Thoughts Please . . .

one ill cat

My boyfriend & I play a fair bit of golf, he loves playing competitions & I really enjoy team competitions in particular.
There was an email sent out from out golf club regarding a 2 person team event a few months back so my boyfriend & I entered.
Bar a small few bad holes we both played well & finished on 43 points.
We left our cards in & had a chat with the guy behind the desk regarding what other scores there were in. At that point we were leading.
The guy explained it was a qualifier for a bigger competition, originally they had hoped to get enough entries to put forward 2 teams, however it was now looking like only one team would go through to Dublin finals.
There were a few more cards still to come in so we were left to wait for the weekly Monday email with the competition results.
No email was sent out on the Monday, nothing out on the Tuesday or the Wednesday - the truth is no email was ever sent regarding that competition.
We chased up the results every time we were in the pro shop, & had to ask on several different occasions before they actually had an answer, the answer being we were pipped into 2nd. They couldn't provide the winners' names or even the winning score 'off the top of their head'.

The competition in question was for the Holmpatrick Cup & I have very recently stumbled across something online to strongly suggest that this Cup is a male only event.

I've not actually played golf these last few days & have yet to mention it to my golf club.

Can anyone confirm if this is a male only event?
And if it is, any advice on how to handle it?
A few of my golfing friends are fairly disgusted by it and think I should go to the GUI/ILGU about it directly. All advice welcome.

dnjoyce

If it is a male only comp, why would you go to the GUI/ILGU about an error that your own club made in allowing you to compete in it in the first place and why are some of your golfing friends "disgusted" by this

darraghjm

The holmpatrick cup is run by the NCBI, so why not get in contact with them
http://www.ncbi.ie/support-us/holmpatrick-cup
I played in it this year, we won our county and went on to the lenister final but came no where on the day, I think the teams in the Lenister final were all male but I can't be 100% as I didnt see all the teams

ozymandias10

your issue is with your club not the holmpatrick cup (NCBI). the club should know what the format of the competition is. Are you annoyed if it is an all male competition that ladies should be allowed ? If so aren't there alot of competitions and team events that are only for ladies as well. Or are you annoyed with your club for accepting your entry. Also only one pair can qualify from each club not two. The club cannot decide to send two

Jul3s

It says "Mens" on top of the entry form Cat, unfourtunately it looks like your club made an error in allowing you to enter in the first place, they could have handle it better by been up front and honest with you as soon as they realised their error, but other than an apology from them I really don't see what more can or should be done, it seems like it was an honest mistake.

G1032

ozymandias10 wrote: »

your issue is with your club not the holmpatrick cup (NCBI). the club should know what the format of the competition is. Are you annoyed if it is an all male competition that ladies should be allowed ? If so aren't there alot of competitions and team events that are only for ladies as well. Or are you annoyed with your club for accepting your entry. Also only one pair can qualify from each club not two. The club cannot decide to send two

I think it's fairly clear that this lady and her boyfried won the competition and she is not asking that her club send two teams.
'One ill cat' wants her club to show a bit of transperancy and decency and own up to the fact they made a mistake in allowing her to play in the mens only competition. Sounds like they are cowards, just hoping this will all go away if they ignore it. How hard is it to send out the competition results as normal and tell 'one ill cat' and her boyfriend that a mistake has been made and they have to send the 2nd placed team through to the next round?

one ill cat

Firstly, let me clarify that I'm in no way annoyed with anyone to do with the Holmpatrick Cup itself, imo this clearly has no bearing on the Holmpatrick Cup.

I'm also not annoyed in the slightest that it's a male only event, I imagine there are plenty of female only events out there too.

The extent of this problem lies solely within my own golf club & their lack of disclosure.

They had plenty of opportunity to refund entry fees & hold their hands up before now. Up until the end of the Summer, we played golf there 3-4 times per week, they wouldn't even have had to lift the phone.
I guess I always assumed a golf club would have more ethics.

The reason that a few friends think so badly of this is that it's bad enough to make a mistake, given it's their business to know, but even worse to not put it right.

My boyfriend actually thought at the time there was something strange going on, given there was no email ever sent out disclosing the results of the competition & that it took them several days to count up the cards. Yet, even though they knew he was seeking answers, the continually fobbed him off hoping he'd go away.

Tbh a few things have happened since this that make me question the integrity of the club. Their unethical behaviour is not an isolated incident.
I've read this forum for a few months now & not really posted. But from what I have read, I always felt it was a decent place to get some sound advice.

ozymandias10

When I mentioned about the club only being allowed to send one team I wasn't suggesting that OP wanted to go as a second team. I was refering to the pro shop telling them they had hoped to send two teams but may now only be able to send one highlighting another issue with the club.. I wasn't having a go with the OP just trying to get clarity. Her club has acted without integrity here and that is wrong...The club should have admitted their mistake and given the OP and partner a consolation prize....When the OP mentioned contacting the GUI/ILGUI I thought it was about the Holmpatrick cup..however now I see it is to do with the actions of the club....Your first port of call should be a letter to the committee before you seek out the GUI

ipitydafool

ozymandias10 wrote: »

When I mentioned about the club only being allowed to send one team I wasn't suggesting that OP wanted to go as a second team. I was refering to the pro shop telling them they had hoped to send two teams but may now only be able to send one highlighting another issue with the club.. I wasn't having a go with the OP just trying to get clarity. Her club has acted without integrity here and that is wrong...The club should have admitted their mistake and given the OP and partner a consolation prize....When the OP mentioned contacting the GUI/ILGUI I thought it was about the Holmpatrick cup..however now I see it is to do with the actions of the club....Your first port of call should be a letter to the committee before you seek out the GUI

Would have to agree with you 100% here ozy. The club seem to have acted totally unprofessional in the situation. If you make an error be honest about it and don't try and fob someone off. Definitely send in a letter to the competition's committee of the club for explanation especially if as you say in your last post this isn't an isolated incident with them.