Pink footed Geese protected species.....

Feargal as Luimneach

Just to let people know Pink footed geese are a protected species in Ireland and cannot be shot. They occur in small numbers in Ireland, usually only 40-60 birds (numbers vary however). They are common winter visitor in the Uk and shooting is legal there. Please do not shoot them in this country. Confusion can occur with Greylags
http://www.lloydspitalnikphotos.com/d/5329-3/pink-footed_goose_F5R7843.jpg

Hunting Seasons for Wild Birds and Wild Mammals

2009 - 2010

SPECIES

OPEN SEASON

Red Grouse

1 September to 30 September

Mallard, Teal, Gadwall, Wigeon, Pintail, Shoveller, Scaup, Tufted Duck, Pochard, Goldeneye, Golden Plover, Snipe, Jack Snipe

1 September to 31 January

Ruddy Duck

1 September to 31 January

Red-legged Partridge

1 November to 31 January

Cock Pheasant

1 November to 31 January

Woodcock

1 November to 31 January

Curlew

1 November to 30 November

Canada Geese (Countrywide)

1 September to 15 October

Canada Geese (Counties Cavan and Leitrim only) and excluding the following townlands: Eonish Island, Rinn and Deramfield (Cavan) and tahe River Shannon (Leitrim)

16 October to 31 January

Greylag Geese (Countrywide)

1 September to 15 October

Greylag Geese (Lady's Island, Co. Wexford and Gearagh East Gearagh West in Co. Cork only

16 October to 31 January

Wood pigeon

1 November to 31 January

Eddie B

The goose season is well over before there's a sign of any geese in the midlands,:( so i won't have to worry about any mistaken identity!

Birdnuts

This is an interesting list and throws up a few dilemmas for the laymen along the lines of "How can you tell what species a certain bird is at a shooting distance ie. whether its on the list or not??" Eg. Pink-Footed Goose from a Greylag or Garganey from a female Mallard etc.

PS: i see that Jack Snipe are on the list - that is some challenge for a sportman given how trickey it is to nail their bigger cousin:cool:

greenpeter

Is there a sticky on this topic?
This list should be top of the hunting form

Vegeta

All the Wildlife Act Legislation is stuck at the top of the forum

Grizzly 45

Birdnuts wrote: »

This is an interesting list and throws up a few dilemmas for the laymen along the lines of "How can you tell what species a certain bird is at a shooting distance ie. whether its on the list or not??" Eg. Pink-Footed Goose from a Greylag or Garganey from a female Mallard etc.

Fairly simple.Post up the black flight silouthe[sic] of the birds as if you were looking up at them.Same trick they use to teach fighter pilots to ID friend or foe at visual range.

Feargal as Luimneach

It's sometimes not a simple case of misidentification. People shoot Pink footed geese and they seem not to know there protected.

Feargal as Luimneach

Vegeta wrote: »

All the Wildlife Act Legislation is stuck at the top of the forum

You would be half the day reading through that. Why not have a sticky of the list of birds and mammals that can be shot? Something simple!

Vegeta

Feargal as Luimneach wrote: »

You would be half the day reading through that. Why not have a sticky of the list of birds and mammals that can be shot? Something simple!

Because if we put up a sticky of everything that people suggested the whole front page would be stickies.

It is there, if people are too lazy to read it they are to lazy to properly identify legal quarry.

landkeeper

at the risk of stating the obvious if people don't know what they should or shouldn't shoot then they shouldn't be out doing it :eek: quarry identification should be paramount in peoples thoughts whilst shooting 'if in doubt don't ' was what i had drummed into me a a young fella

marlin vs

Eddie B wrote: »

The goose season is well over before there's a sign of any geese in the midlands,:( so i won't have to worry about any mistaken identity!

Same here,the greylag are only arriving now,but plenty of Brent here.

Half-cocked

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Fairly simple.Post up the black flight silouthe[sic] of the birds as if you were looking up at them.Same trick they use to teach fighter pilots to ID friend or foe at visual range.

And open your ears too! A lot of water fowl can be ID'd by their calls.

bibio

Hi Fergal,

Just in relation to your previous post "
It's sometimes not a simple case of misidentification. People shoot Pink footed geese and they seem not to know there protected."

Interested to know, where you have come across people shooting pinkfeet in Ireland illegally, I hope you are basing this on specifics and not rumour, I moticed your OP was timed after seeing a picture of Marlin's shot pinkfoot in the birdwatching forum, and you were querying where is was shot and then started this thread in the hunting forum. Marlin goose was legally shot in scotland.

Rgds
Bibio

Feargal as Luimneach

bibio wrote: »

Hi Fergal,

Just in relation to your previous post "
It's sometimes not a simple case of misidentification. People shoot Pink footed geese and they seem not to know there protected."

Interested to know, where you have come across people shooting pinkfeet in Ireland illegally, I hope you are basing this on specifics and not rumour, I moticed your OP was timed after seeing a picture of Marlin's shot pinkfoot in the birdwatching forum, and you were querying where is was shot and then started this thread in the hunting forum. Marlin goose was legally shot in scotland.

Rgds
Bibio

I know of a pink-footed goose that was shot (misidentification). The lad who shot the goose is a decent fella and felt quite bad about it, especially when he found out there rare/very uncommon in this country. Marlin's photos reminded me of this incident and that is the reason I posted the thread. A good way of perhaps preventing it happening again.

I don't know whether this happens (correct me if I'm wrong), but everybody who shoots IMO should be given lessons in bird identification. Wildfowlers especially, should be able to identify all aspects of quarry plumage including male/female/juvenile/eclipse plumage. They should know the bird calls. They should be able to identify all similar non-quarry species. They should be adept at identification from silhouette.


I asked Marlin where the goose was shot to make sure it wasn't shot in Ireland. Had I suspicions about the goose? Yes I did, just as you have suspicions on why I started this thread!

Tackleberrywho

Feargal as Luimneach wrote: »

I know of a pink-footed goose that was shot (misidentification). The lad who shot the goose is a decent fella and felt quite bad about it, especially when he found out there rare/very uncommon in this country. Marlin's photos reminded me of this incident and that is the reason I posted the thread. A good way of perhaps preventing it happening again.

I don't know whether this happens (correct me if I'm wrong), but everybody who shoots IMO should be given lessons in bird identification. Wildfowlers especially, should be able to identify all aspects of quarry plumage including male/female/juvenile/eclipse plumage. They should know the bird calls. They should be able to identify all similar non-quarry species. They should be adept at identification from silhouette.


I asked Marlin where the goose was shot to make sure it wasn't shot in Ireland. Had I suspicions about the goose? Yes I did, just as you have suspicions on why I started this thread!

Ah now Feargal, you arte hardly trolling the hunting forum??
You dismiss Hunters as been unable to make a judgement calls.
Any hunters I know (which is a lot) know more about bird/animal locating and identification thae the "lay" people

marlin vs

Feargal as Luimneach wrote: »

I asked Marlin where the goose was shot to make sure it wasn't shot in Ireland. Had I suspicions about the goose? Yes I did.

I asked could anyone identify a different bird than the pinkfoot on the nature & birdwatching forum , and that's where it should have stayed ,you shouldn't be so suspicious of people,i'm glad I didn't post a picture of a kangaroo or you might think I frequent disco's.:DI think we all know the season for geese,i'm waiting on a reply to my question from birdwatch ireland and appreciate all answers.No harm done.

Feargal as Luimneach

marlin vs wrote: »

I asked could anyone identify a different bird than the pinkfoot on the nature & birdwatching forum , and that's where it should have stayed ,you shouldn't be so suspicious of people,i'm glad I didn't post a picture of a kangaroo or you might think I frequent disco's.:DI think we all know the season for geese,i'm waiting on a reply to my question from birdwatch ireland and appreciate all answers.No harm done.

I doubted you (I trust nobody except my terrier). You doubted me when I said the bird was a juvenile wigeon. We're even now I'd say:D

Feargal as Luimneach

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Ah now Feargal, you arte hardly trolling the hunting forum??
You dismiss Hunters as been unable to make a judgement calls.
Any hunters I know (which is a lot) know more about bird/animal locating and identification thae the "lay" people

Harsh Tackleberrywho, Are we not all friends on this forum?

Tackleberrywho

Feargal as Luimneach wrote: »

Harsh Tackleberrywho, Are we not all friends on this forum?

I have a few friends on this forum.
All of them I have shot with.



However you occasionaly appear to run with the hare and hunt with the hound.

This is a hunting forum and you say you don't hunt?
I can understand why others would be confused at the justification of some threads........

pedroeibar1

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Fairly simple.Post up the black flight silouthe[sic] of the birds as if you were looking up at them.Same trick they use to teach fighter pilots to ID friend or foe at visual range.

Quarry identification always has been a problem. During the WW2 Normandy campaign, the squaddies had a saying about the Luftwaffe, RAF and USAF, ‘If it is grey we duck, if it is brown the Germans duck and if it is silver everybody ducks.’;)
P.

marlin vs

Feargal as Luimneach wrote: »

I doubted you (I trust nobody except my terrier). You doubted me when I said the bird was a juvenile wigeon. We're even now I'd say:D

I know but you'r doubt casted me in a bad light, but we'll leave it at that.

Feargal as Luimneach

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

I have a few friends on this forum.
All of them I have shot with.



However you occasionaly appear to run with the hare and hunt with the hound.

This is a hunting forum and you say you don't hunt?
I can understand why others would be confused at the justification of some threads........

For the record I do hunt. I go ratting with the terrier. Here's the link to my terrier in action:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=66297738&highlight=tintin#post66297738