Mid Air Collision

bobblepuzzle

I really hope Russian pilots are now trained to obey TCAS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTXyxWl7p9k

Danbo!

The air traffic controller was later murdered by the husband/father of victims on the flight.

Grieved by the loss of his family, Vitaly Kaloyev held Peter Nielsen responsible for their deaths. He killed Nielsen at his Kloten home, near Zürich, on 24 February 2004.[20][16] Police arrested Kaloyev at a local motel not long after the murder, and he was subsequently convicted of the crime in 2005. He was released on 8 November 2007 because his mental condition was not sufficiently considered in the initial sentence. After his release, Kaloyev was infamously dubbed a "hero" in North Ossetia. In January 2008, he was appointed deputy construction minister of North Ossetia.[21]

EDIT: Why meh?

iPlop

Danbo! wrote: »

The air traffic controller was later murdered by the husband/father of victims on the flight.



EDIT: Why meh?

edit:I cannot find any source of this so will retract that statement ,I do remember the some of the families of the dead accusing him of it at the time ,probably all made up

ronnie3585

Sink The Banana wrote: »

That air traffic controller was a stoner.He had it coming IMO

WTF?

Have you any evidence of this?

iPlop

ronnie3585 wrote: »

WTF?

Have you any evidence of this?

I cannot find any source of this so will retract that statement ,I do remember the some of the families of the dead accusing him of it at the time ,probably all made up.

andy_g

This has become an interesting debate. I remember this happening. Initialy the report into the accident didnt mention that atc had the delay in their screens due to a service being carried out at the time.

Before the crash ever happend pilots both in Russia and Europe/the US were always trained to follow ATC instructions. After the crash was when the law and legislation changed that pilots should follow tcas instructions however that was 3 years later.

*mod hat on* Now unless there is factual evidence to support the stoner alugations.
Please respect the dead.
*mod hat off*

irish atco

andy_g wrote: »

Before the crash ever happend pilots both in Russia and Europe/the US were always trained to follow ATC instructions. After the crash was when the law and legislation changed that pilots should follow tcas instructions however that was 3 years later.

Just for clarification, the training given to Pilots in Europe/USA was before and remains afterwards to follow TCAS Instructions.

Any insinuation about the ATCO and narcotics (as quoted in reply #4 above) is boardering on libel, and I would respectfully request that any unsubstanciated nuance is completely removed from this thread.
Thank you

bobblepuzzle

apologies, video readded

bobblepuzzle

irish atco wrote: »

Just for clarification, the training given to Pilots in Europe/USA was before and remains afterwards to follow TCAS Instructions.

Any insinuation about the ATCO and narcotics (as quoted in reply #4 above) is boardering on libel, and I would respectfully request that any unsubstanciated nuance is completely removed from this thread.
Thank you

Libel laws in this country are a ****ing joke tbh

Foggy43

What are you lads on about. A game? Or an actual mid air collision where the air traffic controller was murdered by a relative of a person killed on the Russian plane?

I am referring to this http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6977136.stm

testicle

irish atco wrote: »

Any insinuation about the ATCO and narcotics (as quoted in reply #4 above) is boardering on libel, and I would respectfully request that any unsubstanciated nuance is completely removed from this thread.Thank you

You can not libel the dead, it is not legally possible.

irish atco

testicle wrote: »

You can not libel the dead, it is not legally possible.

I am aware of the law, but was essentialy asking that the ATCOs name not be dragged through the mud.
Thats why I used the term bordering.
The border in this example is the fact that he was murdered, and cannot defend his name against these stupid accusations.

cyrusdvirus

he's removed his comment, i think it should be let lie now