close, Dunne did just enough every round so its one of those scores that dont tell the whole tail.
Will keep an eye out for the next competitive fight he refs and judge him on that.

megadodge

Big Ears wrote: »

While Tiedt can indeed be biased and isn't the greatest referee around he was right to warn Marinchev at the time he did, although he probably should have mentioned rabbit punching to Rogan at the same time. Marinchev was tying up and pushing his head into Rogan's trying to spoil and making no available(legal target), hence why Rogan's shots were landing round the back of the head.
If Marinchev wasn't pushing his head into Rogan's those shots would have caught him towards the front of his face.

It's a similar situation to when one fighter turns completely around and the other hits him with shots to the back of the head. Both men are breaking the rules.

While I admittedly only saw the incidents once, I did not notice Marinchev "pushing his head into Rogan's". You're making it sound something akin to a headbutt. His head was up close and to the side of Rogan's - ear to ear so-to-speak. That happens in every boxing match and is not a foul. If he was holding regularly then that's worth warning, but you're speaking as if the position of his head was the foul when it was fine from what I saw. However, Rogan's blatant punching to the back of the head went completely uncensored.

It was atrocious refereeing.

cowzerp

In Dunne's fights he would be laughing and acting like his pal when warning him in the ring, totally ridiculous stuff. and the way he moves around the ring is stupid too as he tries to be the center of attention IMO and its hard to watch the fighters when he is doing his funny moving around the ring..

Big Ears

megadodge wrote: »

While I admittedly only saw the incidents once, I did not notice Marinchev "pushing his head into Rogan's". You're making it sound something akin to a headbutt. His head was up close and to the side of Rogan's - ear to ear so-to-speak. That happens in every boxing match and is not a foul. If he was holding regularly then that's worth warning, but you're speaking as if the position of his head was the foul when it was fine from what I saw. However, Rogan's blatant punching to the back of the head went completely uncensored.

It was atrocious refereeing.

I originally felt it was Marinchev pushing(not striking, as a head-butt would be) his head directly into Rogan's, but from having rewatched the fight it's mainly from the left side of the head of both fighters that they're coming together.

I still feel Marinchev was being wreckless with his head and Tiedt was right to warm him, but Rogan should have incurred a talking to for rabbit punching.
Rogan was aiming his shots at the side of the head though, Marinchev was turning his head away and being the spoiler that he is, was probably looking for a referee warning or hoping that Rogan wouldn't throw.

Both men were guilt of wrong though. Of course the holding Marinchev was doing(which is what Tiedt actually warned him for) was pretty bad and I can understand why Tiedt asked him mid way through the fight if he actually wanted to box.

emileref

Thanks everybody for your imput i'll try to do better in future,maybe you could help by suggesting how i could referee,i would be happy to reply to your comments but i cant see your names.........Emile Tiedt

mikom

Emile, my girlfriend likes you if that's any consolation.

emileref

lol that helps thanks very much,god bless the girl

Wild_Dogger

emileref wrote: »

maybe you could help by suggesting how i could referee,.........Emile Tiedt

OK , try ignoring the crowd favouritism , prepare to accept boo's and criticism for applying the law equally

Ignore pressure from promotional interests to advance the backed fighter .

Thats about it really , ..... any more questions then give us a shout .

emileref

no prob,ill do everything on your list,thank you so much for your help,its so good to have a person like you watching out for our mistakes,and give me feedback so i can improve..i dont know your real name but thanks again.Emile Tiedt

Vintagekits

emileref wrote: »

no prob,ill do everything on your list,thank you so much for your help,its so good to have a person like you watching out for our mistakes,and give me feedback so i can improve..i dont know your real name but thanks again.Emile Tiedt

You sound a little defensive Emile.

p.s. Welcome to Boards

unknown13

Emile, the fans want the best fighter to be awarded the fight. We don't care if the better fighter has a 0-125 record and he is fighting the hometown fighter who is 20-0 and winning all the rounds clearly. Being fair is very much appreciated on the UK and Irish shores. We don't want you to make radical changes all we want you to do is to be fair.

themandan6611

will the real emile tiedt please stand up blah blah blah.

How to get better ? ask the memory man - he'll set you straight

Wild_Dogger

emileref wrote: »

i dont know your real name but thanks again.Emile Tiedt

I dont know anybody's real name here and I been writing for 4 years

You might get a more genuine response here than somebody saying it to your face to be honest .

I wouldnt say it to your face unless I knew you very well

But I did think some comments here were a bit harsh , and dont want to knock you too much as theres a lot you do very well that we're not talking about .

But One must be aware of the contoversy associated with an unpopular decision , wether it upsets the home fans , the commentators or the events promoters .

Purist fans will warm to unfavourable results once they are acurately administered decisions.

emileref

OK gents thanks for all that,i realy did'nt think i was an unfair ref? clearly some of you do,but thats ok because as a ref your never going to win,im sure there is a least 1 of you here that is a referee?so you will know what i'm talking about,but all fair comments,and then if guys like me did everything right all the time,what or who would you talk about,but if your talking about me your leaving somebody else alone lol,theres a show run by Dolphil in NBA friday week hope to see you all there................In boxing there will always be an unfavorable result for someone,I have a question,do you really think Irish fighters are matched fair

maxxie

emileref wrote: »

OK gents thanks for all that,i realy did'nt think i was an unfair ref? clearly some of you do,but thats ok because as a ref your never going to win,im sure there is a least 1 of you here that is a referee?so you will know what i'm talking about,but all fair comments,and then if guys like me did everything right all the time,what or who would you talk about,but if your talking about me your leaving somebody else alone lol,theres a show run by Dolphil in NBA friday week hope to see you all there................In boxing there will always be an unfavorable result for someone,I have a question,do you really think Irish fighters are matched fair

To answer your question! In most Irish promotions, absolutely not! Most guys who are brought in are punching bags with a name unpronouncable. For the purpose of the Irish fighter to get public exposure, ring time and a win! Obviously when they rise through the ranks this changes.

If you really are emile tiedt then you come from a great Irish boxing family so I would credit you with knowing a thing or two. Many of the guys who come here to fight are negative fighters which will make your job more difficult as they hold and hit in the clinches more than they fight.

I can honestly not think of a time when you gave the home fighter an unfair advantage.

Wild_Dogger

emileref wrote: »

I have a question,do you really think Irish fighters are matched fair

No . Hand picked under-weight opponents with tin-foil records are thrown in to take a hiding, a pay-cheque and sent back home again.

Its all part of the hype in promoting a fighter.

But what if one of these East European guys actually does come to fight ?
He wins a close decision in your mind but you know it wouldnt be the 'right' thing to award this bum the win .
Too much money pumped into the home fighter to give him a loss .

A tough choice to make ,..... and it may not help your career either should you go against the grain .
It puts you in a difficult position .

Anyway , dont take anything personally ... but if you're going broadcast on the public airwaves , you'll always get analysed in detail by discerning fans like me .