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ten apparent lies from the teaparty??

  • 06-11-2010 8:50pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭


    saw this article on another forum i frequent and was wondering about peoples opinions on it points to be made before opening

    1. i am well aware it is clearly written by the far lefts version of oreilly
    2. i amnt interested in the articles opinion only its 'facts'

    it obviously paints obama in a pretty good light and thats no suprise given the articles obvious bias but what i want to hear are the rights response to the facts contained in the article i really dont care about their response to the authors interspersed opinions as i dont care about his opinions either

    is everything in this article FACTUALLY incorrect or is there truth to what he is saying?

    http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/10-lessons-for-tea-baggers


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    So what you're asking before I open this is "how much of this do we think is bs"?

    I'll have a go.

    edit: I think I got about to point 3 before nausea set in. I would simply say this article is trying to respond to partisanship with more partisanship. The end result is making me motion sick. Duly ignore @_@


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    Overheal wrote: »
    So what you're asking before I open this is "how much of this do we think is bs"?

    I'll have a go.

    edit: I think I got about to point 3 before nausea set in. I would simply say this article is trying to respond to partisanship with more partisanship. The end result is making me motion sick. Duly ignore @_@

    pretty much what i expected but i do think that somethings mentioned are very simple to talk about, they are either true or not

    the particular things im talking about are
    Barack Obama in the stimulus package delivered on his pledge of tax relief for 95% of American households.
    ronald regan triple the national debt
    then george bush doubled it
    the economy always does better under democrats

    these things are either factually correct or they arent

    i left an obvious one out as i think we can all accept that barack obama is not a muslim :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I think that last point cant be factual, can it? Thats if they are claiming that the economy is always better off when a democratic government leaves power than when one enters it. Its also harder to measure that when you have to factor in a lot: Like who's the executive, who's in control of the house an senate, who is in control of the power of veto or veto override, etc.

    I don't think they can prove that empirically.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭scallioneater


    In my opinion, each of the ten points is accurate on face value and the author has sources and figures to back up each of his claims.

    The problem with this article lies not in the accuracy of the ten points. The problem with this article is that most of the points have nothing to do with the Tea Party movement. I would say that only point 1 ( Tax cutting) has to do with the main thrust of the Tea Party movement. The claim that the Democrats have reduced taxes for most Americans is accurate, but the obvious response from a Tea Party supporter would be that taxes have not been reduced enough.

    I suggest that the bias in this article lies not in the ten points, but in the suggestion that these are issues have something to do with the Tea Party movement.


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