Katharine Birbalsingh

Fuinseog

check out her speech on you tube. .

"Katharine Birbalsingh criticises failed education system"


hopefully her ideas will catch on here

Toto Wolfcastle

Link? Summary of what she says?

Fuinseog

janeybabe wrote: »

Link? Summary of what she says?

I am terrible with links. just type in her name on you tube and her eight minute speech, which cost her her job will appear.

essentially the leftist way of thinking, which started off with such good intentions is no longer doing the kids any favours. marxist theories of education, which formed a large part of the dip when I did it in Galway, are simply not working and now brave people such as Birbalsingh are arguing for a move away from this.

we must teach children responsibility and stop giving them excuses.

she was reviewed in The Sunday Times on 24.10

ytareh

Interesting and lots of valid points but would be wary of someone who seems so snugly 'in bed' with the Conservatives ...not that 'New Labour' didnt have their idiotic policies also ...most of which we seem to be pursuing at full pelt!Looks like this isnt the only country where the electorate are 'caught between a rock and a hard place'...The woman seems somewhat typical of a certain sort of(self serving)individual (no stranger to our native green shores either ) who is by no means a 'career' teacher (or even 'half career' !)but rather puts in a few years and then procceds to tell the rest of us how it should be done .If theyre that passionate about the whole darn thing why dont they just get on with it instead of talking about it !!!Ok so it would appear she was pressurised out of her post as a deputy principal but somehow (even with the promotion of her admirers at the Conservative conference) I cant see her in a school let alone teaching any time soon .Book in the pipeline...Give me the 'local legend ' who coaches the team or directs the musical and gets the best out of the kids year in year out for 3 or 4 decades any day over this sort .

Fuinseog

ytareh wrote: »

Interesting and lots of valid points but would be wary of someone who seems so snugly 'in bed' with the Conservatives ...not that 'New Labour' didnt have their idiotic policies also ...most of which we seem to be pursuing at full pelt!Looks like this isnt the only country where the electorate are 'caught between a rock and a hard place'...The woman seems somewhat typical of a certain sort of(self serving)individual (no stranger to our native green shores either ) who is by no means a 'career' teacher (or even 'half career' !)but rather puts in a few years and then procceds to tell the rest of us how it should be done .If theyre that passionate about the whole darn thing why dont they just get on with it instead of talking about it !!!Ok so it would appear she was pressurised out of her post as a deputy principal but somehow (even with the promotion of her admirers at the Conservative conference) I cant see her in a school let alone teaching any time soon .Book in the pipeline...Give me the 'local legend ' who coaches the team or directs the musical and gets the best out of the kids year in year out for 3 or 4 decades any day over this sort .

all this is quiet true. politics is politics. the Sunday Times had a good article on her. what i got out of it is our over willingness as a society to pander to kids with difficulties and how we support them in using their disorder as an excuse for everything.

ulysses32

This speech was amazing. I love the way they remastered the footage and gave it colour and that digital effect. Can't wait for the next episode of "Fascist Education in the 1930's".

This fabulous deputy Principal has dismissed the work of psychologists, sociologists and educationalists the world over as leftist and inconsequential liberal thinking. Wow!

She says "stand on your own two feet", take individual responsibility in a risk society, because you know that wealth, parenting, peers, race, disabilities etc are all so irrelevant in our world today.

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Fuinseog wrote: »

what i got out of it is our over willingness as a society to pander to kids with difficulties and how we support them in using their disorder as an excuse for everything.

Not really - we don't truly support them, we shove them through an education system that doesn't suit them. We tolerate them rather than pander to them.

Fuinseog

ulysses32 wrote: »

This speech was amazing. I love the way they remastered the footage and gave it colour and that digital effect. Can't wait for the next episode of "Fascist Education in the 1930's".

This fabulous deputy Principal has dismissed the work of psychologists, sociologists and educationalists the world over as leftist and inconsequential liberal thinking. Wow!

She says "stand on your own two feet", take individual responsibility in a risk society, because you know that wealth, parenting, peers, race, disabilities etc are all so irrelevant in our world today.

why is she a fascist?
maybe liberal thinking in education has past its sell by date.
it is time for individual responsibility. 'the world is aginst me beacuse I am black or working class' attitude is also over.
you seem to be arguing that if a black does not get on in life it is primarily because of their race.

ulysses32

Fuinseog wrote: »

why is she a fascist?
maybe liberal thinking in education has past its sell by date.
it is time for individual responsibility. 'the world is aginst me beacuse I am black or working class' attitude is also over.
you seem to be arguing that if a black does not get on in life it is primarily because of their race.

No, not because of race, gender, class, disability but because of how society conspires throughits institutions, often unconsciously, to create stratified cultural norms.

Our education system is a middle class system designed and perpetuated by middle class people for the benefit of middle class offspring. All others are told they are getting the same deal, however that does not seem to be the case.

How come schools in middle class areas outperform schools in working class areas?

Fuinseog

ulysses32 wrote: »

No, not because of race, gender, class, disability but because of how society conspires throughits institutions, often unconsciously, to create stratified cultural norms.

Our education system is a middle class system designed and perpetuated by middle class people for the benefit of middle class offspring. All others are told they are getting the same deal, however that does not seem to be the case.

How come schools in middle class areas outperform schools in working class areas?

true working class have to work harder, but it will benefit them more in the real world.
middle class parents are often more interested in their kids education that working class ones.

by the way do gooders and left wingers can also be positively racist.