Healy-Rae outlines price of support.

LarrytheLantern

Independent Kerry TD Jackie Healy-Rae today said a budgetary commitment for a Tralee bypass and funding for a Kenmare hospital were among "several things" the Government was required to follow through on to ensure his continued support.

"I will be looking for a commitment for the Tralee bypass. . . . I believe that the Tralee bypass is vital to be done, and we’ll have to get it done," he said during a radio interview today.

When questioned as to whether he would end his support for the budget if he were refused the project, Mr Healy-Rae said there was “no indication we are going to be refused”.

"I have a lot of other things cooking at the present time," the TD said referring to other pledges he was seeking in relation to Kerry.

He added his son, Cllr Michael Healy-Rae , would be meeting Minister for Finance Brian Lenihan soon.

The support of Mr Healy Rae is contingent on the Government honouring the deal he entered into with it, according to Michael.

The recent resignation of Donegal TD Jim McDaid has left the Government at the mercy of two Independents to get one of the toughest budgets in the State’s history through the Dáil.

With the departure of Dr McDaid the Coalition’s Dáil majority is now 82 to 79 for the combined Opposition. That majority includes the two Independent TDs, Michael Lowry and Mr Healy-Rae.

Earlier this week, Mr Lowry said there was now a serious danger that the budget would not be passed. “Obviously Jackie Healy-Rae’s and my support is now more crucial than it has been in the past, but in my mind all of the time is that the country is on the brink of losing its economic independence,” he said.

Biggins

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=68848150&postcount=24

gandalf

/facepalm!

This is exactly the reason we are in the mess we are in. And I agree given the problems we are having why is our Minister for Finance meeting a gombeen councillor. We need a list system quickly to consign gombeen politicians to the dustbin of history.

Fo Real

Jackie Healy Rae is possibly the most despicable character in the Dáil. He is holding the country to ransom over his local pet project. He is obviously a man of no principles or morals, as he is easily bought by FF's dirty money. His demand of a hospital for Kenmare (population of 1701, according to the CSO) is just selfish and makes no economic sense. He regularly tops the list for expenses claims.

I'm just thankful he isn't running in the next general election. It's in the national interest that the people of South Kerry do not elect his son in his place. Let's put an end to this gombeen dynasty. South Kerry, and Ireland, deserve better.

padma

Why would Tralee need a bypass?, to where Dingle? it's already got that circular route.

Riskymove

Fo Real wrote: »

It's in the national interest that the people of South Kerry do not elect his son in his place. Let's put an end to this gombeen dynasty. South Kerry, and Ireland, deserve better.

you think that he delivers all these things in the worst economic time for Ireland and they wont vote for them?

they'll probably get more votes than ever before.

Biggins

Fo Real wrote: »

Jackie Healy Rae is possibly the most despicable character in the Dáil. He is holding the country to ransom over his local pet project. He is obviously a man of no principles or morals, as he is easily bought by FF's dirty money. His demand of a hospital for Kenmare (population of 1701, according to the CSO) is just selfish and makes no economic sense. He regularly tops the list for expenses claims.

I'm just thankful he isn't running in the next general election. It's in the national interest that the people of South Kerry do not elect his son in his place. Let's put an end to this gombeen dynasty. South Kerry, and Ireland, deserve better.

Just a damn pity his son is running probably - and even worse, will probably be elected to carry on the same antics.

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The other sad part if that the by-pass will effect many a small town that will then be further effected by less traffic passing through it!
Building by-passes are not always a good thing and Tralee might learn that too late as other towns in the country have found out already.
Coming at a time of even worsening state of affairs, this less business (thru traffic) might be just what is NOT needed in Tralee

...But will the dozing voting sheep see that?

Unpossible

padma wrote: »

Why would Tralee need a bypass?, to where Dingle? it's already got that circular route.

As I understand it, its to link the castleisland/killarney road to the listowel road. It does seem kind of pointless though, as is his idea of a hospital in Kenmare (perhaps he meant a clinic? ). I'm living in Tralee and although these things would create jobs here and in south Kerry, it really is parocial politics at its worst and is the kind of thing that needs to be stamped out. Besides lets see how far that hospital gets next year when we go cap in hand to the EU fund.

Edit: I could be completly wrong about the road route btw.

amacachi

Fcuk it, promise it to him, get the next two budgets through then laugh at him.

Liam Byrne

LarrytheLantern wrote: »

"I have a lot of other things cooking at the present time," the TD said referring to other pledges he was seeking in relation to Kerry.

He added his son, Cllr Michael Healy-Rae , would be meeting Minister for Finance Brian Lenihan soon.

How often do county councillors get to meet the Minister for Finance ? :eek:

Flimbos

Riskymove wrote: »

you think that he delivers all these things in the worst economic time for Ireland and they wont vote for them?

they'll probably get more votes than ever before.

Unfortunately, Healy-Rae Senior/ Junior (whoever runs) will more than likely get elected.

But... hopefully whoever is running the country after the election will have a strong enough majority and not have to depend on these parasites.

l3m0n5

The Healy-Rae really annoy the F out of me and make me ashamed to say i'm from Kerry. But they will get voted in again not because of the Kenmare hospital or the Tralee by pass but because they will promise to fix the pot holes or cut the hedges near your house.

I think us Kerry people need to wake up.

transylman

The son (start of the video) comes across as even more of a yokel than the father.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PYbIGmQFLY

Mr.Micro

With a bit of luck even if the baldy leprechaun gets his assurance with a by pass a new Government will renege due to costs and cuts. Some patriot.

Biggins

Mr.Micro wrote: »

With a bit of luck even if the baldy leprechaun gets his assurance with a by pass a new Government will renege due to costs and cuts. Some patriot pillock.

You spelt that last word wrong.

(I agree with you anyway)

Scrambled egg

Its stories like this that upset me and make the baby Jesus cry and generally it represents one of the biggest problems with the political system in this country as a whole. Our politics are out of date IMO. They belong to an older generation where this sort of madness was acceptable. But we understand now how out of order our country is , that we can't tolerate this sort of nonsense much longer.

This TD does not have the best interests of the country at heart. His actions show us that his only interest is in furthering his own position and that of his son by holding the government to ransom to ensure re-election.

Heres hoping that if the government don't cave into his demands (which they will) , and the budget fails to pass , that in the ensuing general election , this man is thrown out of office. He symbolizes everything that is wrong with the parish/constituency mentality.

LarrytheLantern

Our economy is in shreds, the ECB/IMF are knocking at the door & we are being held to ransom by this gombeen eejit & his half-wit son.

Did you ever wonder where & why Paddy-idiot jokes surfaced?
Surely we deserve to be the laughing stock of Europe?

All pride has been extinguished.

I want to emigrate & raise my children elsewhere.:o

dan_d

Listening to his son on the radio this evening, the by-pass is apparently needed to entice some drugs company to Tralee. They're apparently insisting this by-pass be built. Apparently some other road in the area was built because the same drugs company insisted on it.So he was very much on the "job creation" bandwagon.

I don't know whether this drugs company actually exist or not, but I find it extremely difficult to believe that they've demanded a by pass be built, it was built, and they are now demanding another by-pass, and not moving in until they get it. How long have they been on the scene looking to move into Tralee for? The last 3-4 years? I seriously doubt any drugs company hangs around waiting like that.

Furthermore, he kept talking about this "agreement my father has with the current Government". The "agreement" has been honoured all along, and when the "agreement" was made,certain things were decided and given a time-line as part of the "agreement".

Sounds like the whole thing was done in the back of a pub after a few drinks one evening, without politicians realising the JHR was recording the whole conversation or something.

Seriously. How brass a neck do you have to have to go around saying things like you're putting a price on your support? Bigger picture here.

southsiderosie

Reason #4,586 why Ireland needs a national list system for elections.

bleg

dan, they're talking about some non existent R&D campus in Tralee. They plan to make it a centre of excellence. There is not a hope of that happening. Not in Tralee anyway.

I can assure you that any pharmaceutical company that would be setting up an R&D facility would do it in one of the major cities that has a university.

He's talking through his arse.

ballsymchugh

agree with the above. promise it to him and renege. you can't keep promises if you've been voted out a few months later anyway.

and can someone please tell me, what's wrong with just one surname anyway?

bleg

bleg wrote: »

dan, they're talking about some non existent R&D campus in Tralee. They plan to make it a centre of excellence. There is not a hope of that happening. Not in Tralee anyway.

I can assure you that any pharmaceutical company that would be setting up an R&D facility would do it in one of the major cities that has a university.

He's talking through his arse.

This is the crowd pushing it: http://pharmadel.ie/

They don't even have any products, they're a distribution firm.
They employ 12 people.
Tralee has no pedigree, no university and no major hospital for large scale clinical trials.
Global pharmaceutical R&D budgets are being cut heavily.


So let me get this straight, a 12 person strong courier company expects to open a R&D centre of excellence in 3 years, in a town with no port, no univerisity and no history of pharmaceutical R&D or production, employing 4,000 people, backed by Saudis.

If you believe that I have an investment opportunity for you in another Irish company that promised the world: www.steorn.ie

Edit: Forgot, the Saudis won't invest unless Tralee gets a by-pass.

Long Term Louth

The cheek of him, wanting things for his community! and using his barganing power to get it.

nesf

I find it amusing that people hate him for doing exactly what he was voted for to do. Do you think he'd be voted in if he didn't try and get everything he could out of the Government for his local area? It's annoying as **** that he gets away with it if you're not from the area but meh, that's politics.

Biggins

Long Term Louth wrote: »

The cheek of him, wanting things for his community! and using his barganing power to get it.

nesf wrote: »

I find it amusing that people hate him for doing exactly what he was voted for to do. Do you think he'd be voted in if he didn't try and get everything he could out of the Government for his local area? It's annoying as **** that he gets away with it if you're not from the area but meh, that's politics.

I can acknowledge his reasoning for doing what he is doing but in having his vote bought for the sake of a road for example, that one vote purchased can and has effected everything from national budgets to funding for Crumlins Childrens hospital - and that I feel is a disgusting use/abuse of national representation that he should be doing instead of just shoring up bad decisions sometimes because he's been bought!

There is a thing called "integrity" - and his antics are not full if it!

ballsymchugh

nesf wrote: »

I find it amusing that people hate him for doing exactly what he was voted for to do. Do you think he'd be voted in if he didn't try and get everything he could out of the Government for his local area? It's annoying as **** that he gets away with it if you're not from the area but meh, that's politics.

it's what's wrong with politics. he's voted to the national legislative assembly and his voting pattern on national issues depend totally on a local hospital and a by-pass. if the government announced that legislation was to be put before the Dail on outlawing and exiling the Healy-Rae family, and would promise the hospital if he voted for it, then i'd totally support his decisions.

Long Term Louth

Biggins wrote: »

I can acknowledge his reasoning for doing what he is doing but in having his vote bought for the sake of a road for example, that one vote purchased can and has effected everything from national budgets to funding for Crumlins Childrens hospital - and that I feel is a disgusting use/abuse of national representation that he should be doing instead of just shoring up bad decisions sometimes because he's been bought!

There is a thing called "integrity" - and his antics are not full if it!

What about the integrity of those elected to run the country, and their disgusting abuse/use of power, should'nt they have done their jobs? Healey-Raes vote would be unimportant if they had, and regardless of his trivial antics, he does put his constituency first. The government knew who and what they were incorporating when they initially required his support.

flutered

my flys on the corridors of leinster house tell me that the knife sharpeners have been hired, but not all of them are working on the budget day axe, heads are been counted, also canvassing is been carried out.

bleg

Long Term Louth wrote: »

What about the integrity of those elected to run the country, and their disgusting abuse/use of power, should'nt they have done their jobs? Healey-Raes vote would be unimportant if they had, and regardless of his trivial antics, he does put his constituency first. The government knew who and what they were incorporating when they initially required his support.

He puts Jackie Healy Rae first. I can only hope that the people that elected him did so out of some sort of nostalgia. Hopefully his son won't get in the next time.

The members of the Cabinet have no integrity or ethics as far as I can see. You're right, they are abusing power but let's not side track this thread into that territory, there are plenty of others in which to vent about that shower.

Long Term Louth

bleg wrote: »

Scumbag.

I am sorry I didnt realise the sites intention was to lambast him.

Biggins

Long Term Louth wrote: »

I am sorry I didnt realise the sites intention was to lambast him.

He doesn't need here to do that. He's his own worst enemy.

Long Term Louth

Biggins wrote: »

He doesn't need here to do that. He's his own worst enemy.

Listen I am not saying or never said I agree with him, but if the priority of all those in power was to benefit their community, perhaps we would not be in the current difficulty.

Mr.Micro

Its ironic the likes of Healy-Rae who belongs in the age of the "Bull McCabe" can hold the Government to ransom (and 6 Billion of tax hikes/cuts on the way) to demand a by-pass. Has he thought of going to his GP, who I am sure would refer him to have one. He thinks he is so clever when it was luck that he holds casting vote for this incompetent Government....depending on this mercenary just emphasizes it.

Biggins

Long Term Louth wrote: »

What about the integrity of those elected to run the country, and their disgusting abuse/use of power, shouldn't they have done their jobs?

Well seeing as he is one of those elected to the Dail at national level - that principle still applies to him too!

Long Term Louth wrote: »

...regardless of his trivial antics, he does put his constituency first. The government knew who and what they were incorporating when they initially required his support.

1. His antics shouldn't be of 'dis-regardless' status or just passed off as "regardless of..."
2. His antics are most certainly NOT trivial for god sake! :mad:
3. They didn't initially require his support - they bought his continuous support - and they are still doing so!

He a disgrace and I had the experience of being in the Dail over two full days, to personally witness how much this one disgusting piece of dirt, could and did stoop so low!

Biggins

Long Term Louth wrote: »

Listen I am not saying or never said I agree with him, but if the priority of all those in power was to benefit their community, perhaps we would not be in the current difficulty.

When your elected to the Dail your not just elected to represent your own area, your there also in the national interest of all!

Long Term Louth

Biggins wrote: »

Well seeing as he is one of those elected to the Dail at national level - that principle still applies to him too!



1. His antics shouldn't be dis-regardless or just passed off as "regardless of..."
2. His antics are most certainly NOT trivial for god sake! :mad:
3. They didn't initially require his support - they bought his continuous support - and they are still doing so!

He a disgrace and I had the experience of being in the Dail over two full days, to personally witness how much this one disgusting piece of dirt, could and did stoop so low!

I dont follow number 1.

A new road is trivial when compared to the state the banks were allowed to get into.
Didnt they need his support to form a government? (perhaps I am incorrect),

Long Term Louth

Biggins wrote: »

When your elected to the Dail your not just elected to represent your own area, your there also in the national interest of all!

I agree, just posed a question.

Biggins

Long Term Louth wrote: »

I dont follow number 1.

You said "regardless of..."
His antics shouldn't be minimised in the terms of "regardless" for his representation of the public in the Dail is no small matter at any time, either is any of his subsequent actions.

A small write-up of just two days of his antics alone (besides others) where he got a mention:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=60857305&postcount=413

It appeared as it is written, in the national press, the next day.

Long Term Louth

Biggins wrote: »

You said "regardless of..."
His antics shouldn't be minimised in the terms of "regardless" for his representation of the public in the Dail is no small matter at any time, either is any of his subsequent actions.

No instead use, " this one disgusting piece of dirt " problem solved.

Biggins

Long Term Louth wrote: »

No instead use, " this one disgusting piece of dirt " problem solved.

Its an opinion, not a disregarding of any of his actions.
Just an opinion of the man and the price of his vote - even if that flies in the face of national interest!

Long Term Louth

Biggins wrote: »

Its an opinion, not a disregarding of any of his actions.
Just an opinion of the man and the price of his vote - even if that flies in the face of national interest!

Opinions I respect, name calling rather than action I oppose.

Biggins

Long Term Louth wrote: »

Opinions I respect, name calling rather than action I oppose.

Well in my case, by god I have done both and will continue to do so.
Not just in the name of my daughter on which a national campaign was based around but in the national interest of all the nations children!

..And if that waster O'Rea crosses my path yet again, I will still have yet more than a few cross words for him.
My actions will be peaceful but the words won't be reserved or silent!

He is a disgrace, thru and thru!

Liam Byrne

Long Term Louth wrote: »

A new road is trivial when compared to the state the banks were allowed to get into.
Didnt they need his support to form a government? (perhaps I am incorrect),

The new road is also trivial compared to NAMA & Anglo, both of which Healy-Rae supported.

So what's your point ?

CoalBucket

I'll build the hospital for him myself if he votes against the government

Long Term Louth

Liam Byrne wrote: »

The new road is also trivial compared to NAMA & Anglo, both of which Healy-Rae supported.

So what's your point ?

My inital comment,

What about the integrity of those elected to run the country, and their disgusting abuse/use of power, should'nt they have done their jobs? Healey-Raes vote would be unimportant if they had, and regardless of his trivial antics, he does put his constituency first. The government knew who and what they were incorporating when they initially required his support.

Liam Byrne

Long Term Louth wrote: »

My inital comment,

What about the integrity of those elected to run the country, and their disgusting abuse/use of power, should'nt they have done their jobs? Healey-Raes vote would be unimportant if they had, and regardless of his trivial antics, he does put his constituency first. The government knew who and what they were incorporating when they initially required his support.

Irrelevant.

Healy-Rae CHOSE to support those, and will be judged accordingly.

And in case you hadn't noticed, Healy-Rae was elected to run the country.

Long Term Louth

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Irrelevant.

Healy-Rae CHOSE to support those, and will be judged accordingly.

And in case you hadn't noticed, Healy-Rae was elected to run the country.

All alone?

Irrelevant to your comment but not to those before your input.

Liam Byrne

Long Term Louth wrote: »

All alone?

Don't be ridiculous.

Your post suggested that he wasn't, and that he was elected to "look after his constituency"; you asked what "those elected to run the country" were doing. You said :

Long Term Louth wrote: »

What about the integrity of those elected to run the country, and their disgusting abuse/use of power,

I was merely pointing out that Healy-Rae is INCLUDED in those.

Biggins

Long Term Louth wrote: »

All alone?

Certainly not alone. Its a question that doesn't need an answer - for the answer is obvious.
However, his long term vote has been bought for a smaller number of local issues versus many, many daily/weekly national issues which should take precedence.

Long Term Louth

As I stated,

The government knew who and what they were incorporating when they initially required his support.

Biggins

Long Term Louth wrote: »

As I stated,

The government knew who and what they were incorporating when they initially required his support.

Even if that was and still is true, that don't take away from the quality of the man (very poor in my own opinion) and the ongoing quality of his actions or purchase price!